Junaid Jamshed - Canada

[Gin ka Pakistan]

You are right , as nation we not following golden principles of Islam .

Well Said Iqbal RA

Muslims are living in Indo Pakistan and Middle East but Western countries are following the Islamic Principles.

Who ever follow Islam will get benefit .

I find more Islam in west then in Pakistan like
1. people don't cheat (one kg means one kg)
2. you don't need to pay bribe for your rights
3. dignity of labor (no one look down on you if you work with your hands)
4. welfare
5. charity
6. justices
7. equal level of education for all

 

[waraich66]

I find more Islam in west then in Pakistan like
1. people don't cheat (one kg means one kg)
2. you don't need to pay bribe for your rights
3. dignity of labor (no one look down on you if you work with your hands)
4. welfare
5. charity
6. justices
7. equal level of education for all

Most difficult thing is to fullfill the rights of others , that is reason our Prophet PBUH emphesis on rights more.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

80% of being Muslim is doing the right thing on top of prayers

a) Not lieing
b) Saying no to curruption
c) Saying no to writing on walls
d) Planting trees and loving nature and animals
e) Giving water to animals in hot weather
f) Looking after your neighbours
g) Your family
h) Not hurting anyone's feeling
i) Staying away from envy and jelousy
j) Women issues and rights
k) Good hygene
(Trimming your face bush , and wearing good designer clothes, and some good
cologne)
l) Standing up for human rights
m)No loud speaker usage to disturb sleep of people in village
o) Not to beat or harm any human with hand
p) Loving your wife being romantic ( yes that mean giving roses and chocolates) if you
have one , and please don't destroy the gifts stalls its called vandalism
q) Setlletlie channel theft say no , software choori , say no ... ?? How many of you
have a licenced ... software on your computer ?? hain?

Most of the gentleman ehem ehem ... don't necessarily follow none of above, they openly lie/cheat to sell items in shops, illegal weighing machines and "milavat" in foods, cheating with taxes, watching illegal settelite channels , free cables , high prices of food and gas during ramadan, Refusal to wear garments from west (Pants shirts), Bad hygene, silly hair , electricity theft , illegal parkings , breaking lines
for tickets even in west for cricket matches, charging too much for services.

When you question them face to face they go ... we pray 5 times a day and we are going to heavens , if being good muslim ment just growing your beard and strangely you shave yoru mustache ... then great we are the best country in world

Lage roho ...

PS:There may be some genuinely good ppl out there so my statement does not gerneralizes them but we have problem in our society and it has to be fixed

They day these tablighi ppl will take a paint box and paint the streets clean and take brooms and clean streets and pick up garbage on streets and helping blind person cross a street then we will talk again , or when they will remove posters and ugly graphity on walls ... yep you heard me that would be a day when I will pay attention to em

or how about a garden like this for your fellow human being to enjoy ?



The truth is they will not lift a pen ... to do any hard work ... there was a time when muslims had the most beautiful of gardens and orchids and cities had beautiful scenery ...SUPER LAZY ppl

Now its all just talkers ... thats it

We could use some volunteers 1000,2000 volunteers to clean garbage in streets

 

[forcetrip]

I find more Islam in west then in Pakistan like
1. people don't cheat (one kg means one kg)
2. you don't need to pay bribe for your rights
3. dignity of labor (no one look down on you if you work with your hands)
4. welfare
5. charity
6. justices
7. equal level of education for all

if anyone here says islam is praying 5 times a day rather than all the things you mentioned .. Id rather be a jew or even someone than believes that islam dosnt exist.

 

[Al-zakir]

JJ was my senior in UET ,he is mechanical engineer by profession, joined Tableegi jamat and left singing which is haram in islam .

Mash'allah! I did not know this info. Thanks for sharing with me.

Here is a Bangla Nath by JJ. He sung it very well, just beautiful. Please listen to it. You may not understand the word but will feel it in the heart.

 

[Al-zakir]

Another beautiful Nath by Junaid.

 

[Comet]

People! why are we discussing religion here?

Please tell me, how many of you are willing to change (in thought and action) in case someone else proves you wrong on this forum?

If not, and you are tightly bound with your views, then there is no need to debate over this.

 

[Hyde]

trust me sometimes i feel like crying on the state of our Muslim Ummah. I have never seen them having peaceful discussion even on one topic

Doesn't matter how much educated they are but when it comes to religion all of us are emotionals and not ready to listen to each other

 

[F86 Saber]

F86 Saber...stick to the subject...Mullahs were in control before as a good example khulafa e rashideen..you bash Mullahs but your not investing your loose time into Islam instead into Allah's knows well..don't be oxymoron most mullahs don't threaten to blow up but those who do are not even mullahs but paid on cia and what not..try not watch bbc/cnn/fox try reading history of Islam, Quran/Hadith..impressing does not mean u start kicking Islam's butt and mullahs ***** and making some stupid movies..and i totally forgot you're 13?

This is the first thing wrong about these fundamentalists that they lack the patience of listening to someone who is contradicting their point. How dare you compare these "Neem Mullahs" to the Khulfa e Rashideen..... They were people who earned respect not forced it. Anyways after reading you post again i don't find it worthy of a reply.

I remember when i was young, there was this groups of Mullahs who used to go to people's houses and invited them for "Islamic discussion" at somebody's house. One day my father decided to go and took me along and the so called "Islamic discussion" was about driving the "Ehl-e-Tashi" out of the neighbourhood because according to them their faith was wrong. From that day onwards whenever I see such a group comming towards me i flee.

 

[Awesome]

No religious debates, even if its through JJ.

 

[VrSoLdIeRs]

its too late but few things i wanted to say

1. music: different views are there, some scholars think its not allowed in islam, some suggest it is allowed, so its upto you to decide cause in the end it will be you answerable not some scholar you followed. As for the sufis, buddy islam was there before them as well, plus they were just normal human beings like us, even they can make mistakes, but as i said as some scholars are convinced music is allowed, the sufis might be seeing the scenario from that prospective.

2. Tableeghi: again its upto a personal choice how they talk to the people, not all tableeghi are like that, some are mostly aint, so you cant categorize them. Islam clearly orders 'Amar Bil Maroof, Wa Nahi Anil Munkir'... but on the other hand even if you see someone praying namaz and he makes a mistake, you can only go up and inform him if you are sure that it wont make any fuss (as most people are emotional)

3. I aint very religious person myself but i have been to some of the gatherings (Ijtemah) and majority of them never ever blamed any other sect for doing something that they consider unislamic, some scholars indulge in such stuff but most dont!!!

4. as for junaid jamshed... from where i see he left something he considered wrong for something way better then that... all we can do is point fingers... i strongly believe that majority of the keyboard ninjas have never been to a scholar (not ever mosques Imaam is a scholar)

5. coming to his boutiques, whats wrong with it? arent these clothes just like the ones pakistani male/female wear everyday?

6. as for shoaib mansoor that guy has been on fire since junaid changed... it is understandable as he played a major part in JJ's career... so you can find columns, interviews even a movie based on all that, but have you ever found JJ saying anything against SM? (please give me a reference if so!!!)

7. one last thing as for that movie, major story was about taliban but ended up trying to convince people that music is allowed... hope this doesnt need any clarification

plus if ever in doubt why dont we bother going to a mufti??? are we afraid or something?