JUI-F's Maulana Shirani comes out against Fazlur Rehman and voices support for israel

[Cliftonite]

Jinnah. Man responsible for your economic migration from the East.

I never migrated. I was born here. Jus soli as determined by Jinnah. Allah Buksh Soomro might resent it but Jinnah was on the same page with economic migration from the East.

Or Pirouz of Delhi

Pity. But we're talking about your discomfort bordering on obsession with the Pirouza to the West of Zahedan. Some tryst gone wrong perhaps?

 

[El Sidd]

Pity

are you denying Mushraffs efforts for normalization with Israel under pretext of enlightened moderation?

Jinnah was on the same page with economic migration from the East.

Not at the price of Kashmir.

 

[Cliftonite]

are you denying Mushraffs efforts for normalization with Israel under pretext of enlightened moderation?

We call him Pirouz the economic migrant from the East.

Pity that he couldn't go through with it. He was ahead of his time with that idea. Don't worry you guys will come around to his idea eventually.

 

[MastanKhan]

So you are saying these Mullahs were sleeping for last 70 some years and waiting for their middle eastern gods to give them a sign.

Hi,

One day you yourself will find something enlightening---of tactical strategy and gainfulness in your personal endeavors for a better economy for you and your family---and you would not be rejecting that---.

Nations under duress and calamity need to survive first and foremost---. Allah has given us brains to think and act in a proper manner---one who lives thru the tyrrany of today would be able to find his position of value and strength tomorrow---.

 

[El Sidd]

We call him Pirouz the economic migrant from the East.

Pity that he couldn't go through with it. He was ahead of his time with that idea. Don't worry you guys will come around to his idea eventually.

You should atleast free him from that Arab jail he in.

 

[Cliftonite]

You should atleast free him from that Arab jail he in.

He is happy there.

 

[El Sidd]

He is happy there.

No he is not.

Courts have declared him a traitor and government who has all his former aides as ministers refuse to carry out the court's oders

 

[Cliftonite]

No he is not.

Courts have declared him a traitor and government who has all his former aides as ministers refuse to carry out the court's oders

Hire more dutiful sons of the soil ministers next time. Economic migrants can be sneaky.

 

[El Sidd]

Hire more dutiful sons of the soil ministers next time. Economic migrants can be sneaky.

They always are.

Most of the businesses run by the elites involve India and Indians one way or the other.

Just don't tell fake peers of the government that their secret are not safe anymore.

 

[MastanKhan]

are you denying Mushraffs efforts for normalization with Israel under pretext of enlightened moderation?

Not at the price of Kashmir.

Hi,

Where does Kashmir fit into the picture---.

Kashmir has nothing to do with Israel---. That is a sabotage done by the enemy agents and you have fallen for it---.

Kashmir is an independent issue and nothing to do with Israel---.

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

Okay. Whatever floats your boat Mr Tinfoil Hat.


I love how Islamist Pakistanis such as yourself have a propensity to speak for Turks like you're one of them. We used to have quite a few Turkish members here on PDF until Astagfirullah Halime baji fanboys like you drove them out of here with your Ottoman fanboying. You don't speak for them dude. Get yourself some awareness.


The Turkish population is vastly accepting of Israel. Turkey and Israel have huge covert ties in defence and trade. Erdogan throws a bone every now and then to his conservative base in Anatolia but even he would never screw things up with Israel.


Do yourself a favor and stop spouting Haqeeqat TV level idiotic conspiracy theories.

You seem rather too sure of yourself...

Poll: Turkish people dislike Israel slightly more than ISIS, Hezbollah, Hamas

86% of Turks have negative view of Israel, according to Pew Research Center poll.

www.haaretz.com

Turkish people are overwhelmingly anti Israel. There has been a protracted effort in recent months to bring Turkiye back in the orbit... Azerbaycan playing it's dirty part. Anti Israel feelings transcend party lines, twice as many people hate Israel than those who support AK party.
Which means fuse is very short when it comes to things going sour in no time.

There is geopolitics at play as well... where Greeks are being used to bait Turkiye and Egyptians doing their antics every once in a while(though we can easily assume who stands in which camp, but it does buy you more time).
I do still think that Azerbaycan is a Trojan horse and all it's utility is in opening doors.

 

[Cliftonite]

You seem rather too sure of yourself...

Poll: Turkish people dislike Israel slightly more than ISIS, Hezbollah, Hamas

86% of Turks have negative view of Israel, according to Pew Research Center poll.

www.haaretz.com

Turkish people are overwhelmingly anti Israel. There has been a protracted effort in recent months to bring Turkiye back in the orbit... Azerbaycan playing it's dirty part. Anti Israel feelings transcend party lines, twice as many people hate Israel than those who support AK party.
Which means fuse is very short when it comes to things going sour in no time.

There is geopolitics at play as well... where Greeks are being used to bait Turkiye and Egyptians doing their antics every once in a while(though we can easily assume who stands in which camp, but it does buy you more time).
I do still think that Azerbaycan is a Trojan horse and all it's utility is in opening doors.

Yeah the flotilla incident then the drone embargo. But that is still outweighed by the trade between the two countries.

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

Yeah the flotilla incident then the drone embargo. But that is still outweighed by the trade between the two countries.

Turkiye continues to be the largest investor in Gaza and largest recipient of immigration from Gaza... maintains cordial relations with PA and Hamas and a volatile one with Israel. Even the trade currently favors Turkiye, where Israel doesn't have much they can export except some military hardware and upgrade of older systems. Which again have limited utility in coming years as they're replaced with Turkish origin equipment.

 

[Mujahid Memon]

Hi,

That is a silly comment---. Destruction comes very fast but to build a nation is a slow process.

It will give pakistan breathing room to maintain and manage its position.

Why is Israel so much important? Pardon me but they are a very small insigficant country of just 8m population. I don't consider them gods like some members here.

 

[El Sidd]

Hi,

Where does Kashmir fit into the picture---.

Kashmir has nothing to do with Israel---. That is a sabotage done by the enemy agents and you have fallen for it---.

Kashmir is an independent issue and nothing to do with Israel---.

Kashmir fits when India uses Israeli weapons and communication devices.

Kashmir fits when Indian State carries out demographic changes in the disputed valley.

Kashmir mentioned in this thread came forth due to discussion on economic migration and Indo Pak relations as seen by the founding father of the country who wished the ties to be that of US and Canada although Canadians don't really have other options but to play along with the US.