Kargil : Indian Army's operation "Vijay" was ineffective

[The Maverick]

Their entire northern light infantry was bombed to death by bofars,and mirage 2000 laser guided bombs.
They left 600 bodies,in kargil.mountains.

civilised professional armies, bring everyone home dead or alive.
ie Mel.Gibson ' we were soldiers ,
nobody gets,left behind
your air force was paralysed no bvrs.

not well planned by mushraff

 

[ssethii]

If it was ineffective our PM and Army should not have accepted a face-saving deal and continued the fighting.

 

[Osiris]

Indian army was so ineffective in Kargil war, that even more that two decades after Pakistan lost Kargil peaks.

Pakistanis are still looking for a face saving (just like how its generals and politicians were looking for when the war was going on) , some times blaming US other times blaming its own elected government.

 

[GumNaam]

Indian army was so ineffective in Kargil war, that even more that two decades after Pakistan lost Kargil peaks.

Pakistanis are still looking for a face saving (just like how its generals and politicians were looking for when the war was going on) , some times blaming US other times blaming its own elected government.

uhm then you should court martial & lynch your own media...

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Interesting l
Is the America pressure too stoping you from taking the siachin from the incompetent Indian army or is the incompetence of your army which is stopping it.
End resul you vacated kargil and we still have siachin and kargil.

Hey don't blame the Indian media they were quoting the below one.

man u indians will sacavenge any heap of garbage ..
so now you will use a politcians statement to prove ur point.
back then the nation was angry why abhinandon was being returned so many stories were cooked many to serve their political purpose,,this is just one of them so was this one. whats his position? he is irrelevant.
Everyone knows its UN convention thing to return PoW .. Abhinandon may not be a war trophy but we kept his uniform...as a souvenir. lol modi could have been assertive enough to get his pilot back in full clothes when will modi wage another attack for kalbhoshuun yadev..

 

[Akatosh]

Pakistan is still sitting on 5 to 6 peaks. Kargil exposed Indian Army weaknesses in a big way. Pakistan had only 2500 troops there. India brought 40000. India used 100 jets and on the other hand our boys were not backed by any Air Force and still they are sitting on the highest peak and few other peaks. So yes India can claim the victory all they want, the reality on ground is different.

@Jackdaws

India is sitting on many peaks inside Pakistani side of LoC as per Pakistani admission:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1230592360821743616

 

[VkdIndian]

My research shows, IAF was ineffective

Your analysis seems to be inaccurate.

A senior PAF officer has analysed all the aspects and penned it down. Please read it before writing off IAF and IA in one line.

Kargil Conflict and Pakistan Air Force

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He also mentions few startling revelations about total lack of synergy and communication between various arms of Pakistan Defence forces.

No one stopped you from bringing more soldiers or using your Air Force.

Kaiser Tufail has clearly brought out the reasons for not deploying PAF. These trolls wouldn’t like to read the facts before jumping in with their story.

 

[Tornado23]

Lol.
India has already successfully retaliated back by capturing Point 5310 which is located one kilometer deep on Pakistani side of LoC and is far more strategically important than 5353.

More importantly the peak of 5353 lies on Pakistani side of LOC so Pakistan is actually not on Indian side of LoC.

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Point 5310 was an abandoned post on the pak side of the LoC. Its purpose is nowhere as great compared to 5353 which is approx 500m inside Indian territory as pinned out by praveen swahmy.

That coupled with the other 3 peaks we hold today.

So no. Again you still didn't win that war. Even after the ceasefire which you broke you still made a bigger loss.

 

[Tornado23]

Pakistan is still sitting on 5 to 6 peaks. Kargil exposed Indian Army weaknesses in a big way. Pakistan had only 2500 troops there. India brought 40000. India used 100 jets and on the other hand our boys were not backed by any Air Force and still they are sitting on the highest peak and few other peaks. So yes India can claim the victory all they want, the reality on ground is different.

@Jackdaws

4 peaks including 5353

 

[Jungibaaz]

@PanzerKiel my basic understanding of this whole episode is limited. But a quick question for you if you can elaborate. Had we not have conducted Kargil, and kept that strategy in our back pocket for use in optimal conditions; meaning the necessary justification, good preparation for int’l reaction, or as part of a war time strategy. How long might have this window existed where Indian knowledge of our threat and infrastructure would not be able to prevent us from capturing and retaining these heights?

I’m basically asking if this whole thing might have gone better if it were triggered at the right time? And if Kargil hadn’t have happened, how well would the Indians have been prepared say 10 years later for a similar campaign?

Many thanks in advance!

 

[Tornado23]

Didn't we get the peaks that were earlier in your possession too? Like 5310?
We had the money and the resources - so we used them to achieve our military objectives. Doesn't matter whether we needed 40,000 or 400,000. Do the Germans ask the Soviets why they used so many troops to take back Stalingrad and claim victory?

Now, why did your leadership run to the US? Or why didn't you use your Air Force or send reinforcements?

5310 was never really in our possession. It was abandoned before the war. You literally walked up to it and claimed victory. On an abandoned post... Bruh

 

[Tornado23]

Their entire northern light infantry was bombed to death by bofars,and mirage 2000 laser guided bombs.
They left 600 bodies,in kargil.mountains.

civilised professional armies, bring everyone home dead or alive.
ie Mel.Gibson ' we were soldiers ,
nobody gets,left behind
your air force was paralysed no bvrs.

not well planned by mushraff

You have no say whatsoever in these matters. Your points are stupid beyong belief. Leave pak def please and seek some education

 

[Jackdaws]

5310 was never really in our possession. It was abandoned before the war. You literally walked up to it and claimed victory. On an abandoned post... Bruh

Bruh. All the posts you occupied during the Kargil War were empty. Not one was occupied by fighting Indian forces. Not one. Bruh.

 

[313ghazi]

Pakistan as a nation could not sustain the war. Army can only fight if nation can afford it.

You indians seem obsessed with this narrative. Tell me how did Syria maintain it's civil war? How did Taliban fund 20 year war against the Americans?

 

[GumNaam]

India is sitting on many peaks inside Pakistani side of LoC as per Pakistani admission:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1230592360821743616

oh chanda beta, while you are reminiscing about your long lost glory of your lost peaks, we are violating your claimed sovereignty every single day, taking away multiple peaks including the highest peak from your incompetent army is just one example, we pump in infiltrators, China takes chunks out of your land, your sainiks are stranded on streets trying to barely survive against attacks from every direction. so instead of chest thumping your nonexistent bravado, why don't you start doing some serious investigations into why is your oversized and over funded military so ridiculously incompetent to the extent that you have to resort to social media to save your God dammed face!