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[irfan1173]

AoA
Read carefully. It says aerial fire. that's why no casualty.

 

[Mogambo]

Still 75,000 shells... That looks like a figure someone pulled out of their A$$..

write a letter to editor to pakistani newspaper Dawn who have reported it.

 

[Mogambo]

Not related to Kashmir war.......

Mods please move to suitable section.....

and 75000 is way manipulated figure.

And who manipulated it RAW Mosaad CIA??

And the Dawn news says 70,000 don't add 5000 to it.

 

[Mogambo]

DAWN.COM | Front Page | Shoot-on-sight order in Gilgit after heavy firing


GILGIT: A shoot-on-sight order was issued after two rival groups resorted to heavy aerial firing soon after Iftar near Yadgar Chowk here on Wednesday, police said.

Two people were gunned down in the same area on Tuesday. Sources said that paramilitary troops and police came to the area only after the shootout subsided.

More than 70,000 bullets were fired. Three houses were burnt, but there were no casualties.

Gilgit’s assistant commissioner told Dawn that the situation eased after the administration called in Punjab Rangers and Northern Area scouts.

Police sources said that no arrest had been made nor did they register any case.

Incidents of firing were also reported from Nagaral, Kashrote, Majini Muhallah and some other parts of the region.

Gilgit has seen a spree of target killings over the past four days. Four people were killed in two days.

That means Kashmir under pakistani control is allowing shoot at sight and they people rant when we do the same even in extreme situations. What a hippocrasy

 

[BATMAN]

Its from Dawn, the location is part of Kashmir historical state. And there is a curfew and shoot at sight orders. I think its relevant in this section.

Dude the report is about Gilgit not Kashmir.

Gilgit is war zone any way and i suspect a clash between covert indian gorkha / sikh regiment and locals.

 

[BATMAN]

That means Kashmir under pakistani control is allowing shoot at sight and they people rant when we do the same even in extreme situations. What a hippocrasy

You have been doing it from ages and nothing is credible as long indian stooges are ruling in Pakistan.

 

[mjnaushad]

And who manipulated it RAW Mosaad CIA??

And the Dawn news says 70,000 don't add 5000 to it.

From where CIA, RAW, Mossad came into the topic.....

Please refrain from trolling.....

Because this thread will again end up in some real harsh argument....

I wonder why aren't you banned.....Yesterday you last msg on a thread clearly said "Pakistani bast@rds". Right before the thread got deleted.......Looks like MODS didnt read that....

 

[mjnaushad]

That means Kashmir under pakistani control is allowing shoot at sight and they people rant when we do the same even in extreme situations. What a hippocrasy

People here dont even know difference between "Bullets fired" and "Protest"......

 

[Bhairava]

Great loss for us

Definitely a huge loss for you.

Do you think you can get a separate Kashmir if 1.2 billion Indians think otherwise.?

 

[aligilgiti]

I belong to Gilgit.... when it comes to sectarian clashes .... it;s a full scale battle ..... even RPG's, Anti Air Crafts and mortars are used .... so please don't wonder about 70 thousand bullets .... it's nothing

 

[GentlemanObserver]

I belong to Gilgit.... when it comes to sectarian clashes .... it;s a full scale battle ..... even RPG's, Anti Air Crafts and mortars are used .... so please don't wonder about 70 thousand bullets .... it's nothing

LOL yeah sure!

 

[pak-marine]

it must be sectarian lots of shia and agakhani shia are living in gilgit

 

[sparklingway]

China's Discreet Hold on Pakistan's Northern Borderlands
By SELIG S. HARRISON
Published: August 26, 2010

While the world focuses on the flood-ravaged Indus River valley, a quiet geopolitical crisis is unfolding in the Himalayan borderlands of northern Pakistan, where Islamabad is handing over de facto control of the strategic Gilgit-Baltistan region in the northwest corner of disputed Kashmir to China.

The entire Pakistan occupied western portion of Kashmir stretching from Gilgit in the north to Azad (Free) Kashmir in the south is closed to the world, in contrast to the media access that India permits in the eastern part, where it is combating a Pakistan-backed insurgency. But reports from a variety of foreign intelligence sources, Pakistani journalists and Pakistani human rights workers reveal two important new developments in Gilgit-Baltistan: a simmering rebellion against Pakistani rule and the influx of an estimated 7,000 to 11,000 soldiers of the People’s Liberation Army.

China wants a grip on the region to assure unfettered road and rail access to the Gulf through Pakistan. It takes 16 to 25 days for Chinese oil tankers to reach the Gulf. When high-speed rail and road links through Gilgit and Baltistan are completed, China will be able to transport cargo from Eastern China to the new Chinese-built Pakistani naval bases at Gwadar, Pasni and Ormara, just east of the Gulf, within 48 hours.

Many of the P.L.A. soldiers entering Gilgit-Baltistan are expected to work on the railroad. Some are extending the Karakoram Highway, built to link China’s Sinkiang Province with Pakistan. Others are working on dams, expressways and other projects.

Mystery surrounds the construction of 22 tunnels in secret locations where Pakistanis are barred. Tunnels would be necessary for a projected gas pipeline from Iran to China that would cross the Himalayas through Gilgit. But they could also be used for missile storage sites.

Until recently, the P.L.A. construction crews lived in temporary encampments and went home after completing their assignments. Now they are building big residential enclaves clearly designed for a long-term presence.

What is happening in the region matters to Washington for two reasons. Coupled with its support for the Taliban, Islamabad’s collusion in facilitating China’s access to the Gulf makes clear that Pakistan is not a U.S. “ally.” Equally important, the nascent revolt in the Gilgit-Baltistan region is a reminder that Kashmiri demands for autonomy on both sides of the cease-fire line would have to be addressed in a settlement.

Media attention has exposed the repression of the insurgency in the Indian-ruled Kashmir Valley. But if reporters could get into the Gilgit-Baltistan region and Azad Kashmir, they would find widespread, brutally-suppressed local movements for democratic rights and regional autonomy.

When the British partitioned South Asia in 1947, the maharajah who ruled Kashmir, including Gilgit and Baltistan, acceded to India. This set off intermittent conflict that ended with Indian control of the Kashmir Valley, the establishment of Pakistan-sponsored Free Kashmir in western Kashmir, and Pakistan’s occupation of Gilgit and Baltistan, where Sunni jihadi groups allied with the Pakistan Army have systematically terrorized the local Shiite Muslims.

Gilgit and Baltistan are in effect under military rule. Democratic activists there want a legislature and other institutions without restrictions like the ones imposed on Free Kashmir, where the elected legislature controls only 4 out of 56 subjects covered in the state constitution. The rest are under the jurisdiction of a “Kashmir Council” appointed by the president of Pakistan.

India gives more power to the state government in Srinagar; elections there are widely regarded as fair, and open discussion of demands for autonomy is permitted. But the Pakistan-abetted insurgency in the Kashmir Valley has added to tensions between Indian occupation forces and an assertive population seeking greater of local autonomy.

The United States is uniquely situated to play a moderating role in Kashmir, given its growing economic and military ties with India and Pakistan’s aid dependence on Washington. Such a role should be limited to quiet diplomacy. Washington should press New Delhi to resume autonomy negotiations with Kashmiri separatists. Success would put pressure on Islamabad for comparable concessions in Free Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan. In Pakistan, Washington should focus on getting Islamabad to stop aiding the insurgency in the Kashmir Valley and to give New Delhi a formal commitment that it will not annex Gilgit and Baltistan.

Precisely because the Gilgit-Baltistan region is so important to China, the United States, India and Pakistan should work together to make sure that it is not overwhelmed, like Tibet, by the Chinese behemoth.

Selig S. Harrison is director of the Asia Program at the Center for International Policy and a former South Asia bureau chief of The Washington Post.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/27/opinion/27iht-edharrison.html?_r=1

 

[civfanatic]

Definitely a huge loss for you.

Do you think you can get a separate Kashmir if 1.2 billion Indians think otherwise.?

Strange now 1.2 billion also think ....When did that happen .

 

[RamGorur]

^^ The article is a keeper. Some parts highlighted

The entire Pakistan occupied western portion of Kashmir stretching from Gilgit in the north to Azad (Free) Kashmir in the south is closed to the world, in contrast to the media access that India permits in the eastern part, where it is combating a Pakistan-backed insurgency. But reports from a variety of foreign intelligence sources, Pakistani journalists and Pakistani human rights workers reveal two important new developments in Gilgit-Baltistan: a simmering rebellion against Pakistani rule and the influx of an estimated 7,000 to 11,000 soldiers of the People’s Liberation Army.

Did I hear some balloon pop?

Media attention has exposed the repression of the insurgency in the Indian-ruled Kashmir Valley. But if reporters could get into the Gilgit-Baltistan region and Azad Kashmir, they would find widespread, brutally-suppressed local movements for democratic rights and regional autonomy.

Some more popping balloons.

Gilgit and Baltistan are in effect under military rule. Democratic activists there want a legislature and other institutions without restrictions like the ones imposed on Free Kashmir, where the elected legislature controls only 4 out of 56 subjects covered in the state constitution. The rest are under the jurisdiction of a “Kashmir Council” appointed by the president of Pakistan.

India gives more power to the state government in Srinagar; elections there are widely regarded as fair, and open discussion of demands for autonomy is permitted. But the Pakistan-abetted insurgency in the Kashmir Valley has added to tensions between Indian occupation forces and an assertive population seeking greater of local autonomy.

NOOOOOOO.....he did not just say that? Did he?

I understand that the Chinese angle of the story is a matter of concern, but somehow I just can't stop LoLing.