Kargil War: from Pakistani point if view.....

[joekrish]

Munnay apni auqat se barri batein na kiya ker ... You guys cant change history just because it exposes the cowardice and weakness of your ancestors

Very true and you are the result of the lack of cowardice and weakness of "our" ancestors.

 

[livingdead]

it was not a blunder though, musharaf never expected Indian response will be like this.

 

[oFFbEAT]

As the link you posted is not working , I surely have missed some entertainment

Okay , lets be Serious ... Do You reject that the Muslims ruled the Hindus for centuries ?

Yes, learn actual history.....(part 2 of the series)

 

[nForce]

We know very well what we say . Problem lies in your understanding . It is true that Pakistanis look down upon Indians and consider them inferior .. The reason for this is very simple . In hundreds of years of history , when Muslims and Hindus have lived together in India , Muslims were always the masters and rulers , the Hindus were always the slaves . This is a undeniable fact . Neither The Muslims are ready to accept the hindus as their equal , Nor the Hindus have forgotten their slavery and inferiority which is the main reason why they hate Muslims ...
The very existence of Pakistan is the failure of Hindus . India can claim a victory over Pakistan only if it removes Pakistan from the world map , Something indians can never do and everything else is the Indian frustration resulting from the Failure of Hindus .. At max they can kill muslim civilians in Gujrat and Kashmir .

Let me make something very clear here.

Great Muslim invaders came, Bin Kasim, Ghaznis,Abdalis,Mughals etc. etc.They came,plundered some stayed back and some did not.They ruled over this sub-continent.All of them came through the present Pakistan and that is where the converted the people there to Islam the most.You will agree up to here, since you say that you know the proper history.
There were a few families who held the position of power and the rest of the people were there subjects, Hindu-Muslim alike.

Now, does converting to the same religion as that of the ruler make you a ruler as well?You are Muslim, so was Akbar,Mahmud,Ibrahim etc etc.Does that make you a Mughal,Ghazni or a Lodi?

No, it does not make you anything.It makes you nothing but an attention seeker.

The Queen of England is Christian, so is a maid in Russia.Does that make that maid a queen too? What kind of fool's World you are living in ?

Now, are you telling me that all those in present Pakistan are royal descendents ? Then, I will have to say, all these invaders had to surpass the feats of Genghis Khan, if you know what I mean.I dont think your country will own an explanation like that.


They were Muslims, you are muslim.. that does not make you anything but yet another common man.If you want to be really proud about something, then you will have to earn it the hard way.

 

[joekrish]

As the link you posted is not working , I surely have missed some entertainment

Okay , lets be Serious ... Do You reject that the Muslims ruled the Hindus for centuries ?

Mughals ruled some parts of India, so.......

 

[oFFbEAT]

By not accepting history, Pakistanis are making a huge mistake.....(part3 of the series)

 

[M. Sarmad]

Very true and you are the result of the lack of cowardice and weakness of "our" ancestors.

You are absolutely wrong ... Our ancestors were the brave ones who had the courage to denounce fairy tail religion of Hindus and convert to the true religion of Islam .... And for the information of illiterate people like you , It was the teachings of Saints (Auliya) that resulted in mass conversions in India ..

 

[oFFbEAT]

How they brainwash Pakistanis from their childhood....(part4 of the series)..

 

[M. Sarmad]

Mughals ruled some parts of India, so.......

So you only know about the mughals ???? then you say that "Pakistanis have twisted the history"
Anyway, let me make it further easier for you . name the hindu rulers of North India (present day Pakistan) after the advent of islam !!!

 

[joekrish]

You are absolutely wrong ... Our ancestors were the brave ones who had the courage to denounce fairy tail religion of Hindus and convert to the true religion of Islam .... And for the information of illiterate people like you , It was the teachings of Saints (Auliya) that resulted in mass conversions in India ..

Well.......I do have a difference of opinion there. Did your ancestors denounce the so called fairy-tale religion before the Mughals rule?

 

[M. Sarmad]

Well.......I do have a difference of opinion there. Did your ancestors denounce the so called fairy-tale religion before the Mughals rule?

Yes . long before that . Around 1000 years ago when saints like "Data Ali Hajveri" came to Punjab .

 

[oFFbEAT]

"In most other countries, Muslims have assimilated new lands in the mainstream of Islamic culture. India is the one exception where neither Islam has been overpowered by India, nor has India been absorbed into the Islamic world."

Islam in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[joekrish]

So you only know about the mughals ???? then you say that "Pakistanis have twisted the history"
Anyway, let me make it further easier for you . name the hindu rulers of North India (present day Pakistan) after the advent of islam !!!

Main article: Sikh Empire

The Sikh Empire (1799–1849) was formed on the foundations of the Punjabi Army by Maharaja Ranjit Singh who was proclaimed "Sarkar-i-Khalsa", and was referred to as the "Maharaja of Lahore". [60] It consisted of a collection of autonomous Punjabi Misls, which were governed by Misldars, [61] mainly in the Punjab region. The empire extended from the Khyber Pass in the west, to Kashmir in the north, to Multan in the south and Kapurthala in the east. The main geographical footprint of the empire was the Punjab region. The formation of the empire was a watershed and represented the resurgence of the local culture and power which had been subdued for hundreds of years by Afghan and Mughal rule.

The foundations of the Sikh Empire, during the time of the Punjabi Army, could be defined as early as 1707, starting from the death of Aurangzeb. The fall of the Mughal Empire provided opportunities for the Punjabi army to lead expeditions against the Mughals and Pashtuns. This led to a growth of the army, which was split into different Punjabi armies and then semi-independent "misls". Each of these component armies were known as a misl, each controlling different areas and cities. However, in the period from 1762–1799, Sikh rulers of their misls appeared to be coming into their own. The formal start of the Sikh Empire began with the disbandment of the Punjab Army by the time of coronation of Ranjit Singh in 1801, creating a unified political state. All the misl leaders who were affiliated with the Army were nobility with usually long and prestigious family histories in Punjab's history. [

Yes . long before that . Around 1000 years ago when saints like "Data Ali Hajveri" came to Punjab .

And who ruled you then?

 

[M. Sarmad]

Main article: Sikh Empire

So thats all you could find ? Ofcourse we know very well about the tyrannical rule of sikhs that lasted around 50 years only , and that too , over some part of present day Pakistan . At that time , the British were already in India . We were later ruled by the british . We never deny that . Try hard and make a list , Then we can compare the Muslim rule to Hindu rule over present day Pakistan , and then you will have no difficulty in understanding what is actually being told to you

@joekrish
Punjab, Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Muhammad bin Qasim was the first to bring message of Islam to the population of Punjab. Over the next millennium Punjab was part of Muslim Empires consisting of Afghans, Pashtoon, and Turkic in cooperation with local Punjabi tribes and others, which facilitated a millennium long Islamic dominance across South Asia and with its peak during large parts of the Mughal Empire . During the reign of Mahmud of Ghazni, the province became an important centre with Lahore as its second capital of the Ghaznavid Empire based out of Afghanistan.

 

[joekrish]

So thats all you could find ? Ofcourse we know very well about the tyrant rule of sikhs that lasted around 50 years only , and that too , over some part of present day Pakistan . At that time , the British were already in India . We were later ruled by the british . We never deny that . Try hard and make a list , Then we can compare the Muslim rule to Hindu rule over present day Pakistan , and then you will have no difficulty in understanding what is actually being told to you

@joekrish
Punjab, Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Muhammad bin Qasim was the first to bring message of Islam to the population of Punjab. Over the next millennium Punjab was part of Muslim Empires consisting of Afghans, Pashtoon, and Turkic in cooperation with local Punjabi tribes and others, which facilitated a millennium long Islamic dominance across South Asia and with its peak during large parts of the Mughal Empire . During the reign of Mahmud of Ghazni, the province became an important centre with Lahore as its second capital of the Ghaznavid Empire based out of Afghanistan.

The question here is not about what I could find, let me refresh your memory

So you only know about the mughals ???? then you say that "Pakistanis have twisted the history"
Anyway, let me make it further easier for you . name the hindu rulers of North India (present day Pakistan) after the advent of islam !!!