JUI-F's Maulana Shirani comes out against Fazlur Rehman and voices support for israel

[Cliftonite]

Hi,

Where does Kashmir fit into the picture---.

Kashmir has nothing to do with Israel---. That is a sabotage done by the enemy agents and you have fallen for it---.

Kashmir is an independent issue and nothing to do with Israel---.

The Armenia-Azerbaijan Nagorno Karabakh conflict fits the Kashmir issue much more. Nagorno Karabakh is an ethnically Armenian (IOK) region given to Azerbaijan (India) by Russia (British). The Armenians of NK (Azad Kashmiris and GBians) fought back and ooccupied it (except the Armenians occupied the whole region unlike us). The Armenians of Nagorno Karabakh had every right to their own self-determination much like the Kashmiris and they took it.

If that moral equivalence didn't stop Pakistan from supporting Azerbaijan in "reoccupying" Nagorno Karabakh, Palestine should also not have any effect on Kashmir. But who can reason with din-dins who don't know sh*t about diplomacy and realpolitik.

 

[Yankee-stani]

The Armenia-Azerbaijan Nagorno Karabakh conflict fits the Kashmir issue much more. Nagorno Karabakh is an ethnically Armenian (IOK) region given to Azerbaijan (India) by Russia (British). The Armenians of NK (Azad Kashmiris and GBians) fought back and ooccupied it (except the Armenians occupied the whole region unlike us). The Armenians of Nagorno Karabakh had every right to their own self-determination much like the Kashmiris and they took it.

If that moral equivalence didn't stop Pakistan from supporting Azerbaijan in "reoccupying" Nagorno Karabakh, Palestine should also not have any effect on Kashmir. But who can reason with din-dins who don't know sh*t about diplomacy and realpolitik.

When did Pakistanis actually started to care more about some post Soviet republics affairs as their "own" battle boggles my mind Pakistanis are like this if their "ally" hates another country they hate that country if Arabs hate Iranians the Pakistanis hate the Iranians if the Turks hate the Armenians or Arabs the Pakistanis hate the Armenians and Arabs and to be fair my interactions with Armos are ok tbh @Cliftonite

 

[El Sidd]

The Armenia-Azerbaijan Nagorno Karabakh conflict fits the Kashmir issue much more.

Pakistan doesn't recognize Armenia.

Why don't you start small and get this done before moving to matters of Ka'desh?

 

[Cliftonite]

Pakistan doesn't recognize Armenia.

Why don't you start small and get this done before moving to matters of Ka'desh?

I personally don't care if Pakistan doesn't recognize Armenia cause Armenia doesn't have anything to offer economically or geopolitically.

I'm just saying the propagated myth of "if we give up the Palestine cause it would weaken our Kashmir stance" is flawed because it didn't stop us in other similar moral equivalences.

But on a last note, not recognizing Armenia for Turkey and Azerbaijan's sake just proves how cucked we are to please other countries when Turkey and Azerbaijan themselves fricking recognize Armenia.

 

[El Sidd]

I personally don't care if Pakistan doesn't recognize Armenia cause Armenia doesn't have anything to offer economically or geopolitically.

I'm just saying the propagated myth of "if we give up the Palestine cause it would weaken our Kashmir stance" is flawed because it didn't stop us in other similar moral equivalences.

But on a last note, not recognizing Armenia for Turkey and Azerbaijan's sake just proves how cucked we are to please other countries when Turkey and Azerbaijan themselves fricking recognize Armenia.

Have you ever looked at a map and see where Armenia is to make such outrageous claims?

We like to keep things simple.

 

[Cliftonite]

Have you ever looked at a map and see where Armenia is to make such outrageous claims?

We like to keep things simple.

Stop trolling Retired Troll

 

[El Sidd]

Stop trolling Retired Troll

Ok

 

[Yankee-stani]

I personally don't care if Pakistan doesn't recognize Armenia cause Armenia doesn't have anything to offer economically or geopolitically.

I'm just saying the propagated myth of "if we give up the Palestine cause it would weaken our Kashmir stance" is flawed because it didn't stop us in other similar moral equivalences.

But on a last note, not recognizing Armenia for Turkey and Azerbaijan's sake just proves how cucked we are to please other countries when Turkey and Azerbaijan themselves fricking recognize Armenia.

Azerbaijan and Armenia since the collapse of the USSR have no official diplomatic ties since 1992 but Turkey recognizes Armenia just no embassy but there is big trade between Yerevan and Ankara which is in Turkish favor as Armenia is poor and practically isolated

 

[MastanKhan]

Why is Israel so much important? Pardon me but they are a very small insigficant country of just 8m population. I don't consider them gods like some members here.

Hi,

Mongols were also an insignificant number---but they smashed the chinese dynasties.

And more insignificant were the bedouin warriors of islam---just a miniscule in number but decimated the persian and the roman empire---.

You lack of consideration is not even a spec that a fly leaves on glass.

 

[ayodhyapati]

JUI-F leader Maulana Sherani supports recognition of Israel. Maulana Muhammad Khan Sherani says that Pakistan should recognize Israel.


In an interview with Saudi website Urdu News , Maulana Sherani said that recognizing Israel is not a religious issue but a political and international issue. Personally, I am in favor of recognizing Israel.


Maulana Sherani further said that Palestine was the property of the Ottoman Caliphate, it has recognized Israel, it was the case of the Arabs, they have also accepted it, but thousands of kilometers away, there are selfish sentiments on this issue which are irrational.

On this occasion, Maulana Khan Sherani declared Maulana Fazlur Rehman as selected and liar. Maulana Sherani said that the parties which call Imran Khan selected should look into their own collars and see if they are selected or elected.

Maulana Mohammad Khan Sherani said that he had also said at the same time about the sit-in of Azadi March that they will come as they have gone. Regarding this PDM, I also said that I do not see any result and I do not see any apparent atmosphere for a deal.

Maulana Sherani, without naming Maulana Fazlur Rehman, called him a liar and said that our destiny is such that the ulema and national leaders are not ashamed when they are proved to be lying. He brazenly says that this is a strategy. And when the breach of promise is proved against them, they openly say that this is politics. When the deception is proved against them, then they lean comfortably and say that this is the best time. When selfishness is proven, they say it is wisdom.

Maulana Sherani termed Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam and PDM chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman as a liar and said that Fazlur Rehman has always been an expert in lying. Have come

On the resignations of the opposition, Maulana Sherani said that resignations are cash and it is not wise to throw cash and hope for a loan.

Maulana Akhtar Sherani directed the old and angry workers of Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam to set up separate offices across Balochistan as the party is no one's fiefdom and whoever is dreaming of such a thing should stop this and wake up from their slumber. ۔

one day enemies are going to become friends. long live Israel .

 

[ayodhyapati]

Recognize Israel and then kiss goodbye to Kashmir. Pakistan looses its moral argument against Hindutva Indian occupation of Kashmir.

after turkey recognize israel pakistan has no other option.

 

[Itachi]

I'm comparing you not me....given your self aggrandization. Urdu mein bolein tou apna moun miyan mithu.

Main teri gand Urdu ya English main bhi phar sakta hoon. Meri Urdu aur English dono tumharay say achi hain.

All I'm saying is (and I'm paraphrasing what my Turkish friends say)...Pakistanis are nobody to speak for Turkey as to whether Ataturk was good or bad or whether they should revert to some imaginary neo Ottoman empire.


Many Pakistanis on PDF (and on the internet at large) feel they can dictate to other Muslim countries what they should do and what their best interests are under some mystical united Ummah diktat. Don't believe me? Go to the UAE-Israel and Morocco-Israel normalization thread on PDF. It's full of Pakistani smart alecs dictating to the Emiratis and Moroccans how this act will destroy them and how their kings are evil for doing this. Even though the Emiratis like @Abu Dhabi and Moroccans like @Alithemoor1 are prefectly fine with the normalization. I think the people of Emirates, Morocco, Turkey and elsewhere are perfectly capable of making their own decisions.


Like please stop. It's embarrassing at this point. You make it hard for us non ummah chummah Pakistanis as well.

We can do and say whatever we want to. This is a free world. It has no place for insecure bitches who like to tell others what to do and what not to.

If it "embarasses" you then that's fine by me. You be like that.

after turkey recognize israel pakistan has no other option.

Pakistan has a lot of options. Your worry about the sorry state of your nation first. Then worry about Pakistan.

 

[ayodhyapati]

Main teri gand Urdu ya English main bhi phar sakta hoon. Meri Urdu aur English dono tumharay say achi hain.



We can do and say whatever we want to. This is a free world. It has no place for insecure bitches who like to tell others what to do and what not to.

If it "embarasses" you then that's fine by me. You be like that.



Pakistan has a lot of options. Your worry about the sorry state of your nation first. Then worry about Pakistan.

great fight over israel .

 

[Clutch]

What will be the price of this de-fanging for the world?

More drugs for you...

after turkey recognize israel pakistan has no other option.

Israel isn't a big deal. As long as there is a just resolution for the Palestinians. Israel is there to stay as well.

 

[El Sidd]

More drugs for you...

Bhang is now legal in Pakistan