Khamenei calls on Muslims to reconsider Saudi holy sites management

[Anubis]

not my cup of tea.. but.. does the Saudi King / Royal Family have the authority to decide who is allowed or not allowed into the holy mosques?

They have the authority to decide who is allowed or not allowed in their country...so effectively yes.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

What I know is Dajal will be in Syria .... by the way I am not that much into these prophecies to make my life base on them ...

And 70k Jews in Isfiahn doesn't mean there will be no Muslim there , actually Shia not only believe in Mahdi but also considers him as Imam whom is alive right now and due to prophet wordings Shia has always waited for his arrival ....

As I said, take this as warning or let your misplaced nationalism take precedent over everything. Fate of Iran is unfortunately wont be any different then the rest of middle east. Its a school boy understanding of Islamic prophecies when people try to literally take their meanings, like Dajjal will be flying on a donkey with long ears.

 

[Mentee]

Sunni arabs count shias ( especially Iranians ) as infidels !!!

Ah ... saudi angels !!!

Nobody dares to attack iran ... because we can smoke all the oil fields in the region

Not only oil fields ...Power plants/factories/.../All of the infrastructures !

Reserve some for U.P

 

[Mentee]

Charity begins at home, why don't you Iranians show us what do you mean by letting the Muslim world manage Shia pilgrimage sires first? Why don't you first do what you preach? or shut the **** up and not create new issues in the already "fucked up by your kind" world

How dare some odd million Arabs label em Sunni? They are no authority on Islam, why don't they settle their scores with Iran instead of taking refuge behind a sunni label , which is purely an ajmi attribute? Even after what those Bedouins have done with JanatulBaqih you are demanding custody of Shia managed Holy Sites? they are not shia or Sunni sites to begin with , They belong to all Muslims across the globe, but your blind hatred and association with a certain sect is not letting you see the truth and why should only sons of Saud be controlling the haj operations, I suggest they cancel all their dream jets Ferraris and tours to certain red areas of Europe and America this year and allocate the haj revenue to supply clean water to Somalian citizens, lets finish their water related miseries once and for all---

 

[Jaanbaz]

The wahabis have a strong grip on the holy sites. The people who put them there are happy to use the holy sites as leverage against rest of the Muslim world.

 

[raptor22]

As I said, take this as warning or let your misplaced nationalism take precedent over everything. Fate of Iran is unfortunately wont be any different then the rest of middle east. Its a school boy understanding of Islamic prophecies when people try to literally take their meanings, like Dajjal will be flying on a donkey with long ears.

if any arrival is about to happen then it would change fate of all nations ...including Iran and the entire planet .... and I don't know where I talked about nationality what I say is clear you don't need these prophecies which undoubtedly have many interpretations you just need to act as a true Muslim .

 

[haviZsultan]

Though I am against Wahabism and have a sympathetic slant towards Iran I do think Khomenei should not fuel the fire. I have been to umrah and I can safely say that there is nothing Saudi can do for protection of pilgrims. There are literary thousands upon thousands of people there every day and I don't think anyone can do any better.

Furthermore from a nationalist Pakistanis perspective his reference to parsis/Zoroastrians in Iran is offensive to the said religion and would be as offensive if a Pakistani said it for Pakistani parsis or a Saudi said it for Saudi parsis though the message by the grand mufti declaring shias kaffir is pure tafreek and hatred spreading. It is spreading hatred against parsis in Iran and is an arrogant statement against a religious minority that should simply not be made.

In my eyes no one of the two countries-neither Iran nor Saudi are doing anything good for the muslim ummah.

 

[Sliver]

They have the authority to decide who is allowed or not allowed in their country...so effectively yes.

isnt that kind of bad for other muslims? IN the sense - the two Mosques belong to all Muslims and not just KSA. see the case of Iran now. The people denying them their religious right is KSA even though KSA should technically have no such authority on the mosques?

 

[Anubis]

isnt that kind of bad for other muslims? IN the sense - the two Mosques belong to all Muslims and not just KSA. see the case of Iran now. The people denying them their religious right is KSA even though KSA should technically have no such authority on the mosques?

At the end of the day its all business...even if the Saudis became the bastion of Democracy and freedom for the entire world...I doubt they would give up control and walk away from billions of dollars of revenue.

 

[Al-Andalus]

Why is this Iranian wannabe Arab Mullah terrorist barking?

Makkah and Madinah are not only sovereign ancient Arab cities (some of the oldest in the world) but also sovereign Saudi Arabian cities. They have nothing to do with Iran, never had and never will. The fact that our ancestors conquered them and made them Muslim does not give them authority over our indigenous lands. If that is the case we Arabs can claim lands that only the short-lived Mongol Empire and British Empire can rival. Including all of Iran.

Arab dynasties originating from modern-day KSA, more specifically Hijaz, have controlled Makkah and Madinah directly and formally for over 1000 years in the past 1400 years of Islamic history. Even during the 400 year old Ottoman authority the de facto local rulers were the Sharif of Makkah and Madinah.

However what has never changed is the fact that local Hijazis have inhabited Hijaz continuously for 1400 years and that remains the case despite the fact that the current ruling dynasty of modern-day KSA derives from Najd which is 1 out of many historical regions of Arabia. Thus no strangers or foreigners are ruling this part of KSA but local Arabs.

If people do not like those historical and current facts they can cry themselves to sleep. Nothing will change.

We have been bestowed by Allah (swt) to care and protect Makkah and Madinah and this bond will never end.

If somebody (foreigners) want to chase us away from our ancient native lands they are welcome to try.

End of discussion.

 

[ای ایران]

We have been bestowed by Allah (swt) to care and protect Makkah and Madinah and this bond will never end.

What, you're protecting them from Monaco?

On another topic you said:

An Arab religion has been worshipped by Farsis for the past 1400 years indeed.

But in this one you're talking about God? LOL

Which is it you flip-flopping insane clown of a fabricated nationality? An Arab religion, or God's?

 

[Malik Alashter]

Why is this Iranian wannabe Arab Mullah terrorist barking?

Makkah and Madinah are not only sovereign ancient Arab cities (some of the oldest in the world) but also sovereign Saudi Arabian cities. They have nothing to do with Iran, never had and never will. The fact that our ancestors conquered them and made them Muslim does not give them authority over our indigenous lands. If that is the case we Arabs can claim lands that only the short-lived Mongol Empire and British Empire can rival. Including all of Iran.

Arab dynasties originating from modern-day KSA, more specifically Hijaz, have controlled Makkah and Madinah directly and formally for over 1000 years in the past 1400 years of Islamic history. Even during the 400 year old Ottoman authority the de facto local rulers were the Sharif of Makkah and Madinah.

However what has never changed is the fact that local Hijazis have inhabited Hijaz continuously for 1400 years and that remains the case despite the fact that the current ruling dynasty of modern-day KSA derives from Najd which is 1 out of many historical regions of Arabia. Thus no strangers or foreigners are ruling this part of KSA but local Arabs.

If people do not like those historical and current facts they can cry themselves to sleep. Nothing will change.

We have been bestowed by Allah (swt) to care and protect Makkah and Madinah and this bond will never end.

If somebody (foreigners) want to chase us away from our ancient native lands they are welcome to try.

End of discussion.

Mr, Arab without America and UK your lot in Ryadh now kissing the ars of the rawafid in Tehran as it used to be.

 

[Al-Andalus]

Mr, Arab without America and UK your lot in Ryadh now kissing the ars of the rawafid in Tehran as it used to be.

Mr. Fellow Arab who for inexplicable reasons wants to act like an obedient dog in front of Farsis of all people (an insult to your ancestors and all logic), when has such a thing ever occurred? The answer is never. However let us not discuss the reality the other way around. The entire world is familiar with that reality.

As for my initial post, you are of course unable to counter it in any way, (nobody is) so I can only say one thing. Truth and ground realities hurt.

Anyway I hope that KSA did not make you cry anymore than usual Malik when KSA defeated Iraq 1-2 recently. That must have been a painful defeat but I guess that your likes are used to painful defeats and general misery. You have even incorporated such features into your sect using our ancestors as hostage by perverting their legacy.

 

[Malik Alashter]

Mr. Fellow Arab who for inexplicable reasons wants to act like an obedient dog in front of Farsis of all people (an insult to your ancestors and all logic), when has such a thing ever occurred? The answer is never. However let us not discuss the reality the other way around. The entire world is familiar with that reality.

As for my initial post, you are of course unable to counter it in any way, (nobody is) so I can only say one thing. Truth and ground realities hurt.

Anyway I hope that KSA did not make you cry anymore than usual Malik when KSA defeated Iraq 1-2 recently. That must have been a painful defeat but I guess that your likes are used to painful defeats and general misery. You have even incorporated such features into your sect using our ancestors as hostage by perverting their legacy.

 

[Malik Alashter]

How old are you? 12?

Basically are you dumb or that big a Shroogi? It is normal courtesy for diplomats to bow in front of royalty. You will find the exact same clips during visits of Saudi Arabian kings to Iran. In fact you don't even have to mention official visits to Iran but the conduct of Iranian diplomats whenever in KSA.

he is kissing the rafidi hand you ignorant!.