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Kashmir will Never be a Part of Pakistan - Sushma Swaraj

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I live in the red zone which you shown in map ..... naxals is almost on edge of cliff ... they are trying hard to show their existence...
 
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We will decide what happens to kashmir

AND We have decided ; Pakistan is NOT getting ANYTHING

Your above decision is already futile. Its not working already. Kashmiris are not listening to yours or any body else's decision. I wonder if for Kashmirs anybody in India actually matters anymore.

Kashmirs future won't be decided by India.. India has lost all avenues of "saying" and "deciding".. no wonder India had to impose curfew hoping things would settle.

But would Indian curfew make Kashmiris decide in the favour of India? Just think some.
 
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Okay, you have time, go on and decide and if you haven't decided already, then sorry to show you that this decision is worthless. Kashmiris do not think through "Sptehen Cohen's" brain.

It Does Not matter what kashmiris want

It ALSO does not matter what Pakistan wants

What Matters is what India wants and India's MILITARY strength

Pakistan's strength is Nothing before India

Land does not get transferred by Ranting on the Internet

You have to fight WARS for it
 
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So half of Indian armed forces is losing its cool to curb protesters in few pockets only? That either means residents of those pockets are super human or entire Indian force is group of straws that these many were needed to control "few pockets".

Just a suggestion, we understand India has a stance on Kashmir.. just keep this stance with boldness instead of stupidity. You know.. your bias is too visible.. just own it. Be brave to admit reality - and dare that you wouldn't let Kashmir go for any reason. Come on, try this tactic, this would make you sound less insane.
We dont have good terrorist and bad terrorist policy all are same to us.
And they are protesting for a terrorists death,throwing stones and killing unarmed J&K police ,and all this instigated by hurriyat who dint any seats last time they contested elections and thats why they boycott election and you guys take their word as ground reality.
 
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People of kashmir won't have a better situation under pakistani government !




Pakistan wants the land to be frank unlimited water resources. their love for the resources not people... why not improving situation in FATA... in short- we never advanced out troops into Kashmir until Pakistan started invading... recently if you noticed, Pak PM announced a militant who died recently as martyr... ironically that militant is from designated terrorist organisation.. I'm not sure why Pakistan took first step, why didn't they waited until Maharaja decision...
 
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It Does Not matter what kashmiris want

It ALSO does not matter what Pakistan wants

What Matters is what India wants and India's MILITARY strength

Pakistan's strength is Nothing before India

Land does not get transferred by Ranting on the Internet

You have to fight WARS for it

Thanks for reaching this point as you re ideologically gone naked when you talk of your military might as your "reason of keeping Kashmir". That is the first victory Kashmiris have got that even ordinary Indians are now talking of military as their reason of keeping Kashmir. Once you lose on ideological front, you lose soul behind your military strength.
 
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It is something you should be asking an Iranian not to an Indian.

Now let me also put the Indian perspective. You agree or not there is a serious sunni - shia conflict. All the drama during the Iranian president's visit to Pakistan tell a lot more than what both either country wants to reveal. There are certain elements in Pakistani establishments especially your army that doesn't want good relations with Iran simply because Iran is a shia country.

As on Yemen war, it was more of a compulsion for Pakistan to avoid its involvement than its wish. Your army was fighting TTP, the relations with Afghanistan were at the lowest and then there is India on the east that is 8 times larger and hostile to Pakistan. Pakistan's resources are stretched to its limit You could not afford to open your western front by explicitly making Iran your enemy. Either side may not agree but relations between Iran and Pakistan are at the lowest. It is hard to believe that just months ago an Iranian president visited Pakistan.

We seriously do not need an Indian sharing his day dreaming when it comes to Pakistan's interest and foreign policy, Pakistan's Army was actually at the forefront when it came to Pakistan not joining the Yemen war or do you think NS and his government can go against the policy decision of the army?, same was the case when our PM and COAS both visited Saudi-Arabia and Iran in order to try to normalize ties, you are really good at blowing steam aren't you, and mind you our defense budget is 7 billion dollars right now, do you think that had we sided with the Arabs they wouldn't have provided us with billions of dollars of military funds as compensation?, we made a mature decision that was in the interest of Pakistan and we expect the same courtesy from Iran, next time you blow steam like Pakistan's Army is anti Iranian then back it up with proof from valid sources other wise you are no better than the countless of Indian trolls that parade this forum, Pakistan's Army is a mature, well discipline organisation that only looks out for Pakistan's interest and survival.
 
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Thanks for reaching this point as you re ideologically gone naked when you talk of your military might as your "reason of keeping Kashmir". That is the first victory Kashmiris have got that even ordinary Indians are now talking of military as their reason of keeping Kashmir. Once you lose on ideological front, you lose soul behind your military strength.

Our IDEOLOGY is very simple

Kashmir is historically HINDU LAND
 
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We dont have good terrorist and bad terrorist policy all are same to us.
And they are protesting for a terrorists death,throwing stones and killing unarmed J&K police ,and all this instigated by hurriyat who dint any seats last time they contested elections and thats why they boycott election and you guys take their word as ground reality.

You don't have to drop yourself to this level of stupidity. :laugh:

Our IDEOLOGY is very simple

Kashmir is historically HINDU LAND

You will dream so many new things now. So many new "histories" will come to your mind - and I don't have objection on that.. you are very welcome to imagine what you want - as none of this matters for the Kashmir. For you, the best place to live would be history and you can chose to live there peacefully.. But unfortunate for you that Kashmirs are not reading same comic books which you do.
 
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Cofee??????? Did you see the funeral of Burhan Wani, if indians are still delusional of the feelings of Kashmiris after tens of thousands of them celebrated a hizbul commander then what can be done

What? 30,000 loonies in a small corner of a valley in one corner of India?

Yeah, that number looks big in one photograph.

Now compare that to the rest of our country.

Oh wait.. I forgot; you're not used to such 'big' numbers.

If only we were not bound by our commitments to reform them, we could have done what Russian military did in Dagestan state in Russia. Cleaned off all the dirt in just days.

How difficult do you think it was when India was under a state of emergency under Indira?

Maybe a couple of weeks, that's about it.

No one would have known. Like ever known about it including your stooges.

But we didn't.

Because extermination is not the solution... it is only the last resort. Peace is the solution. Realization is the solution. Ensuring that people understand that the path they choose is wrong and harmful is the solution.

Listen; neither of us want this stuff okay?

There are simple people brainwashed by those sitting in the deserts and their cronies, waiting to ruin the youth of an entire state of a country.

Maybe valuing lives is not a part of your culture; but it is here and we resent to have to kill even these wayward 'fighters'.

Life is a gift. Maybe if you could meditate and see, you will see its beauty and what these people have missed.
 
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We seriously do not need an Indian sharing his day dreaming when it comes to Pakistan's interest and foreign policy, Pakistan's Army was actually at the forefront when it came to Pakistan not joining the Yemen war or do you think NS and his government can go against the policy decision of the army?, same was the case when our PM and COAS both visited Saudi-Arabia and Iran in order to try to normalize ties, you are really good at blowing steam aren't you, and mind you our defense budget is 7 billion dollars right now, do you think that had we sided with the Arabs they wouldn't have provided us with billions of dollars of military funds as compensation?, we made a mature decision that was in the interest of Pakistan and we expect the same courtesy from Iran, next time you blow steam like Pakistan's Army is anti Iranian then back it up with proof from valid sources other wise you are no better than the countless of Indian trolls that parade this forum, Pakistan's Army is a mature, well discipline organisation that only looks out for Pakistan's interest and survival.

That is why I said you shouldn't be asking that question to an Indian. What I wrote was the Indian perspective and I am sure majority of Indian share the same view that it was Pakistan's compulsion to avoid Yemen war than any love for Iran. You may disagree.
 
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