Junaid Jamshed - Canada

[TechLahore]

best example of professional mullahs would be than Prophets first if your denying their place in Islam than you've not done your home work..I've nothing more to add pray before you're prayed upon...to them are their deeds..lastly If Prophet Muhammad P.B.U.H has given the glad tidings.. of those ten companions that includes those 4 Caliphs of Islam and 6 more as explained in Hadiths rest assured some of you can bash those Caliphs when Allah and His Messenger has given them the good news rest of people like you stands in the corner Considered Losers because Allah knows and you do not know Allah has given good news to Prophet of certain people..
"don't tell me Prophet Muhammad P.B.U.H was wrong about his assessments of his Companions because that would be a big mistake by you and you'll have to prove it here...

for the kings part: Indeed in the eyes of Allah he was a true righteous king.
Abu Bakr , He lived a very simple, pious and upright life. He was a true servant of Almighty Allah and a meticulous follower of Sayyiduna Rasulullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) take your time read authentic biography of Abu Bakr RA infact all Caliphs authentic biographies..

I have probably read more history than you. Definitely not less.

Far be it from someone like you to tell me what my fate is going to be. When the Prophet was asked by some followers as to what would become of them, he said, I don't know of what will happen to me, much less what will happen to you. People like you who are quick to judge and act like Allah mian's chowkidars need to get a life.

The next time you attack me personally and try to suggest that you know what my fate is going to be, I will respond in kind.

And if you view the Prophets of God as professional mullahs then you need some assistance in the language and comprehension dept.

 

[HAIDER]

Please change the title of the thread to Mullah Jamshed visits Canada.

LOL, this guy is an absolute joke now, he could have done so much for Islam through his popularity and image by enhance its reputation. Instead he changed his look to that of bomber mullah and scared people off.

I agree with TechLahore, in london too these tablighi guys just come on too strong and put you off. Fortunately I always get a chance to shut these people up as I know alot about Islam too and their knowlegde is limited to trivial matters.

Naat reciting Mullah Jamshed and his boutiques, lol.

Well, one of my good friend got same germs, and came to US for Tabligh. I ask that guy..u spent thousands of rupees to come here, wouldn't be better help some poor over their from same money...o well...daily people dying of hunger and other monetary related problems..

 

[DaRk WaVe]

All religious talk must be banned on this forum

It ends no where & every one goes on to prove that the other is a bad Muslim & goes on to Judge the faith of other with his/her measuring instruments

 

[HAIDER]

All religious talk must be banned on this forum

It ends no where & every one goes on to prove that the other is a bad Muslim & goes on to Judge the faith of other with his/her measuring instruments

remind me hotel sign...udhar mang kar sharminda na hoon, Yahan siassi guftogo mana haa.

 

[waraich66]

Well, one of my good friend got same germs, and came to US for Tabligh. I ask that guy..u spent thousands of rupees to come here, wouldn't be better help some poor over their from same money...o well

Giving money to poor is good but if non muslim convert to Islam due to tableeg is much much better .

Dawah and Tableeg is prime responsibility of every muslim .We are muslim due tableeg of Wali ullah and sufi's , Dawah and tableeg should continue uptill Kayamat.

In last Kutbah of Muhammad PBUH , our Prophet PBUH said that Islam is now complete no more Prophets will come , it is now responsibility of every muslim to deliver message of Allah to non muslims.

 

[DaRk WaVe]

Junaid has publicly criticised the way Mansoor has portrayed jihadis and Islamic evangelists in Khuda Kay Liye. He has alluded that it is Shoaib who is confusing the youth about Islam and not him. But of course, Junaid's own confusion regarding the subject is now well documented and his lectures and statements never fail to sound contradictory as he goes about denouncing the material and the ungodly nature of music and showbiz, but continuing his long-standing stint as an expensive clothes' designer and a naat-reciter. He releases his naat albums through exactly the same immoral promotional and distribution channels used by the pop music counterparts."

interesting, Why i never thought about JJ's outlet in Jinnah Super Market

 

[waraich66]

All religious talk must be banned on this forum

It ends no where & every one goes on to prove that the other is a bad Muslim & goes on to Judge the faith of other with his/her measuring instruments

Islam is life of muslims , then you have to ban all muslim members , can you do that?

 

[DaRk WaVe]

Islam is life of muslims , then you have to ban all muslim members , can you do that?

thats what i was expecting

are you trying to say that people who don't want to indulge in religious discussions or people who want to 'think & question' religion are not Muslims???

 

[FireFighter]

No, I suggest he stop losing his temper when someone doesn't want to follow his tableeghi path and that he stop inserting himself into people's faces during his tableeghi jaunts and subjecting them to his rhetoric and self-righteousness. Having been harassed by campus Tableeghis while studying in the US, literally to the point of them beating the damn door down, I have no patience for their ilk. Rather than convincing people to turn to Islam based upon their actions, they are all about showing up uninvited, shoving themselves into your face and blabbering away when no one's asked them for their opinion.

I understand your annoyance with the tableeghis, but Perhaps you should heed your own advice first by controlling your anger towards the uninvited guests. whether invited or not, guests are guests and their status in Islam is well known, and by virtue of their presence, you're supposed to remain patient and hospitable towards them. Studying in the US your islamic books havn't taught you this aspect of faith it seems.

Secondly, JJ losing temper over Shoaib Mansur according to some unsubstantiated report whose details r shrouded in mystery and unverified is a reason enough for you to self-righteously villify him and issue condemnations of sorts on his personal life and doings. I doubt JJ was "beating down your damn door" in the US as you so dramatically and exaggeratingly put it.

last but not least, I see you have a lot of criticism and suggestions for the missionary work of tableeghis, it seem you know more about Islam than the missionaries as you so eloquently put it. Ever considered preaching and showing Islam by example? I'm sure a lot of people would be convinced through your rants and diatribes.

Two questions: 1) What does this have to do with anything and 2) I thought sectarianism was haram in Islam... do you believe in bifurcating the ideology God sent us into sects?

That doesn't have to do with anything, but apparently the tone of your post seems to have a sectarian vibe. I dont blame you for this but i understand its natural to have sectarian leanings in Pakistan.

 

[TechLahore]

Very much impressed by your understanding of dawah and tableeg , JJ was my senior in UET ,he is mechanical engineer by profession, joined Tableegi jamat and left singing which is haram in islam .

Let me be clear. You are alleging that Hazrat Nizam-ud-din Aulia, Hazrat Amir Khusro and the great Sufi Saints who wrote their own poetry and put it to music and sung it were all engaging in a haram act?

 

[waraich66]

Let me be clear. You are alleging that Hazrat Nizam-ud-din Aulia, Hazrat Amir Khusro and the great Sufi Saints who wrote their own poetry and put it to music and sung it were all engaging in a haram act?

We need to follow Sunnah and Quran for right path.

 

[waraich66]

thats what i was expecting

are you trying to say that people who don't want to indulge in religious discussions or people who want to 'think & question' religion are not Muslims???

You mis understood

 

[DaRk WaVe]

We need to follow Sunnah and Quran for right path.

thats not the aswner of his question, I repeat his question

Hazrat Amir Khusro and the great Sufi Saints who wrote their own poetry and put it to music and sung it were all engaging in a haram act?

you can simply say yes or no in Light of Sunnah & Quran

You mis understood

then make me understand, Do your Tableeg with me
teach ur sister some Islam & earn place in heaven
why can't i question my religion? Why am i to take everything as a 'divine truth'?
or may be you will say me 'Your Hopeless & only GOD can help you'

 

[Evil Flare]

Let me be clear. You are alleging that Hazrat Nizam-ud-din Aulia, Hazrat Amir Khusro and the great Sufi Saints who wrote their own poetry and put it to music and sung it were all engaging in a haram act?

We Should Follow only Quran & Sunnah ... Which Muhammad P.B.U.H & his Sahaba Did in their Life ....

 

[HAIDER]

well ..Hazrat dawood , his voice and musical instrument.....