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[prototype]

Angrez sarkar was behind creation of Deoband for obvious reasons.

And what were those obivious reasons

2. Deoband fitna is Indian it has NO right to speak about another country Occupied Kashmir

since they r indian they have every authority to speak on this matter and r stakeholders on this matter,as far as occupier is India

3. Being Indian entity deoband is nobody to poke its nose into Ksahmiri affairs

They obiviously have more right than any Pakistani kid sitting in front of the computer and commenting about Kashmir

4. Bharti Hindus are crying at top of their throat calling "Political" Islam as not acceptable anywhere SO in this case they are exposing their hypocrisy by gleeing over this

Or is it that u r exposed with all those talks about Islam can not exist as a part of india therefore kashmir rightfully belong to Paksitan because of it Islamic populace,do u feel busted

the Bottom line is any Indian view on Country of Kashmiris is not at all carrying any weight

currently it is the only one carrying weight,Pakistan had completely failed as of its own and bringing this as an international matter,no one is even ready to utter the k-word,we r the one who holds the card here

 

[greatsequence]

As Jamiat ulam-e-hind leader said in an interview with a pakistani news channel. What will happen to Indian Muslims if Kashmir gets its freedom. We should understand his plight. He is fighting for survival here, what else do you expect him saying.

You can look for the interview on youtube. Just type (Front Line Madani) in search box. Sorry at this very moment I can not tell the exact part.

 

[Pride]

So is he speaking for Muslims elsewhere or he is speaking for Hindu India ??



If this ONE Deobandi was speaking for Ummah and Muslims then he would have spoke against Indian terrorism in Kashmir NOT acting like Krishna

Wow earlier Deoband was created by Britishers and now they are run by Hindus.. amazing. Anyways this institution has entry to your Karachi, Lahore and Faisalabad.

This institution speaks for what is truth. It earlier opposed concept of Pakistan as Islam prohibits creation of any separate nation based on religion and they are same reiterating now as well.

 

[KS]

So is he speaking for Muslims elsewhere or he is speaking for Hindu India ??

He is speaking for the Kashmiri Muslims and echoing the thoughts of 150 million Indian Muslims.

If this ONE Deobandi was speaking for Ummah and Muslims then he would have spoke against Indian terrorism in Kashmir NOT acting like Krishna

He has spoken for the well-being of the Kashmiri Muslims and the well-being doesnt link with the fact whether they are with Hindu India or Buddhist Bhutan

 

[BTG]

Indian Muslims dont have a say in the Kashmir issue.

Indian Muslims decided to stay with india during partion in 1947, they are indians everyone accepts that.

The 4 provinces of Pakistan, NWFP, Punjab, Balochistan, and Sindh decided in a referendum to join Pakistan. This is documented, so you cant argue about "leaders". The voice of the people is what matters.

Kashmir was never given a referendum, thats why Kashmir is a disputed territory, recognized by the UN as a disputed territory.

Thats why Kashmiris like Mirawiz Umar Farooq say (like in the interview I posted above) that unlike indian Muslims, Kashmiris were never given a chance to determine their fate.

I am interested in knowing the reason behind the bold and underlined part... Is it because Indian armed forces (Which implies the Indian government) never allowed a referendum to take place?? IF the answer is YES, can you please be kind enough to answer the below questions on why the Indian armed forces entered J&K in the first place...

1) Did Indian armed forces storm into Kashmir on the day of India independence and took control of the territory?

2) Or did the princely ruler of J&K accede to Pakistan and Indian forces occupied this region against this?

3) Or did the people of J&K revolted against the princely ruler of J&K and the said princely ruler acceded to India and requested Indian armed forces assistance, to crush this uprising?

4) Or the Indian armed forces entered J&K after the princely ruler acceded to India and asked for Indian armed forces assistance to chase away armed intruders from outside, making trouble in J&K?

5) Or the princely ruler had not yet decided on what should be the status of J&K state and the Indian armed forces occupied this J&K state during this undecided time?

Is the presence of Indian armed forces in J&K is because of any of the above, if so kindly let me know... if the answer is none of the above, can you then also be kind enough to help us all understand why Indian armed forces entered J&K in the first place...

 

[Areesh]

Wow earlier Deoband was created by Britishers and now they are run by Hindus.. amazing. Anyways this institution has entry to your Karachi, Lahore and Faisalabad.

This institution speaks for what is truth. It earlier opposed concept of Pakistan as Islam prohibits creation of any separate nation based on religion and they are same reiterating now as well.

Yeah right since it being hypocrite supports your POV than it is supporting the truth and if says something otherwise, it would be Islamic Mullahs or extremists. Lollzzz. Looks like you have been swept away by irrational nationalism and have resorted to hypocrisy for justifying your occupation of Kashmir.

 

[TaimiKhan]

I think Deoband opposed the creation of Pakistan as well, according to them it was un-islamic, but offcourse, Pakistan was never an Islamic movement to begin with.

It may not be an Islamic movement, but Islam was definitely a factor in the creation of Pakistan.

 

[S_O_C_O_M]

no wonder dear,

kashmiri movement itself is forced and violent movement. these people with gun-- be it let or hijbul or what ever .......... india is just giving them suitable answer. and whole country support the cause.

how does it feel to be rejected?

 

[xenia]

Wow earlier Deoband was created by Britishers and now they are run by Hindus.. amazing. Anyways this institution has entry to your Karachi, Lahore and Faisalabad.

This institution speaks for what is truth. It earlier opposed concept of Pakistan as Islam prohibits creation of any separate nation based on religion and they are same reiterating now as well.

lol n what abt their recent verdict that muslim women's earnings are haram..why was there so much hue n cry..i know thats off topic but shows the cherry picking approach of india..n the cherry was big one this time..

 

[KS]

how does it feel to be rejected?

Tell us how you feel.?

98% Don`t Want To Join Pakistan - Kashmir Survey - Sri Lanka

Just 2% of people in J&K want to join Pak: Survey

 

[Spring Onion]

He is speaking for the Kashmiri Muslims and echoing the thoughts of 150 million Indian Muslims.

Sorry he is NOT speaking for Kashmiri Muslims because Kashmiris do not consider Indian Occupation ligitimate and that is why Indian Occupying forces are there to curb Kashmiris since many decades.

2. Neither This one Mulla is echoing the voice of 150 million Indian Muslims Because these 150 Million Muslims have NO voice even for themselves. The proofs of it are many just to cite ONE that is recent Pro-Hindu verdict by dominating Hindu Court of India.

He has spoken for the well-being of the Kashmiri Muslims and the well-being doesnt link with the fact whether they are with Hindu India or Buddhist Bhutan

The Kashmiris think differently. They think their well being is only in their own country which is occupied by India.

Claiming IoK as part of India, this mulla is just serving his Indian masters not speaking for Kashmiri Muslims

 

[prototype]

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2. Neither This one Mulla is echoing the voice of 150 million Indian Muslims Because these 150 Million Muslims have NO voice even for themselves. The proofs of it are many just to cite ONE that is recent Pro-Hindu verdict by dominating Hindu Court of India.

So that mean to get a stamp from Pakistani people that Indian Muslims have voice,Indian courts have to appease the Pakistani's,we dont need ur stamp ,150 million Muslims only want rest of the India want-Kashmir is staying here

.The Kashmiris think differently. They think their well being is only in their own country which is occupied by India.

Claiming IoK as part of India, this mulla is just serving his Indian masters not speaking for Kashmiri Muslims

So in ur consideration a Muslim should serve his religion first before serving his nation,that work fine in ur country,not here

 

[KS]

Sorry he is NOT speaking for Kashmiri Muslims because Kashmiris do not consider Indian Occupation ligitimate and that is why Indian Occupying forces are there to curb Kashmiris since many decades.

Of course he is speaking since Muslim brotherhood has given him this right.He can speak for all the Muslims in the world,which he seems fit.

Either he cannot speak because he cannot interfere in the matters of Kashmir (and so do Pakistanis) or he has the right to speak for them just like many Pakistani posters who claim Ummah.

Pick your choice.

2. Neither This one Mulla is echoing the voice of 150 million Indian Muslims Because these 150 Million Muslims have NO voice even for themselves. The proofs of it are many just to cite ONE that is recent Pro-Hindu verdict by dominating Hindu Court of India.

Lol...please read the judgement and the legal basis on which it was given and then come to argue.I l be waiting till then.

The Kashmiris think differently. They think their well being is only in their own country which is occupied by India.

Claiming IoK as part of India, this mulla is just serving his Indian masters not speaking for Kashmiri Muslims

Can we say the same for Mr.Geelani and his appeasement for his masters in Islamabad/Rawalpindi .?

 

[Pride]

Yeah right since it being hypocrite supports your POV than it is supporting the truth and if says something otherwise, it would be Islamic Mullahs or extremists. Lollzzz. Looks like you have been swept away by irrational nationalism and have resorted to hypocrisy for justifying your occupation of Kashmir.

Talking sensible is not that much difficult.. try atleast sometimes..

Truth is what it is, whomsoever says doesn't matter. Go to your Holy Books and come up with an explanation where Islam suggest to create a separate nation for Islam. Untill then you are hypocrite not me and also go ahead and answer those qns which I posted in earlier post..

 

[xenia]

Talking sensible is not that much difficult.. try atleast sometimes..

Truth is what it is, whomsoever says doesn't matter. Go to your Holy Books and come up with an explanation where Islam suggest to create a separate nation for Islam. Untill then you are hypocrite not me and also go ahead and answer those qns which I posted in earlier post..

here u come up with your interpretation of islam..n tell us where islam prohibits creation of a new state??