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[Security]

And for your kind information Riyadh and Tehran both have rejected Wikileaks reports and termed those reports as release not leaks.

 

[Rafi]

Iran's support for the cause of Kashmiri liberation should indeed be lauded.

 

[BATMAN]

^^Please, name a single Pakistani P.M. who was not elected.

 

[Ammyy]

I like the last line

the so called development.

Hope this can help

 

[Rain]

Every country has Dark Sides even the best developed ones too, so nothing to worry about for indian defense estabishment ppl here on ther forum!

 

[ajtr]

forget kashmir even whole pakistan is an integral part of Indian subcontinent and not even single pakistani deny it.

 

[FullMetalJacket]

Seems the Kashmiri people aren't going to be independant any time soon. Picture India and Pakistan like two little brothers, and Kashmiri being a toy.

 

[Fasih Khan]

Seems the Kashmiri people aren't going to be independant any time soon. Picture India and Pakistan like two little brothers, and Kashmiri being a toy.

Indians would be the last I'd call Brothers in the whole Universe. We Got Shame.

 

[Nalwa]

There is no condition in democracy for not choosing military professional as head of state.
Pakistan always had elected P.M. and if you don't know that than i feel sorry for you.

Yeah you can have a PM but then they only last so long as the COAS wants. So it will be illogical to talk about a PM. Why are you restricting your logic to just a PM? Lets talk about heads of state. What were Mushy, Zia and Ayub for years before they held their sham elections? Yes, dictators. Perhaps you'hv forgotten the number of coups that Pakistan has seen.

 

[Ammyy]

Indians would be the last I'd call Brothers in the whole Universe. We Got Shame.

Well just one thing for you

Pakistanis pose as Indians after NY bomb scare | Reuters

I dnt want to start troll but just take care your words

 

[AMCA]

When did we last listen to pakistan?? lol .... Anyways What have they got to do in our Internal issue which even the United Nations Does no Longer accept disputed?

 

[hembo]

Never liked Ms. Roy.

Never liked Nehru either...

Charge them both with sedition...

Could not be more happier....

 

[jayron]

Indians would be the last I'd call Brothers in the whole Universe. We Got Shame.

may I ask why?

 

[KS]

No doubt that comes as an unwelcome shock to you. Did you think this normal behaviour, something to be encouraged? Did you think breaking the law and breaking down the Babri Masjid was lawful? Did you think that killing 2,000 Muslims in riots, with the police helpfully standing by, was legal? Did you think wrecking cinema houses that show films featuring your activities in a bad light is legal? Did you think destroying a museum lawful?

First it was not 2000 Muslims --- it was 750 Muslims and around 300 Hindus.

Secondly Police were standing helplessly not because they wanted tio do so --- but because they were unable (ill-trained,ill-equipped,under-manned) to stop such a huge,spontaneous outbreak of violence. A malaise that afflicts most of our police forces.

 

[Joe Shearer]

First it was not 2000 Muslims --- it was 750 Muslims and around 300 Hindus.

Let us, for the sake of argument, accept your figures as the correct ones. If you wish, I can provide evidence separately that this break-up is inaccurate, but the point lies elsewhere.

I take it that your vigorous and robust participation in another thread on what democracy has brought to India indicates your broad support for democracy. I take it also, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, that the rule of law also has some meaning for you.

Is it then your case that a section of the citizenship, equal voting subjects of India, should be burnt alive, cut to bits, raped and murdered and otherwise slaughtered and this is justifiable?

Is it your case that if 2,000 of them were to be slaughtered, you oppose it, but if 750 are slaughtered, and another 300 of another section also die, you would then support it?

Is it your case that if a single Indian citizen, innocent of any crime, dies at the hands of a rioting mob, you would justify it?

Is it your case that if 35 people die in Chromepet, you are justified in slaughtering 750 people in Madurai, who have had nothing whatsoever to do with the Chromepet incident?

Secondly Police were standing helplessly not because they wanted tio do so --- but because they were unable (ill-trained,ill-equipped,under-manned) to stop such a huge,spontaneous outbreak of violence. A malaise that afflicts most of our police forces.

You have a point. It is quite true that most of our police forces are ill-trained, ill-equipped and under-manned and are for that reason unable to function properly.

Was it so in the case of the Gujarat riots? Are you sure - please take time to think of your answer, of the evidence available, and of the facts on record before responding - that this is what happened?

Would you be prepared for me to display in a Pakistani forum the vast array of evidence that shows that the Home Minister, seemingly under the influence of a higher authority, instructed the police to hold back, and directed police parties from place to place to keep them away from the scene of rioting, and prevent them from interfering?

Would you care to contradict evidence that the police actively supported the rioters, when they were not happily complying with the orders of the Home Minister?

At the end of the day, I have a fundamental question for you: When we take pride in our democracy and in our rule of law, and in our system where all citizens are equal, and all citizens can demonstrate peacefully without being assaulted, and we are shocked by the indifference to human life displayed by a dictatorship, where men standing unarmed in the path of tanks are cold-bloodedly run over, can you justify these incidents and still continue to be proud of democracy?

Or would you rather uphold democracy and the rule of law, and condemn these incidents, and work to prevent them?