JUI-F's Maulana Shirani comes out against Fazlur Rehman and voices support for israel

[Cliftonite]

To me its simple
Jinnah said no..
Had he been quiet on this there would have been a possibility but jinnah saying no..is a no

If you're going to make your foreign policy by the circumstances of 1940s, kudos to your intelligence. Exactly why Pakistan has become static.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

To me its simple
Jinnah said no..
Had he been quiet on this there would have been a possibility but jinnah saying no..is a no

Jinnah would have changed his mind had he known what the Palestinians were really about:

 

[El Sidd]

If you're going to make your foreign policy by the circumstances of 1940s, kudos to your intelligence. Exactly why Pakistan has become static.

What has changed since then?

 

[Cliftonite]

What has changed since then?

We lost our eastern wing. Israel has become much powerful and us much weaker.

 

[El Sidd]

We lost our eastern wing. Israel has become much powerful and us much weaker.

So you thought MM Alam would live forever or that Eastern Wing held secrets to undo the world?

Israel's position in a multi polar world is weaker than it was during the 40s.

Jinnah held the position that creation of states by demographic changes forced upon by outsiders is a recipe for disaster not for peace.

Pakistani intellectuals with their attempt to paint a political issue as a religious one is not helping her diplomatic mission to the world as set by her forefather.

 

[Cliftonite]

Jinnah held the position that creation of states by demographic changes forced upon by outsiders is a recipe for disaster not for peace.

USA, Canada, Brazil and Australia would beg to disagree.

Pakistani intellectuals with their attempt to paint a political issue as a religious one is not helping her diplomatic mission to the world as set by her forefather

If it's a political issue that makes it even more inconsequential. What benefit will a tiny state 3000 miles away from us on the shores of the Mediterranean bring to us?

 

[ziaulislam]

If you're going to make your foreign policy by the circumstances of 1940s, kudos to your intelligence. Exactly why Pakistan has become static.

Static better then creating another mess that will put us back 10 years

 

[Cliftonite]

Static better then creating another mess that will put us back 10 years

My oh my. How will it take us back 10 years? Will hordes of Palestinians descend upon us? Or will Israel declare war on us after normalization and send Mossad to infiltrate our ranks (hmmm I'm pretty sure it can do that better when we don't have diplomatic relations).


I guess that's what happens when a state's foreign policy is dictated by conspiracy theories and religious dogma.

 

[El Sidd]

What benefit will a tiny state 3000 miles away from us on the shores of the Mediterranean bring to us?

But accepting that illegitimate state even on Mars present opportunities for malice in Pakistan.

Its political suicide.

My oh my. How will it take us back 10 years? Will hordes of Palestinians descend upon us? Or will Israel declare war on us after normalization and send Mossad to infiltrate our ranks (hmmm I'm pretty sure it can do that better when we don't have diplomatic relations).


I guess that's what happens when a state's foreign policy is dictated by conspiracy theories and religious dogma.

Pakistan might declare war on Israel. Last FM threatened to nuke Israel.

Also Magis of the East will become even more empowered.

 

[Cliftonite]

Pakistan might declare war on Israel. Last FM threatened to nuke Israel.

Also Magis of the East will become even more empowered

Why the hate against Magis to the West though? Heartbreak from Pirouza of Tehran?

But accepting that illegitimate state even on Mars present opportunities for malice in Pakistan.

Its political suicide.

Who says it's illegitimate? The world thinks it's legitimate and it's a world leader in science and technology and everything else of substance that matters.

 

[ziaulislam]

My oh my. How will it take us back 10 years? Will hordes of Palestinians descend upon us? Or will Israel declare war on us after normalization and send Mossad to infiltrate our ranks (hmmm I'm pretty sure it can do that better when we don't have diplomatic relations).


I guess that's what happens when a state's foreign policy is dictated by conspiracy theories and religious dogma.

The same way getting involved in afghanistan took us 20 years back

 

[El Sidd]

Heartbreak from Pirouza of Tehran?

Or Pirouz of Delhi

Who says it's illegitimate?

Jinnah. Man responsible for your economic migration from the East.

 

[MastanKhan]

Anyone who thinks that the Turkish-Israeli relations are normal is a utter fool. They don't know what reality is...

Reality is Erdogan schooling Ariel Sharon at the World Economic Forum....those who don't know about Ariel Sharon don't know what they're talking about...

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Hi,

I wish some of the pakistani generals and air marshalls had the back bone of Gen Sharon.

 

[RoadRunner401]

Some of them have woken up to reality---. Turkey has recognized israel---so has egypt---and so have the arabs---.

So you are saying these Mullahs were sleeping for last 70 some years and waiting for their middle eastern gods to give them a sign.

 

[MastanKhan]

So you mean to say that by having relations with Israel Pakistan will overnight become so much powerful and rich and Pakistanis will be playing in gold

Hi,

That is a silly comment---. Destruction comes very fast but to build a nation is a slow process.

It will give pakistan breathing room to maintain and manage its position.