Kamorta class corvettes for VPN ?

[kaku1]

our new Sigma corvette warships will have more firepower than the current light frigate Gepard.
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Sigma is good and cheap, but it doesnt provide like die hard weapon package.

 

[kaku1]

Absolutely true.

Regrettably, Philippines is following the direction of money under the table and national security is not important enough. Makes no sense, but it is what it is.

I dont blame them, there is actually minimal Indian influence in Philippines, Philippines is another american territory, they dont go Indian or Russian weapon system, but Korean or Jap or American.

 

[RISING SUN]

OK let us know, we'll dig it up.

Tomorrow as today I am tired from job and my fiance is waiting and I am busy here. She will be very upset. So can't focus on that. Tomorrow there is holiday. Will provide the name.

 

[Carlosa]

Proud of India's growing military manufacturing prowess especially in naval domain.
It helps so much geopolitics in addition to defence obviously.
Just goes on to show how far behind the army and airforce lag.

Here is to rapidly growing Indo-Asean relations .
Please buy our stuff, it will link our countries in a tighter geopolitical embrace.

Cheers brothers

I'm proud of India too.

 

[Carlosa]

Tomorrow as today I am tired from job and my fiance is waiting and I am busy here. She will be very upset. So can't focus on that. Tomorrow there is holiday. Will provide the name.

Thank you bro !!!!!

 

[RISING SUN]

In Vietnam the military and national security is priority one.

Yes that I am aware of but we should not loose focus on other important things too including our civil industries.

 

[RISING SUN]

Thank you bro !!!!!

Most welcome mate.

 

[Carlosa]

The Pohang Class was just the "gift". I believe that the Koreans are offering to the Philippines the Incheon Class Frigate. This ship is selling at $232 million per ship. It carries with it an impressive defensive array. Perhaps it might be what the Philippines needs at the moment.

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The problem is, Philippines doesn't have the luxury of time, now they have to wait 2 or 3 years instead of the Maestrales that were ready to go.

 

[RISING SUN]

My friend, can you tell us the site name? or is PDF censoring it?

PDF is not censoring. PDF is censored by my ISP. Will provide tomorrow.

 

[Carlosa]

Sigma is good and cheap, but it doesnt provide like die hard weapon package.

Not that cheap at $350 million.

 

[RISING SUN]

Bro, Kamotra definitely can held 8 BrahMos (300 KM with steep dive, and upto 500 KM in hi-hi mission), by removing 2 RBU-6000 and upto 16 Barak 8. And Barak 8 is not a normal SAM, it designed to protect the whole fleet like CBG.

Most of the 2000-3000 tonne frigate provide hand held air defense not VLS based SAM. Pohang class or Maestral class is nothing but sitting duck against hybrid Kamotra, they cant provide that much weapon package. If its goes in the hand of VN, then it will be nightmare for PLAN, and best VN's A2/AD

Bramhos will be overkill and will only increase issues for VN. Instead of going jingoistic we should be realistic. We can put all the hardware but from where are we going to put so many sensors. They also need space which is an issue in a patrol vessel even if big size one. There is a far more deadlier weapon but VN needs to put it in requirement.

 

[Carlosa]

Compare this with the Incheon Class' defense armaments:

1) LIG Nex 1 electronic warfare suite
2) KDAGAIE decoy suite
3) Phalanx CIWS
4) RAM Block 1 (with up to 21 round launchers)
5) SSM -700K Hae Sung
6) Hyunmoo-3 Cruise missiles (can carry up to 4)
7) LW Blue Shark Torpedoes


This frigate is a comprehensive class of ship. Its effective against sub threat, naval threat and air threats. I believe the Philippines can purchase up to 4 of these.

The weak part that I see there is only 4 anti ship missiles, that's way too little. The Ram block is very good.

 

[kaku1]

Compare this with the Incheon Class' defense armaments:

1) LIG Nex 1 electronic warfare suite
2) KDAGAIE decoy suite
3) Phalanx CIWS
4) RAM Block 1 (with up to 21 round launchers)
5) SSM -700K Hae Sung
6) Hyunmoo-3 Cruise missiles (can carry up to 4)
7) LW Blue Shark Torpedoes


This frigate is a comprehensive class of ship. Its effective against sub threat, naval threat and air threats. I believe the Philippines can purchase up to 4 of these.

Ok, but can you describe what Jap can provide to Philippines or Vietnam, in there endevour to acquire low cost frigate and low cost destroyers?

 

[William Hung]

I think the Kamorta class can be easily customized to integrate 8 Klub-S AShM/KH-35 AShM if the user(which in this case is the V.N.) wants it.It depends on the user but personally Tacticos along with Harpoon will be a better option for you guys.

With the Brahmos + Barak-8 +MF-Star, it will be better than any ship sailing in the SCS, except for the 052D.

Compare this with the Incheon Class' defense armaments:

1) LIG Nex 1 electronic warfare suite
2) KDAGAIE decoy suite
3) Phalanx CIWS
4) RAM Block 1 (with up to 21 round launchers)
5) SSM -700K Hae Sung
6) Hyunmoo-3 Cruise missiles (can carry up to 4)
7) LW Blue Shark Torpedoes


This frigate is a comprehensive class of ship. Its effective against sub threat, naval threat and air threats. I believe the Philippines can purchase up to 4 of these.

The Phalanx and RAM are really underwhelming. Both are just CIWS and can't handle a saturated missile attack.

The Kamorta and the Spanish offering from Navantia will have options for VLS MR-SAM. But they ain't gona win.

 

[RISING SUN]

I think the Kamorta class can be easily customized to integrate 8 Klub-S AShM/KH-35 AShM if the user(which in this case is the V.N.) wants it.It depends on the user but personally Tacticos along with Harpoon will be a better option for you guys.

Exactly cost effective and still deadly. It is not that I don't want them to go for Bramhos but needless money should not be spent.