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Kashmiris concerned by plans for Hindu satellite cities

Than you should not repent now. Nothing is permanent. Article 370 has done nothing good for Kashmiris and only helped them to isolate and poor. It is the time to rethink now. Our government is doing that only.

I ask this out of mere curiousity.

In what way has Article 370 impoverished Kashmiris?
In what way can the government re-think a treaty with set methods of abrogating it already prescribed and laid down?

Article 370 has done nothing good for Kashmiris and only helped them to isolate and poor. It is the time to rethink now.

Is there anything to back this statement other than personal opinions?
 
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Than you should not repent now. Nothing is permanent. Article 370 has done nothing good for Kashmiris and only helped them to isolate and poor. It is the time to rethink now. Our government is doing that only.

did you read what I have written in this thread?

Don't think so.

Article 370 is in Indian constitution. You guys deal with the way you like.

Abrogate it and risk the wrath of one your population centers. See the OP, he has Indian flags. That should tell you something.

Why would you involve a Pakistani board and Pakistani thread in it.

And that too when are roasting in heat and suffering from Roza.

Not fair!

Not fair at all.
 
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Article 370 is in Indian constitution. You guys deal with the way you like.


Ok.


Abrogate it and risk the wrath of one your population centers. See the OP, he has Indian flags. That should tell you something.
Why would you involve a Pakistani board and Pakistani thread in it.
And that too when are roasting in heat and suffering from Roza.
Not fair!
Not fair at all.


Perhaps you only know what you have written.


Happy ROZA and happy Ramadan.
 
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did you read what I have written in this thread?

Don't think so.

Article 370 is in Indian constitution. You guys deal with the way you like.

Abrogate it and risk the wrath of one your population centers.

Why would you involve a Pakistani board and Pakistani thread in it.

And that too when are roasting in heat and suffering from Roza.

Not fair!

Not fair at all.

As you have already pointed out, involving a Pakistani forum and a Pakistani thread in this meaningless controversy has nothing to do with action. That is the way in which several people vindicate themselves: not through a legitimate purpose, such as the exploration of the relations between nations and societies in south Asia, and the possible ways in which to deal together usefully in future, but in expressing their pent-up feelings of bravado and their jingoism. There is no positive intention involved here, only egregious self-expression. Some of us - I am one - engage with these juveniles in order to educate and elevate our own internet equivalent of trailer trash, some others, you might be an example, engage with them in the utterly mistaken belief that you are corresponding with persons with open minds or, as an alternative, a willingness to experiment. Neither is true in the bulk of the cases that we encounter. A studied disdain, and relentless insistence on fact and reason is what is recommended for you. For us, who have chosen to suffer the trauma of educating those who do not wish to be educated, the path is different.
 
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well I do agree with geelani's "organic assimilation" part.
rest of his statements are pure politics (just like laloo n co.)


This gilani has got many Kashmiri youth murdered by provoking them to mess against Police and BSF. This guy need a bullet in his forehead.
 
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This gilani has got many Kashmiri youth murdered by provoking them to mess against Police and BSF. This gut need a bullet in his forehead.
he and his brothers (corrupt politicians in india) deserves that
 
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As you have already pointed out, involving a Pakistani forum and a Pakistani thread in this meaningless controversy has nothing to do with action. That is the way in which several people vindicate themselves: not through a legitimate purpose, such as the exploration of the relations between nations and societies in south Asia, and the possible ways in which to deal together usefully in future, but in expressing their pent-up feelings of bravado and their jingoism. There is no positive intention involved here, only egregious self-expression. Some of us - I am one - engage with these juveniles in order to educate and elevate our own internet equivalent of trailer trash, some others, you might be an example, engage with them in the utterly mistaken belief that you are corresponding with persons with open minds or, as an alternative, a willingness to experiment. Neither is true in the bulk of the cases that we encounter. A studied disdain, and relentless insistence on fact and reason is what is recommended for you. For us, who have chosen to suffer the trauma of educating those who do not wish to be educated, the path is different.

:yahoo::omghaha:
 
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As you have already pointed out, involving a Pakistani forum and a Pakistani thread in this meaningless controversy has nothing to do with action. That is the way in which several people vindicate themselves: not through a legitimate purpose, such as the exploration of the relations between nations and societies in south Asia, and the possible ways in which to deal together usefully in future, but in expressing their pent-up feelings of bravado and their jingoism. There is no positive intention involved here, only egregious self-expression. Some of us - I am one - engage with these juveniles in order to educate and elevate our own internet equivalent of trailer trash, some others, you might be an example, engage with them in the utterly mistaken belief that you are corresponding with persons with open minds or, as an alternative, a willingness to experiment. Neither is true in the bulk of the cases that we encounter. A studied disdain, and relentless insistence on fact and reason is what is recommended for you. For us, who have chosen to suffer the trauma of educating those who do not wish to be educated, the path is different.


Well said Sir, aptly put.

Thank you for encouraging words. Same to you.
 
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Than you should not repent now. Nothing is permanent. Article 370 has done nothing good for Kashmiris and only helped them to isolate and poor. It is the time to rethink now. Our government is doing that only.
I believe this is a false notion. Article 370 has methodically been stripped of its vitality as it was stated by Nehru way back in 1963. But this needs detailed explanation and time as well.
 
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I believe this is a false notion. Article 370 has methodically been stripped of its vitality as it was stated by Nehru way back in 1963. But this needs detailed explanation and time as well.


Your statement is very generic and interpreted in more than one way. It is difficult for me to reach to any conclusion.
 
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" It’s true that the constituent Assembly which framed the Jammu & Kashmir Constitution ceased to exist after January 26, 1957, when the State Constitution so framed and adopted was enforced. But it’s also a fact that the State Government amended the Constitution more than 30 times between 1959 and till date, invoking section 167 of the State constitution. Section 167 also says that Jammu & Kashmir Government cannot amend section 3 of the Constitution and recognises the authority of the Indian Parliament to legislate on all matters, except those which deal with the executive and legislative power of the State. Jammu & Kashmir doesn’t have a constituent Assembly. Constituent Assembly is not a permanent institution. It ceases to exist after it frames and adopts the Constitution so framed. And after it ceases to exist, the power to amend the Constitution lies with the Legislature."
"Article 370 is part of the Indian Constitution and the Parliament being the highest legislative body in the country has the power to amend it. Using Article 368, it can amend or repeal any of the provisions of Indian Constitution. Even the President of India can amend or abrogate Article 370. The only condition is that the Union Cabinet has to send a proposal to this effect to him. It is important to note that the President of India can keep Jammu & Kashmir under his direct rule for any number of years by invoking Article 370, as it gives absolute executive powers to the constitutional head. Take for example, the Governor/President rule in the State between January 19, 1990 and October 9, 1996. Jammu & Kashmir was under the President rule for almost seven years without amending the Indian Constitution even once because Article 356 is not applicable to this State. The case of Jammu & Kashmir was not taken to the Parliament even once during this period"

Can this be the way out ?
 
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