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No wonder JKNPP would go to Jammu to celebrate, Jammu is hindu majority while Kashmir is Muslim majority. JKNPP would never dare go to Kashmir Valley for their celebration:

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your statement reminds me of what AZIZI says in Hasb-e-haal.....CHAL DAUD

 

[Omar1984]

indian border security force are worst than animals. how can any human being torture young school children.


who is the terrorist? indian armed forces.

 

[SBD-3]

Good job RR, congratulations, people of Shopian are good for nothing.

whats you point btw??????????????....

 

[Mohammed Irfan]

Troops martyr three more innocent youth in occupied Kashmir
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Srinagar, October 14 (KMS): In occupied Kashmir, Indian troops, in their fresh act of state terrorism, martyred three youth in Shopian district today.

During siege and search operations Indian Army’s 53 Rashtriya Rifles, 44 Rashtriya Rifles and Special Operations Group personnel killed the youth, identified as Shabbir Ahmad, Arif Ahmad and Jan Khan at Chewan in Keller area of the district.

Job Well done.

 

[Hulk]

whats you point btw??????????????....

My point being people of Sophain has never done anything creative.

 

[FreekiN]

Job Well done.

Now I see why we arm them with weaponry.

 

[PakSher]

Now the western media and governments have started to notice Indian atrocities.

 

[DesiGuy]

Troops martyr three more innocent youth in occupied Kashmir
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Srinagar, October 14 (KMS): In occupied Kashmir, Indian troops, in their fresh act of state terrorism, martyred three youth in Shopian district today.

During siege and search operations Indian Army’s 53 Rashtriya Rifles, 44 Rashtriya Rifles and Special Operations Group personnel killed the youth, identified as Shabbir Ahmad, Arif Ahmad and Jan Khan at Chewan in Keller area of the district.

what a reatired source. full of negative news.

 

[Areesh]

My point being people of Sophain has never done anything creative.

Creative like what??? By going your logic you should eliminate half of your nation.

 

[Omar1984]

Indigenous uprising in IHK becoming volatile
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SITUATION in Indian held Kashmir (IHK) is too volatile as indigenous uprising in the valley has started with a new vigour and determination shown by the Kashmiri youth. Consequently, Indian Security Forces have clamped tough conditions of curfew enforcing the suppressive laws to arrest, torture and disgrace the innocent civilians. The all parties (APC) meeting to discuss the proposed revocation of Armed Forces Special Powers Act (AFSPA))- a law that gives unaccountable powers to armed forces in IHK ended without any consensus on the issue. The APC meeting instead decided to send one more delegation comprising members from different political parties to IHK to assess the situation and provide feedback. Obviously the deadlock on AFSPA points towards the real intention of Indian leadership to suppress the uprising in IHK. Duly protected under AFSPA Indian Security Forces commit crimes by coercing the innocent Kashmiris, dishonouring women, torturing and killing children to maintain order in the Valley. International media has not been allowed by Indian censorship to cover these grave human rights violations and they instead cover the so called “talks” between India and Pakistan on Kashmir issue. Economic and political compulsions are understandable; however, USA, UK and EU must realize that Kashmir dispute has wider geopolitical implications having direct impact on their economic and political objectives. If Pakistan has to play a positive role to fight against terrorism then India must be pressurized to resolve Kashmir issue. Kashmiri youth has given new shape to their movement to fight against the Indian occupied forcers.

They pelt stones and get together through a collective passion to tell Indians to leave Kashmir and allow them free space where they can breathe freely. Their efforts are very impressive as they stand together for a collective cause. So far they are without outside help but soon they are likely to get more support as their passion and cause is true. Current situation in Kashmir is one of RAW’s well-thought-out Plan riddled with dubious moves. The Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS)’s marathon session to discuss Jammu and Kashmir issue has reflects New Delhi’s frustration. At the same time, the Kashmiris were dismayed when Indian PM announced that he is not going to pull out a rabbit out of the hat that means genocide will go on unabated, despite 3-months’ long rioting and imposition of curfew that he crippled the life beyond anybody’s guess. Indian occupation forces in Kashmir have failed to suppress the movement for freedom. Indian security forces have used all possible methods and coercive techniques to repress and intimidate Kashmiris but the present uprising shows that the Kashmiri youth is determined with an unwavering resolve to fight for their just cause in order to get their rights of self-determination. The Indian leadership has imposed a ban on the media in Kashmir with an aim to hide their cruel acts of persecution, mass murder and genocide in Kashmir. It is time to express solidarity with the media in IHK and make efforts to force the Indians to lift the ban on media so that the world can see what is actually happening in IHK. The Indian security forces don’t even hesitate to misuse and exploit United Nations symbols and helmets to cheat the people and protestors.

 

[Gabbar]

Really...??? I mean really....? Dailymailnews again?

 

[KS]

That's the stupidest thing i have seen around this forum lately.

TTP militants claim responsibility when they blow up themselves.

The entire world recognize them as international terrorists.

They have been declared as terrorists by the international community and they dont get much bothered by it.

Their presence is RECOGNIZED inside the area bordering Pakistan and Afghanistan by the entire world.

We (and the world in general) are at open war with them, with a very very very clear line to as who is the guud guy and who is not.

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etc
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Strawman & Digressive- nothing related to the question I asked.

Let me ask the question again - When the F-16s of the PAF fires LGB on the mountains,how does it make sure all the people killed are TTP militants .?

Let's see how many could you sum up as regards to HM. But before that i would like you to tell us even if HM do operate against the indian aggressors (expect you quoting some 'dot IN' link). Or may be you are still disillusioned and couldnt differentiate between a kid with stones and a bearded animal in shalwar kameez holding an AK!

Same old "kids having stones" bla bla bla.Hizbul are a terrorist organisation proscribed by India,EU and other countries

Sample :

EU - Terror list

Like i said:

If zombies had Indian passport with their photo on it,legally they are Indian citizens.

Happy.?

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Strawman & Digressive- nothing related to the question I asked.

Let me ask the question again - When the F-16s of the PAF fires LGB on the mountains,how does it make sure all the people killed are TTP militants .?

what a preposterous question.....

Sorry i had to intervene on this 2-way cross-chatter.

I could easily ask you how do you know all the people your country imposes curfew on are Kashmiris "militant outfits" but i wont adopt such an approach

I would go broader and "re-familiarize" yourself with the idea that when you fight a war against an 'idea' (as opposed to a uniformed enemy) there is no single decisive blow. These things take time. They take effort. Casualties will mount - on both sides. Innocents, much to our pain and chagrine, will lose their lives. This is war. Who said war was something desirable? Things seem to have become inflamed for not all the right reasons. We live with that reality, it sucks. But such is the reality afterall!

When PAF does strafe run using LGBs on militant positions, it does so knowing that it is acting on credible mil-intel based on what it exactly sees as that --- credible mil-intel. It may be fashionable for somebody like you to think Pakistan is some crazy country that loves to kill innocents. Unfortunately for you, you are wrong.


damned if we take a strong position on a matter, damned if we dont! This is our country, we don't need external analysis on internal affairs. Secure your own first!

Same old "kids having stones" bla bla bla.Hizbul are a terrorist organisation proscribed by India,EU and other countries

purely a local Kashmiri phenomenon. You want an end to such groups? Then address the issues.


Don't create more. Most importantly (for your own sakes) don't be in denial!

If zombies had Indian passport with their photo on it,legally they are Indian citizens.

Happy.?

Dalai Lama would attest to that

 

[KS]

what a preposterous question.....

Sorry i had to intervene on this 2-way cross-chatter.

I could easily ask you how do you know all the people your country imposes curfew on are Kashmiris "militant outfits" but i wont adopt such an approach

I would go broader and "re-familiarize" yourself with the idea that when you fight a war against an 'idea' (as opposed to a uniformed enemy) there is no single decisive blow. These things take time. They take effort. Casualties will mount - on both sides. Innocents, much to our pain and chagrine, will lose their lives. This is war. Who said war was something desirable? Things seem to have become inflamed for not all the right reasons. We live with that reality, it sucks. But such is the reality afterall!

When PAF does strafe run using LGBs on militant positions, it does so knowing that it is acting on credible mil-intel based on what it exactly sees as that --- credible mil-intel. It may be fashionable for somebody like you to think Pakistan is some crazy country that loves to kill innocents. Unfortunately for you, you are wrong.


damned if we take a strong position on a matter, damned if we dont! This is our country, we don't need external analysis on internal affairs. Secure your own first!

Thank God you had to intervene!!!!

I wanted to say the bolded parts myself.But the same points coming from the fingers of a former think tank looks more credible.

So my answer to the original question of how do IA knows they are Hizbul militants -credible CI intel.

Indian Army and its specialised counter-insurgency wing in Kashmir,the RR have developed an extensive network of electronic and human intel assests in Kashmir and they know who comes where,when do they come and whom they kill.

purely a local Kashmiri phenomenon. You want an end to such groups? Then address the issues.

Doesnt seem a "purely Kashmiri phenomenon" after EU (a consortium of 27 countries) and many other countries have proscribed Hizbul as a terrorist organisation and the founder of that "pure Kashmiri Phenomenon" lives under the patronage of Pakistan.

And yes we are addressing the issues,but in our own way.

Don't create more. Most importantly (for your own sakes) don't be in denial!

We are not in denial.We know issues exist and we also know to solve them.

Anyways thanks for your concern but I guess Pakistan ,right now has far more pressing concerns that 100 rioters in a foreign country getting killed over a period of 4 months.

Dalai Lama would attest to that

His Holiness is our Honoured Guest and will remain so...come what may.

 

[foxbat]

lets meet up and take advantage of that together
I will really like to go and see in person those miserable call centre guys and gals in banglore that get shouted, insulted and swore at day and night by the people in the west.

I will any day take getting shouted at as against getting droned.. If you know what I mean

BTW not very heartning to see 2 think tanks getting together and indulging in off topic rants.

The topic is Kashmir and not call centers of Banglore..