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Gilgit has been in the news all the times, am surprised, why are you guys so excited and surprised.

There is no ongoing turmoil like you guys are having on your side.

You are right. The intensity of trouble is significantly lower in G&B. As a matter of fact its significantly lower than an average Pakistani province. Raises a bit of a doubt on how freely is information coming out of that area.
 
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Srinagar: Top hardline separatist leader arrested: Rediff.com India News

Top hardline Kashmiri leader Mohammed Shafi Reshi along with five others was arrested in Srinagar [ Images ] on Sunday, a day after the police took pro-Pakistan woman separatist leader Asiya Andrabi into custody.

Reshi along with his associates were arrested from Babademb area in the city when they were on their way to finalise the separatist protest calendar.

The Jammu and Kashmir [ Images ] police had arrested Andrabi, leader of the radical all-women group Dukhtaran-e-Millat (Daughters of the Faith), on Saturday. She was picked up from her hideout by a special team along with her 'second-in-command' Fahmeeda.

Andrabi, who has been leading a separatist campaign, had been evading arrest for long.

Reshi was wanted by police for anti-national activities and indulging in separatist violence.

These leaders have been acting in tandem with another separatist leader Masarat Alam, who is said to be behind the stone-pelting campaign in the Valley. Alam is still evading arrest.


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Fat lady's sings louder.
 
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Gilgit has been in the news all the times, am surprised, why are you guys so excited and surprised.
It's not that we get excited or surprised. We are aware of the situation some media blackout had been observed by Pakistans government to restricting the freedom of expression, journalists in Pakistan side of Kashmir frequently face harassment at the hands of the military, the intelligence agencies and the jihadists alike.
 
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Community problem is common in all countries . But to allow other countries 11,000 troops to control the rebel is . . . . . . :toast_sign:


That even in the land which belong to India:angry:


I not going to anger on no other countries but on my country itself for behaving sameless:angry:
 
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Shoot-on-sight order in Gilgit after heavy firing

By Our Correspondent
Thursday, 26 Aug, 2010

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GILGIT: A shoot-on-sight order was issued after two rival groups resorted to heavy aerial firing soon after Iftar near Yadgar Chowk here on Wednesday, police said.

Two people were gunned down in the same area on Tuesday. Sources said that paramilitary troops and police came to the area only after the shootout subsided.

More than 70,000 bullets were fired. Three houses were burnt, but there were no casualties.

Gilgit’s assistant commissioner told Dawn that the situation eased after the administration called in Punjab Rangers and Northern Area scouts.

Police sources said that no arrest had been made nor did they register any case.

Incidents of firing were also reported from Nagaral, Kashrote, Majini Muhallah and some other parts of the region.

Gilgit has seen a spree of target killings over the past four days. Four people were killed in two days.
 
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Why govt. is making them hero? what they will get by arresting them? :hitwall: There are zillions way to handle these type of people.
 
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CM warns of clamping curfew in Gilgit
Friday, August 27, 2010
GILGIT: Chief Minister Gilgit Baltistan Syed Mehdi Shah has warned that curfew could be clamped in Gilgit while calling in Army if it is needed to maintain law and order situation.

Addressing an emergency and crowded press conference here on Thursday, Shah said, “There is no other option but to deal the situation with iron hands to ensure durable peace in the area.”

He said if the situation required sending anybody to Adiyala Jail, the government would also take the same action to save lives and property of the masses. He warned the government would be compelled to review the agreement reached with the former detainees of the Adiyala Jail if not implemented in letter and spirit.

The GB chief minister said some of the police officials are involved in sectarianism in the area and stern action is being taken against them. He said those police officials who have been discharging duties on one place for the past five months would be transferred to other areas.

He said majority of the people in Gilgit are peace loving and only a handful of people are challenging the writ of the government, adding that stern action is being taken against those violating the government’s writ.

The chief minister said that situation in Gilgit could not be improved in just a day, urging all sections of society including, elected representatives, ulema and civil society to come forward and play their due role.

He said the government would compensate those whose houses were set ablaze the other day, adding that the relatives of the victims of the target killing would also be compensated officially. Shah also urged the media to air credible reports, as people and the government faced immense problems due to incredible reports. He also lauded actions of the police officials, who helped people in swift evacuation from their houses.

The chief minister said that seventeen miscreants were arrested by the law enforcement agencies as the action against them was already underway. Meanwhile, talking to INP, President Gilgit Union of Journalists (GUJ) Imtiaz Ali Taj said there is neither security issue or target killing incidents due to sectarian violence in Gilgit nor army has taken the control of the city.

He declined media reports, saying that these reports misguided the countrymen and people of Gilgit Baltistan residing in other cities of country and also abroad. He clarified that clashes were erupted between two groups some days ago when a person was killed while acquiring petrol from a local petrol pump. It wasn’t sectarian clash, he categorically denied. “The killing of four persons was result of differences between the two groups and it had nothing to do with target killing or sectarian violence,” Imtiaz Taj said.
 
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I am eagerly awaiting the blame getting diverted towards the foreign hands of RAW..
 
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Community problem is common in all countries . But to allow other countries 11,000 troops to control the rebel is . . . . . . :toast_sign:


That even in the land which belong to India:angry:


I not going to anger on no other countries but on my country itself for behaving sameless:angry:

Yeah you have every right to be angry but the problem is that First it is not you land and second their aren't 11000 troops their. So why do unnecessary hoohaa over nothing.

:rolleyes:
 
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Atlast government has implanted some spine and working as we wanted them to be..its been long that this a$$holes are eating food from ours and showing loyalty to people across the border..Government should send a strong message to these namak haramis that if they wanted to stay in India then get their act together and live like every other Indian or you will end up in Jail..good going GoI..
 
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I hope not because the things would get normal once again very soon.

I hope it does because there are pending troubles in queue will exploit every chance they get here is more stuff.

Talibanization of the heart

A thought provoking article by Abbas Zaidi

By Abbas Zaidi



In the backdrop of the public lynching and then hanging of brothers Hafiz Mueez Butt and Muneeb Butt in Sialkot on 15 August, a journalist writing in an English language daily asked the following questions about the murderers: (i) Are they human? (ii) Are they Muslim?, and (iii) Are they really Pakistani? (The writers thought they were none.)

These questions are evidence of the lowest depth of misery, hollowness, and dishonesty to which some of Pakistani journalists have taken their profession to. Of course, these murderers are human, Muslim, and Pakistani. The hollowness of the word “really” reminds me of Kurtz’s outburst of “The horror, the horror!” in the Conrad’s Heart of Darkness. Why is so much hype about this lynching in both the media and the judiciary? Is it something came out of the outer space, so we cannot accept it? Don’t we human-Muslim-Pakistanis lynch and destroy unarmed people, even animals, while the entire nation and national institutions react from blatantly cheering on to finding crooked justification for our sins and crimes because “Muslims cannot do it!”, a mantra on the lips of everyone from Zardari, the secular and Gillani, the reconciliator to Nawaz, the Amirul Mominin to Shahbaz, the Servant-in-Chief? Think about the journalists, the Islamists, the retired and quasi-retired bureaucrats and generals, and the list will go on ad infinitum.

To the above three questions, add a highly arrogant claim which we the human-Muslim-Pakistanis make without fail while raising an objectionable eyebrow at non-Muslims: “We the Muslims never disrespect a corpse!”

The Sialkot lynching is a mirror image of another lynching which we have conveniently forgotten. This takes us to 1994 when the Taliban, made and molded in and by Pakistan, invaded the UN-protected enclave in Kabul where they lynched Dr Najibullah and his brother. After lynching them publicly, just like their brethren have done in Sialkot, the Taliban hung the corpses of the two brothers and mutilated them; they even chopped off their private parts. At that time hundreds of people cheered on the Taliban as they disrespected the two corpses just like the hundreds of people did in Sialkot; the only difference being that there were no mobiles phones available at that time. Again, it is our “Pakistani” Taliban who Pakistan Army thinks are “good Taliban” who last year dug up a pir from his grave and hanged, and not just hung, him. You can go a few more years earlier in 1984 when General Zia sent his notorious lashkar led and supervised by no other than Brigadier Musharraf aka General Musharraf, the enlightened, the moderate. This proto-Talibanic lashkar not just burnt alive hundreds of the Shias of Gilgit, it burnt alive the animals too owned by the Shias. Of course, this can be justified because those animals were not human, Muslim, or Pakistani.

The Sialkot lynching is not spontaneous. It is in fact a great tribute paid to General Zia who created the Islamofascist mindset with the help of Arabian money and Pakistani-sectarian manpower. The Zia-sponsored and Islamists-created curriculum taught in Pakistan to this day has created a vision in which Muslims of a certain denomination are the only superior people in the world whose divine mission is to put the entire world on the righteous path by speech or sword depending on how quiescent or stubborn the people target for conversion are. Because Muslims can do no wrong, whatever Muslims do is right. General Zia and his accomplices created an Islam, which was unheard of in Pakistan, and since then that Islam has been creating us the human-Muslim-Pakistanis.

Thus, the very fundamental motivating principle of human-Muslim-Pakistanis is that law has no meaning if it hinders our desires. We also know that the state of Pakistan has morphed into impotence, and accountability and rule of law are nonexistent. From 1977 when General Zia dismissed Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto up to the Sialkot lynching, very few serious crimes have been punished. Crime has become an easy choice because people know that (i) they will never get justice, and (ii) crime is not punished. Unless you are hopeless poor and unconnected, you are above law. Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto is hanged and Benazir assassinated, and their murderers live honorably; lawyers assault journalists, judges, and policemen, but the judiciary takes no action; policemen kill innocent people and drag their dead bodies in the streets like trophies and are decorated with medals of bravery; journalists can demonize people at will and not be held responsible; murderous fatwas are proclaimed publicly and the bloodthirsty mullahs are addressed as ulema; billions are loaned from the banks and never returned and no questions asked. What message do people get?

In January this year, Prime Minister Gillani said on the floor of the parliament that despite the Supreme Court and the parliament, the Army cannot be held accountable for anything. Aren’t we repeatedly told and taught by the media, mullahs, and textbooks that we the human-Muslim-Pakistanis are soldiers of Islam? Haven’t a few top channels been running a vociferous campaign whose theme is “Hum Sab Sipahi!”: We are all soldiers!
 
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The bouts of anti-shia violence is one of the reasons why the mostly shia populace of Kargil is pro-India. That doesn't mean that they love India ofcourse but they feel that out of the two the better option is India. GoI has a long way to go before proper governance and development can be setup in J&K to really integrate it with the country.

Dude one word - *facepalm*
:lol: We have huge swathes of gilgit shias living all over Pakistan and they are at most fiercely patriotic Pakistanis and heavily anti-india (worth mentioning I am shia and have lots of gilgit shia friends :rolleyes:)

Are you jealous that no one in Azad Kashmir or GB shares the sentiments of joining the other side; while people across the border raise Pakistan's flag day in day out :disagree:

True there are sectarian problems; but that isn't confined to Pakistan. Age old conflict seen out of context to inflate the indian ego that the Shias in GB are pro India - Shame on You.
 
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that's when you know the standard hindustany has no retorts, no logical arguments
 
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