Junaid Jamshed - Canada

[TechLahore]

u liberals are so out of your minds, in other thread, its called flaming to other which are not liberals and you delete their posts, but in other non liberal threads, you ppl start flaming.

when once the zerdari govt is gone, we will deal with you people.

Ha ha! This is rich... you are threatening me? Bring it on

And by the way, I didn't know you were so scared of Zardari. Why don't you deal with "us people" with him at the helm of affairs?

 

[TechLahore]

Junaid Jamshed is putting his talent to good use. What else do you suggest he should do? abandon his designer clothing business and stop singing nasheeds and join the TTP??

No, I suggest he stop losing his temper when someone doesn't want to follow his tableeghi path and that he stop inserting himself into people's faces during his tableeghi jaunts and subjecting them to his rhetoric and self-righteousness. Having been harassed by campus Tableeghis while studying in the US, literally to the point of them beating the damn door down, I have no patience for their ilk. Rather than convincing people to turn to Islam based upon their actions, they are all about showing up uninvited, shoving themselves into your face and blabbering away when no one's asked them for their opinion.

Don't mind me asking, What sect of Islam do you follow?

Two questions: 1) What does this have to do with anything and 2) I thought sectarianism was haram in Islam... do you believe in bifurcating the ideology God sent us into sects?

 

[T-Faz]

Please change the title of the thread to Mullah Jamshed visits Canada.

LOL, this guy is an absolute joke now, he could have done so much for Islam through his popularity and image by enhance its reputation. Instead he changed his look to that of bomber mullah and scared people off.

I agree with TechLahore, in london too these tablighi guys just come on too strong and put you off. Fortunately I always get a chance to shut these people up as I know alot about Islam too and their knowlegde is limited to trivial matters.

Naat reciting Mullah Jamshed and his boutiques, lol.

 

[Evil Flare]

Please change the title of the thread to Mullah Jamshed visits Canada.

LOL, this guy is an absolute joke now, he could have done so much for Islam through his popularity and image by enhance its reputation. Instead he changed his look to that of bomber mullah and scared people off.

I agree with TechLahore, in london too these tablighi guys just come on too strong and put you off. Fortunately I always get a chance to shut these people up as I know alot about Islam too and their knowlegde is limited to trivial matters.

Naat reciting Mullah Jamshed and his boutiques, lol.

Mind Your insulting language ......

 

[Luftwaffe]

F86 Saber...stick to the subject...Mullahs were in control before as a good example khulafa e rashideen..you bash Mullahs but your not investing your loose time into Islam instead into Allah's knows well..don't be oxymoron most mullahs don't threaten to blow up but those who do are not even mullahs but paid on cia and what not..try not watch bbc/cnn/fox try reading history of Islam, Quran/Hadith..impressing does not mean u start kicking Islam's butt and mullahs ***** and making some stupid movies..and i totally forgot you're 13?

 

[TechLahore]

F86 Saber...stick to the subject...Mullahs were in control before as a good example khulafa e rashideen

Not true. Mullahs were not in control during the period you are talking about. They were a creation of a subsequent historic period where the khalifas - more aptly described as kings - spent money to doctor ahadith, destroy holy places and create schisms in the muslim polity by using these commercial priests.

There is really no place in Islam for a professional mullah. In fact, it is one of the ills of catholicism Islam was supposed to right...

 

[Luftwaffe]

best example of professional mullahs would be than Prophets first if your denying their place in Islam than you've not done your home work..I've nothing more to add pray before you're prayed upon...to them are their deeds..lastly If Prophet Muhammad P.B.U.H has given the glad tidings.. of those ten companions that includes those 4 Caliphs of Islam and 6 more as explained in Hadiths rest assured some of you can bash those Caliphs when Allah and His Messenger has given them the good news rest of people like you stands in the corner Considered Losers because Allah knows and you do not know Allah has given good news to Prophet of certain people..
"don't tell me Prophet Muhammad P.B.U.H was wrong about his assessments of his Companions because that would be a big mistake by you and you'll have to prove it here...

for the kings part: Indeed in the eyes of Allah he was a true righteous king.
Abu Bakr , He lived a very simple, pious and upright life. He was a true servant of Almighty Allah and a meticulous follower of Sayyiduna Rasulullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) take your time read authentic biography of Abu Bakr RA infact all Caliphs authentic biographies..

 

[VrSoLdIeRs]

i really like this guy... one of my fav. personalities in the world... he is the best in whatever he did!!!

 

[Al-zakir]

Please change the title of the thread to Mullah Jamshed visits Canada.

LOL, this guy is an absolute joke now, he could have done so much for Islam through his popularity and image by enhance its reputation. Instead he changed his look to that of bomber mullah and scared people off.

I agree with TechLahore, in london too these tablighi guys just come on too strong and put you off. Fortunately I always get a chance to shut these people up as I know alot about Islam too and their knowlegde is limited to trivial matters.

Naat reciting Mullah Jamshed and his boutiques, lol.

If you have come from Muslim back ground then I bet some of your family members got long beared like him so would they be Mullah(insulting remark) as well????

When your time up and baba Azrael decideded to give you a visit then all the mockery would be gone and it is these so called mullah(your remark) type may recite some versus of Al-Qur'an for some mercey instead of some clean shaved Oxfored grad.

 

[T-Faz]

If you have come from Muslim back ground then I bet some of your family members got long beared like him so would they be Mullah(insulting remark) as well????

When your time up and baba Azrael decideded to give you a visit then all the mockery would be gone and it is these so called mullah(your remark) type may recite some versus of Al-Qur'an for some mercey instead of some clean shaved Oxfored grad.

Please spare me the details, I am talking about a specific look that Mr Jamshed has been sporting and it is akin to those of who have created havoc in our societies. The word mullah has become an insult, its devalued by the people who use this to describe themselves.

My fellow countrymen have beek killed becuase certain people who call themsleves Mullahs have corrupted my religion to suit their political needs. I know people with beards and also extremely good muslim scholars to leaders and they find the word Mullah to be of offense too.

And god will judge me for my actions not some Mullah or Oxford Grad. It is one thing to be reliant on other humans for your guidance and another to learn from what god has revealed to us in our book.

 

[Al-zakir]

I know people with beards and also extremely good muslim scholars to leaders and they find the word Mullah to be of offense too.

Why can Junaid Jamshed be one of those good muslim scholar. He has neither advocate any violence nor paritcipitated in anti-Islamic movement thus why insult him for the transformantion?

Reciting "Hamd Nath" is pure ibadah so where is he wrong here? Doing business is not haram so why is he being criticized for this?

It's not Junaid Jamshed responsibilty to enforce Islamic finance in "Islamic Republic of Pakistan".

 

[T-Faz]

Why can Junaid Jamshed be one of those good muslim scholor. He has neither advocate any violence nor paritcipitated in anti-Islamic movement thus why insult him for the transformantion?

Reciting "Hamd Nath" is pure ibadah so where is he wrong here? Doing business is not haram so why is he being criticized for this?

It's not Junaid Jamshed responsibilty to enforce Islamic finance in "Islamic Republic of Pakistan".

I would not have a problem with him but the problem occurs when he is forcing his specific ideology, not Islamic ideology on people by publicly being vocal on such issues when he neither has the training or support of the common people to do so.

I do not have a problem with him becoming religious but rather his inane sense of acting like he is above all and its his god given duty to tell people what to do. He could have lived a secluded lifestyle with his family and help the poor and needy but instead he is pushing his belief and thought process on us.

This is what I mean when I say that it is better to be self learned and evolved as Allah guides you, no matter what junaid says or do, nothing can change.

 

[Al-zakir]

I would not have a problem with him but the problem occurs when he is forcing his specific ideology, not Islamic ideology on people by publicly being vocal on such issues when he neither has the training or support of the common people to do so.

Can you give me an example where he force anyone to follow his ideology?
All I see, he either reciting "hamd-nath" or time to time give lecture based on either qur'an or Sunnah.

I do not have a problem with him becoming religious but rather his inane sense of acting like he is above all and its his god given duty to tell people what to do. He could have lived a secluded lifestyle with his family and help the poor and needy but instead he is pushing his belief and thought process on us.

This is what I mean when I say that it is better to be self learned and evolved as Allah guides you, no matter what junaid says or do, nothing can change.

You may be aware that giving dawat(invitation) is part of Islam whether to a bay-namazi or non-muslim. Tableeghi jamaat is based on that same dawat that Huzoor Akram(S.W.A) and Sahaba Ajmaeen has done during the early days of Islam and it's still continue today. I am not edvocating you to join or support Tableegh Jamaat but it is not wrong what is being done by Tableegi Jamaat as fer Islam.

Let me give an example.
Suppose you and me standing near by a Masjid and Muazeen has called for pray. You happen to be practicing muslim and I am not so it's your duty as a good muslim to invite(not force) me to join you in the pray. You will be rewarded for this good deed.

 

[waraich66]

Can you give me an example where he force anyone to follow his ideology?
All I see, he either reciting "hamd-nath" or time to time give lecture based on either qur'an or Sunnah.




You may be aware that giving dawat(invitation) is part of Islam whether to a bay-namazi or non-muslim. Tableeghi jamaat is based on that same dawat that Huzoor Akram(S.W.A) and Sahaba Ajmaeen has done during the early days of Islam and it's still continue today. I am not edvocating you to join or support Tableegh Jamaat but it is not wrong what is being done by Tableegi Jamaat as fer Islam.

Let me give an example.
Suppose you and me standing near by a Masjid and Muazeen has called for pray. You happen to be practicing muslim and I am not so it's your duty as a good muslim to invite(not force) me to join you in the pray. You will be rewarded for this good deed.

Very much impressed by your understanding of dawah and tableeg , JJ was my senior in UET ,he is mechanical engineer by profession, joined Tableegi jamat and left singing which is haram in islam .

Dawah is responsibility of every muslim , Mullah/Mufti is high level and resptectable position .

Let me clear that for dawah their is no restriction first to get education of mullana or Mufti , any muslim can invite other muslims towards Salah,Haj,Zakat,Zikar,Dawah etc.

Tableeg is for non muslim only .

 

[Bas_tum_Pak]

Please change the title of the thread to Mullah Jamshed visits Canada.

when he will get enough Islamic knowledge , then Title will suite. word 'Mullah' is joke for whom who are in inferiority Complex.

LOL, this guy is an absolute joke now, he could have done so much for Islam through his popularity and image by enhance its reputation. Instead he changed his look to that of bomber mullah and scared people off.

You mean to say all the people who leave the wrong way , music etc become joke?

God give him look , it is natural.