Khamenei calls on Muslims to reconsider Saudi holy sites management

[Al-Andalus]

he is kissing the rafidi hand you ignorant!.

That diplomat did not kiss his hand you moron. He shook his hand and bowed.

Exactly how countless of Iranian diplomats behaved whenever the Saudi Arabian kings (or other royalty) visited Iran during the era of Shah. This is called courtesy. Practiced everywhere in the world. Do you even know such a word?

 

[Rukarl]

That diplomat did not kiss his hand you moron. He shook his hand and bowed.

Exactly how countless of Iranian diplomats behaved whenever the Saudi Arabian kings (or other royalty) visited Iran during the era of Shah. This is called courtesy. Practiced everywhere in the world. Do you even know such a word?

What are you blabbing about camel jockey? That is Obama, show us a single Iranian bowing down to that lizard muncher.

This guy with his 900th fake account is back. @al hasani, @Arabian Stallion and the bazillion other fake accounts he's made.

 

[Al-Andalus]

What are you blabbing about camel jockey? That is Obama, show us a single Iranian bowing down to that lizard muncher.

Iranian donkey rider. That was an example of how even head of states (most powerful country on the planet) act in front of royalty. It's called courtesy. One Saudi Arabian diplomat bowing in front of "royalty" (actually your late Shah was the son of an peasant turned officer turned Shah) is supposed to mean what exactly cow brain eater?

So Iranian diplomats did not bow in front of royalty during the era of the Shah? Go fool an illiterate villager somewhere along the Iran-Afghanistan border.

The late Shah standing obediently while King Faisal is seated.

That must mean 1 million things.

Says the multiple banned user @The Last of us and the other user that you got banned with.

 

[Rukarl]

Iranian donkey rider. That was an example of how even head of states (most powerful country on the planet) act in front of royalty.

And yet not once has an Iranian ever bowed to this lizard muncher.

[It's called courtesy. One Saudi Arabian diplomat bowing in front of royalty is supposed to mean what exactly cow brain eater?

Last I checked eating brains was also big in your desert kingdom:

So Iranian diplomats did not bow in front of royalty during the era of the Shah? Go fool an illiterate villager somewhere along the Iran-Afghanistan border.

Iranians never bowed to these camel urine drinkers unlike your leaders which bowed to our leader. I am still waiting for evidence showing our leaders bowing.

 

[vizier]

It is ironically sad to see some of us believing in dogmatic interpretations locking our minds and some of us searching for solutions outside like coming of a savior which may or may not happen but Islam is about how to save ourselves first. Instead of waiting something from outside we need to look and polish our insides first as there is infinite potential to develop ourselves by Islam and obtain more power,will,knowledge, seeing and understanding capability which we desperately need today facing tough challanges and lies against us rather than labeling each other. Not thinking about the meaning behind but staying at labels like sects is why it is so easy today to fool provoke and make muslims shoot their own foot and lock their potentials from achieving better results.
Just starting from today when you face a challange direct to Allah put some hard work-resistance and like a light bulb watch the Light.

 

[Rukarl]

The late Shah standing obediently while King Faisal is seated.

That must mean 1 million things.

Says the multiple banned user .

That pic show nothing,this is what matters:
[IMG]http://www.yahosein.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=14186[/IMG]

Bowing to us like slaves.

 

[Al-Andalus]

1 unknown diplomat is not a leader you illiterate Farsi donkey.

You bowed in front of us for centuries when we conquered your impoverished country and changed it forever on almost every imaginable front. Be it religion, language, alphabet, culture, demographic makeup etc. There is a very big chance that you have Arab ancestry.

The permanently banned @The Last of us and @Faravahar has now turned up again. It's the same retard who thinks that his impoverished hellhole is some short of superpower.

First achieve an bigger economy than small UAE and Qatar combined before you bark. You will always remain a tiny irrelevant shithole compared to the Arab world on all fronts.

Also tell your fake wannabe Arab Khomenei to stick to pedophilia, a favorite pastime of your Mullahs. If not that then prostitution which you are famed for in the GCC or selling carpets.

 

[Rukarl]

Says the multiple banned user @The Last of us and the other user that you got banned with.

I've already reported you to mods for multiple fake accounts. This is my only account in this forum and mods can go and check, your blabber won't change anything.

1 unknown diplomat is not a leader you illiterate Farsi donkey.

Bowing down to us is what matters, and he did like a slave.

You bowed in front of us for centuries when we conquered your impoverished country and changed it forever on almost every imaginable front. Be it religion, language, alphabet, culture etc.

Iranian have always treated your kind as slaves. You language and alphabet were basically created by Iranians and what culture? camel urine drinking? lizard worship?

The permanently banned @The Last of us and @Faravahar has now turned up again.

My one and only account. Mods can check it. Not everyone has a mental disorder that they need to create a new fake account every week or so.

It's the same retard who thinks that his impoverished hellhole is some short of superpower.

Compared to your almost bankrupted desert kingdom whom is getting slaughtered barefoot Houthis in its own territories, Iran is indeed a superpower:

Saudi Arabia could be bankrupt within five years, IMF predicts

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-within-five-years-imf-predicts-a6706821.html

Without US, your British created state would not last 2 weeks.

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Also tell your fake wannabe Arab Khomenei to stick to pedophilia,s.

Paedophilia and raping own daughters etc is much more mainstream in your desert:

Saudi celebrity cleric who raped and murdered his daughter, five, claimed he injured her because he doubted she was a virgin
By JILL REILLY

PUBLISHED: 11:57, 12 February 2013 | UPDATED: 07:38, 13 February 2013

A Saudi celebrity cleric who allegedly raped and murdered his five-year-old daughter has claimed he injured her because he doubted she was a virgin.

Lama al-Ghamdi died in October having suffered multiple injuries including a crushed skull, severe burns, broken ribs and fractured left arm as well as extensive bruising.

Fayhan al-Ghamdi admitted using a cane and cables to inflict the horrific injuries after doubting his daughter’s virginity, according to the campaign group Women to Drive.

After the case attracted international attention, members of the Saudi Arabia's Royal Family are now believed to have blocked al-Ghamdi's release and ensured that a stronger sentence is upheld.

Killed: Lama al-Ghamdi died in October having suffered multiple injuries including a crushed skull, broken ribs and left arm as well as extensive bruising.





Women to Drive said the preacher, a regular guest on Muslim television networks, had his daughter checked up by a medic after doubting her virginity.


It has been alleged that she was repeatedly raped and had been burned to cover up the injuries she had sustained from the horrific sexual abuse.

Yesterday Sayeda Hamadari, the girl’s mother, who is divorced from the cleric, said she wanted her ex-husband to be put to death, reported The Times.

'I want him killed. I want the full Islamic punishment. This is God’s law,' she said yesterday.

Claims: It has been alleged that she had also been repeatedly raped and that the injuries she sustained from the sexual abuse had been burned

'I am in constant pain when I think of what he did to my daughter. I cannot bear to think of it. I have been reading the Koran to seek some comfort. Only God knows what I am going through.'

She is divorced from al-Ghamdi who remarried and has two more children, and claims the torture happened whilst Lama was in her father’s care in March last year.

It was previously reported that Fayhan al-Ghamdi had been released after paying ‘blood money’ to Lama’s mother.

Albawaba News reported the judge as saying: 'Blood money and the time the defendant had served in prison since Lama's death suffices as punishment.'

But the Saudi Justice Ministry responded saying that the cleric was still in prison and that the case was continuing.

The death penalty is thought to be unlikely in this case.

Lama’s stepmother is appearing as a witness to the murder at another hearing tomorrow according to Ms Hamadari.

Torture: Saudi preacher Fayhan al-Ghamdi admitting beating his daughter with a cable and is said to have been concerned about his five-year-old daughter's virginity

‘My dear child is dead, and all I want now is justice so I can close my eyes and know she didn't die in vain,’ Sayeda Hamadari told CNN, adding that her daughter was ‘brutally tortured in the most shocking ways.’

‘The state needs to even consider taking his two children from him and his wife away because I fear for their lives,’ she added.

'These are not some unfounded accusations, but everything is based on the medical examination by the hospital and the team of physicians who treated Lama when she was first admitted.'

Randa al-Kaleeb, a social worker from the hospital where Lama was admitted, said the girl's back was broken and that she had been repeatedly raped and her injuries burned.



Activists say under Islamic laws a father cannot be executed for murdering his children.

Husbands can also not be executed for murdering their wives, the group say.

Three Saudi activists, including Manal al-Sharif, who started the women's right to drive campaign, have raised objections to the case as it highlights the urgent need for legislation to protect women and children from domestic abuse.

Manal al-Sharif has launched a campaign on Twitter using the hashtag 'Ana Lama', which is translated as I am Lama, calling for an improvement on the judicial treatment of women and children.

Local reports say public anger in Saudi Arabia is also growing and authorities have said they will create a 24-hour hotline to take calls about child abuse.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-daughter-claimed-injured-doubted-virgin.html

 

[Al-Andalus]

@Rukarl = @The Last of us = @Faravahar

I know that the Arab Muslim conquest of your tiny impoverished hellhole has left a collective depression in your national psyche but for the past 1400 years most of your citizens have been bowing towards Makkah daily. You think some Saudi Arabian diplomat bowing to a son of peasant, turned officer turned Shah will change even 1 drop in a ocean of the humility that you have felt and fell towards Arabs and have done so for the past 1400 years? Especially not when numerous Iranian diplomats bowed in front of Saudi Arabian kings when they visited Iran.

Expect that barefooted and 1000 times lesser armed DRUG smugglers (lol) are killing hundreds of your border guards inside Iranian territory on a yearly basis. I think that 3000 alone have lost their lives along the Iranian-Pakistani border.

In fact your Kurdish citizens have killed 1000s upon 1000s of Iranians since 1979. Let alone your other compatriots MKO or the Iraqis who killed almost 1 million of you.

You are comparing apples with oranges but nothing else can be expected.

Don't forget that your ancestors were sold in slave markets like cattle for centuries by Arabs, previously Greeks, Mongols, Turks etc. Less than 100 years ago the actions of the British starved millions of your citizens. Don't bark to much Reza Mohammedi and prepare yourself for more chemical waste thrown at you as at rodents. You are obviously an offspring of such a case.

As for Saudi Arabian casualties in Yemen. They do not exceed 350 casualties. More Iranian child soldiers with keys to heaven died during single trench battles against Iraq when they ran against tanks.

I don't have to say anything more.

@Decisive Storm @alarabi

 

[Rukarl]

@Rukarl = @The Last of us = @Faravahar
I know that the Arab Muslim conquest of your tiny impoverished hellhole has left a collective depression in your national psyche but for the past 1400 years most of your citizens have been bowing towards Makkah daily. You think some Saudi Arabian diplomat bowing to a son of peasant, turned officer turned Shah will change even 1 drop in a ocean of the humility that you have felt and fell towards Arabs and have done so for the past 1400 years? Especially not when numerous Iranian diplomats bowed in front of Saudi Arabian kings when they visited Iran.

It seems you're burning over seeing your lizard munchers bowing to Iranians:

There is no such thing as "arabs", it's a fake identity nowadays linking different between whom simply share a language, one greatly influenced and developed by Persians.

Expect that barefooted and 1000 times lesser armed DRUG smugglers (lol) are killing hundreds of your border guards inside Iranian territory on a yearly basis. I think that 3000 alone have lost their lives along the Iranian-Pakistani border since 1979.
In fact your Kurdish citizens have killed 1000s upon 1000s of Iranians since 1979. Let alone your other compatriots MKO or the Iraqis who killed almost 1 million of you.

You are comparing apples with oranges but nothing else can be expected.

Yes, Iranians are running away and getting slaughtered in their own territory Who dares to even fire a bullet towards Iran? All whom have made a move have been crushed and disappeared in history.

Your southern province is basically under attack and control of houthis:

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/y...rritory-inside-saudi-arabia-report-1765737816

You can't fight a war by running away:

I am sure these guys would have won gold in 100 and 200 meter running in the Olympics. Too bad they were too busy to participate...busy running from Houthis.

Thousands of these al saud rodents have been sent to hell by bunch of bare foot Houthis in just last 1 and half years.

Only things cowards can do in return is target schools and Hospitals:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ir-strike-yemen-hospital-kills-at-least-seven

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...039cf2-617c-11e6-84c1-6d27287896b5_story.html

 

[The SC]

not my cup of tea.. but.. does the Saudi King / Royal Family have the authority to decide who is allowed or not allowed into the holy mosques?

Yes in a way, since they are the custodians, but the matter here(from the OParticle) is that Iran wants to have a right to protests and demonstrations during Hadj, a demand that is more political than religious, while Hadj as it is is a purely religious matter.
But then for Iranians to be called non-muslims is a bit farfetched..

 

[HAIDER]

At the end of the day its all business...even if the Saudis became the bastion of Democracy and freedom for the entire world...I doubt they would give up control and walk away from billions of dollars of revenue.

Its all money mony....

 

[Thorough Pro]

Neither I am a religious zealot nor associate myself with any sect, I follow the same sect that "Muhammad (peace be upon him) followed. It's not the Saudi's, but Iranians who are making these ludicrous demands of handing over control of their territory to other countries. No Saudi has ever claimed or tagged any of the religious sites as "Sunni" sites. No Saudi government has ever denied Haj/Umra visa to any Iranian or Ahl-e-tashee.

my point is just like the holy sites in KSA, there are multiple sites in Iran and Iraq which are considered (religiously) holy sityes by ahl-e-tashee who happen to live in almost as many countries as Sunni's live, so when Iran is proposing something to KSA, why doesn't it implement it first on the sites that are in iran and give their control to OIC or whatever?

Why don't they set the example first and then ask the same from others? Why do they keep creating issues all the time and widen the divide between muslim countries?

How dare some odd million Arabs label em Sunni? They are no authority on Islam, why don't they settle their scores with Iran instead of taking refuge behind a sunni label , which is purely an ajmi attribute? Even after what those Bedouins have done with JanatulBaqih you are demanding custody of Shia managed Holy Sites? they are not shia or Sunni sites to begin with , They belong to all Muslims across the globe, but your blind hatred and association with a certain sect is not letting you see the truth and why should only sons of Saud be controlling the haj operations, I suggest they cancel all their dream jets Ferraris and tours to certain red areas of Europe and America this year and allocate the haj revenue to supply clean water to Somalian citizens, lets finish their water related miseries once and for all---

 

[alarabi]

What are you blabbing about camel jockey? That is Obama, show us a single Iranian bowing down to that lizard muncher.

This guy with his 900th fake account is back. @al hasani, @Arabian Stallion and the bazillion other fake accounts he's made.

This little safavid has lost his sanity by defending those Ayatollah terrorists while he is an Iranian dual citizen and will end up in jail once he visits Iran cuz these safavids who rule Iran don't see him Farsi enough to visit his country again.
Can't understand why those still lick the boots of Ayatollah.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Saudi's never deny access to anyone to these holy sites, but they do have a big responsibility to ensure safety and well being of millions of worshippers present on the two sites any given day and thus they have to have administrative control and full authority to filter out all such element s which are known to cause or may cause problems and threat to safety and security of millions of worshippers. and in my opinion, KSA is doing a hell of job in maintaining those sites. I salute them for carrying out this huge responsibility in the best possible manner.

isnt that kind of bad for other muslims? IN the sense - the two Mosques belong to all Muslims and not just KSA. see the case of Iran now. The people denying them their religious right is KSA even though KSA should technically have no such authority on the mosques?