Kautilya’s Arthashastra and Pakistan

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We are ready to reunite South Asia when we become a demographic majority. Islamic Republic of Akhand Bharat is all we want.

 

[Bornubus]

a weakened pakistan is more to indias interest than a indian occupied pakistan or a pakistan in 5 pieces.

simply put: if pakistan is occupied by india today. then nations such as afganistan and iran instantly will become an enemy to india as neighbours dont often like each other. and lets face it you really dont want afgans as your neighbours nor do you want to send soldiers in there.

secondly. if pakistan breaks into 5 pieces. you got yourself a wekened state. however the terrorists (ie taliban, ttp) in each state will be able to rise to power much more easily as there wont be pak federal forces to stop them. once again once you remove the pak state out of the picture. the enemy instantly become india. and if i am correct the anti indian sentiment is/will be quite high in the pakistani states. therefore firstly i dont know how long they will stay disunited. and secondly in the face of indian influence and a much bigger india they migh just all work togather. todays India favoured ttp might just become indias worst enemy. Even if the 5 states dont unite they may cause enough chaos that will hurt india. and obviously the afgans will back such a proxy war against india.


no what suits india the best is a united pakistan that is inferior to it in terms of economy, military and foreign influence. cause enough mayhem in pak to keep/lower foreign investments there. Bleed the economy. not so much that the country breaks. enough so that there isnt significant improvement . Stop pakistans influence abroad by defaming her to the international community. make foreign investors think 3 times before investing in pakistan.

what can pakistan do ?

simple : Kick TTP/ talibans ***. DMZ the border with afganistan. if necessary DMZ the border with tribal areas. rehabilitate those who give up their terrorist ways. and make good relationship with iran and afganistan. Actually it is also against irans and afgan interest for a breakup of pakistan. simply because they know if pakistan falls they are next.

Why would India even think of occupying Pak ---- India already control resource Rich Kashmir valley so i don't think ---- Indian State has any territorial Ambition in Pak

 

[Kompromat]

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We did it before, we'll do it again, only a Muslim ruled South Asia can become a true Super Power, just like the Mughal empire.

 

[Bornubus]

and no muslim in India is mad except few to even think of any such things and most even do not care, they are happy.

I know but i mentioned that regardless ---- his Hypothetical Claim..!

 

[SarthakGanguly]

We did it before, we'll do it again, only a Muslim ruled South Asia can become a true Super Power, just like the Mughal empire.

So powerful that a local insurgency grew to rule the nation in its entirety and made the Mughals their vassal.

 

[Georgeclark]

We did it before, we'll do it again, only a Muslim ruled South Asia can become a true Super Power, just like the Mughal empire.

ISIS - Thinks the same......... (We will raise the Black flag on white house)

 

[Kompromat]

1.Muslims are 14.2% in India --- with their Growth rate declining By 2030 There will be 230 milion Muslims in India don't know about Pak or BD (Pew Research)

2.This is not medieval age --- we live in Nation states which possess Nuclear Weapons

USSR too had thousands of nukes so how did we carve a dozen Muslim states out of it, that too without Kautilya's doctrine?

 

[Jobless Jack]

Why would India even think of occupying Pak ---- India already control resource Rich Kashmir valley so i don't think ---- Indian State has any territorial Ambition in Pak

I didnt say that india wants to occupy pakistan.

i was just being on topic. To be honest tha mauryans knew the knowledge of chanakyas tactics. but they still fell in 187 years of empire. starting to weaken after ashoka. what i am getting at is dont think india is invincible following chanakya. every plan has a flaw.

 

[Bornubus]

So powerful that a local insurgency grew to rule the nation in its entirely and made the Mughals their vassal.

I thought Mughals were pensioners ---- not Vassals as vassal enjoys honourable status

thank you

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I thought Mughals were pensioners ---- not Vassals as vassal enjoys honourable status

thank you

No. Mughals were vassals of the Marathas before being beaten by the British in 1758-59. Then Shah Alam II became a pensioner of the British.

USSR too had thousands of nukes so how did we carve a dozen Muslim states out of it, that too without Kautilya's doctrine?

You are talking about a cake called USSR or the nation state by the same name?

 

[Kompromat]

ISIS - Thinks the same......... (We will raise the Black flag on white house)

ISIS is non issue here.

* Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Maldives are Muslim states carved out of Bharat Mata, that's on top of 250-300 million Muslims still left in India as a 'strategic deposit. We made sure Bharat Mata was impragnated with hundreds of millions of Muslims which are now almost 15% of its population.

* Almost a dozen Muslim states were carved out of 'Mother Russia' in last 25 years.

and they say Kautilya was the genius

 

[SarthakGanguly]

We made sure Bharat Mata was impragnated with hundreds of millions of Muslims which are now almost 15% of its population

Beautiful language. Who are we to say anything when there are those of you who shower such nice words on those who belong to the 'Ummah'.

 

[Bornubus]

USSR too had thousands of nukes so how did we carve a dozen Muslim states out of it, that too without Kautilya's doctrine?

USSR wasn't devided on Relegious lines or Due to demography and under USSR Christians/Atheists weren't under as a cohesive unit ----- they were devided in terms of Nationality like Armenians,Georgians etc

secondly those Muslim states wasn't claimed by any powerful authority or they will see the same fate as Chechens or you can say Kashmiris

 

[Georgeclark]

ISIS is non issue here.

* Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Maldives are Muslim states carved out of Bharat Mata, that's on top of 250-300 million Muslims still left in India as a 'strategic deposit. We made sure Bharat Mata was impragnated with hundreds of millions of Muslims which are now almost 15% of its population.

* Almost a dozen Muslim states were carved out of 'Mother Russia' in last 25 years.

and they say Kautilya was the genius

They were carved out before 1947, as till that there wasn't much of this nations thing all over the world, anyhting after 1947 ?? No, and it cannot and won't happen. Nor anyone is even interested in doing so, as nobody gets anything out of it. The reason USSR was decided, the reason isn't religion. its just that every state wanted a different being, one power cannot handle so many regions. hope ow you get it

 

[Jobless Jack]

So powerful that a local insurgency grew to rule the nation in its entirely and made the Mughals their vassal.

that happened after nearly 250 years of mughal rule after delhi was sacked by nader shah. . exactly how long did the marathas rule all of india ( nearly all ) before their british daddy kicked their sissy *** ?