Jordan Pilot Burned Alive By ISIS

[Mosamania]

ok first of all الله يرحمه و جميع اموات المسلمين

second i want to analyze and break things down. for those who don't know what that means. it simply means im analyzing the incidents and facts not giving opinions. no emotions.

the arab states have made a huge strategic mistake by entering this war. now i know they are not that stupid so something happened that we dont know about forced them to go into this war. or at least forced some countries and other countries joined willingly.

why do i say that ?

in 2005 or 2006 almost all governments and ppl knew al qaeda plans. it was said publicly on tv and many reports were written about and leaders commented on it.
the plan was divided into stages. one of those stages was make the arab governments join the fight against muslims.
by doing so al qaeda will recruit more ppl have more supporters and sympathizers. and will show the world that arab leaders are killing muslims and helping the west. now remember that was 10 years ago. they even had a time frame for this plan and we are exactly in it. i know its shocking! but their plan worked and i think america wanted to capitalize on that plan. or actually i know they wanted cuz they mentioned that in their reports. they called it a sunni sunni war. meaning the liberal against the fundamentalist

so when the arab nations said they will join forces i knew that they ate the bait. both baits. the american bait and their goal was not to make this look like another western war against muslims so they needed muslim nations joining in.
and alqaeda bait which is islamic state today. i mentioned above.
that day i predicted some events and it happened. terrorist attacks in countries including UAE and saudi. and increase in the number of IS recruitments. and a wide division in the muslims society concerning the involvement of the air force. cuz basically they would be doing the job for america and syria and iran.
and all this happened. we can see it very clear.
of course each nation had its own plan but it happened

i blame the jordanian government for not trading him with the girl. specially that she will be executed tomorrow thats very stupid. but i personally think america pressured jordan not to accept the trade. i think jordanian government didnt mind but americans refused. thats the logical answer for me otherwise they are stupid.

@Falcon29 the MB has a direct line and involvement with qaeda and IS. this is not my opinion its a fact. i cant teach you MB history in a forum but you have to do your own research. its not a secret im sure you will find many information if you made proper research.

@Serpentine you iranians are directly responsible for this and every muslim blood. dont stick your dirty rat nose here. i swear to god iran will pay the price. except for those who are against your government. when we meet and we will meet inshallah iranians will curse the day they were born. just wait.

Jordan said they are ready to trade, but ISIS already executed him a month ago, Jordanian government did everything right. Fighting ISIS will be remembered as the right thing to do, mark my words.

 

[Rakan.SA]

i just want to add that america refused the trade cuz they knew if IS executed the pilot it will serve their goals. and the division will grow wider among muslims in jordan and it would spark a movement in jordan against IS.

Jordan said they are ready to trade, but ISIS already executed him a month ago, Jordanian government did everything right. Fighting ISIS will be remembered as the right thing to do, mark my words.

its not about fighting ISIS or not. its a matter of HOW

 

[beast89]

King Abdullah is in america at a time like this, not surprised.

ٌRIP, for the pilot.

Now for Mr, Mesomania and his kind they are always sectarians and they will always be!!!. When those vermins were killing Iraqis I asure you he was cheering but now when they lost some of their men they start crying. Hypocrisy.

Blackeagle was posting ISIS vids attacking SAA back in the day

 

[1000]

I don't trust the people screaming "Hussein's men come for you you nasebiah" theor sectsrianism means that they are painting all Sunnis as ISIS, their words enough show that they and ISIS are two sides of the same coin.

Forces on the front will always use what motivates them, the middle east being religious will mean religious motivation. Have you not seen video's in Syria where the moderate opposition as they call it call themselves the army of muhammad saying they're coming for a certain group ? You trust them though.

What do you think Jews think when they say 'khaybar ya yahood'.

They and ISIS aren't the same, those are cheap attempts which will fail as they don't commit the same acts. Houthis in Yemen aren't massacring people either, we don't see beheadings or blood baths caused by them. Meanwhile AQAP is blowing up civillians, houthis, Yemeni security forces and the list won't end.

You can cheer for the death of Iraqi Sunnis all you want but I will never do so, doesn't matter of Iraqi Sunnis or shia civilians.

You shouldn't forget you were cheering in June whilst Sunnis were being massacred.

I support the execution of ISIS and it's fifth column ( those who house them, feed them and inform them ), they are effectively part of ISIS as without them they would be incapable of operating, that incapability can be seen in Southern Iraq.

However Sunnis only reason to not revolt against ISIS is because they brought nothing new, just another fascist sectarian ideology.

They're revolting but they have to be pushed and given proper opportunity, as you can see in the Iraq thread a man in his 60's killed 7 ISIS after his sons got killed by them. That's another example of a beneficial outcome when ISIS targets it's own religious group ( Sunnis ) as I stated before, why else would you be against them ?

 

[Falcon29]

ok first of all الله يرحمه و جميع اموات المسلمين

Completely agree here.

second i want to analyze and break things down. for those who don't know what that means. it simply means im analyzing the incidents and facts not giving opinions. no emotions.

Let's both do that.

the arab states have made a huge strategic mistake by entering this war. now i know they are not that stupid so something happened that we dont know about forced them to go into this war. or at least forced some countries and other countries joined willingly.

I agree here as well, it can even be said US wanted Arab states to join in order to get them stuck into a mess. Always remember that US administration is largely run by Zionist Jews. And Zionist Jews views are clear. They want the worst possible for all Arabs. That isn't the confusing part. The confusing part is trying to decipher what is going on and who is right or wrong. This situation today is very complex. It's better we point out what's happening rather than accuse so and so of bearing responsibility. But, some things that occurred were clear. Such as war on MB. There is no confusion there.

You are confused as well on some of it. It is tragedy. So we all need to abandon secterian feelings right now. Even if there are still some from both sides. Ignore them.

that day i predicted some events and it happened. terrorist attacks in countries including UAE and saudi. and increase in the number of IS recruitments. and a wide division in the muslims society concerning the involvement of the air force. cuz basically they would be doing the job for america and syria and iran.
and all this happened. we can see it very clear.

You're confusing me, are you saying terrorist attacks will occur in UAE/Saudi? Okay I understand that part....but doing job for Iran and US? Let me explain in short.This whole plot was to weaken significanlty MB and Iranian 'Resistance' axis. Then to try goading them while they're weak to submit to Israel and be saved. If you don't submit to Israel behind closed doors then the war won't end against you. This is why MB is still demonized to this day and it's only started. Because they will never submit to Israel. However, it can be said that Assad himself may have decided its better route to be safe and appease Israel/West in one way or another.

@Falcon29 the MB has a direct line and involvement with qaeda and IS. this is not my opinion its a fact. i cant teach you MB history in a forum but you have to do your own research. its not a secret im sure you will find many information if you made proper research

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Buddy I am much more educated than you on what's happening in Arab world and who is right and wrong. MB is defintely most innocent in all what's occuring in Arab world today.

What is clear is that we don't truly understand the plot in region. And we keep changing our opinions.Which is fine, and expected because this is clearly confusing situation. From now on we should avoid inflaming things, if certain players in region still want to go ahead with their plans then so be it. Let them and will affect them in end.

 

[Rakan.SA]

@Mosamania btw we have been fighting them in saudi anyways. forget the names ISIS or IS or qaeda. we have been doing this for years. im talking about the air strikes and the level of involvement. dont forget america has its own plans in the region and already sat down with iran and stabbed us in the back. so strategically it was wrong i think. we are not here to clean their shit and mess. saudi said whats going to happen in iraq and warned the world but no one listened. same thing with syria. so if the air strikes are not going to involve assad why are we in ?
america now has a direct line with the houthis so whats in it for us ?! they are making deals with shia and iran since 2001 i dont see why we got involved that way ? i mean the air force. we could have don things in another way

 

[Barakah]

King Abdullah is in america at a time like this, not surprised.



Blackeagle was posting ISIS vids attacking SAA back in the day

Regarding abdullah I read he cancelled his trip?
As for ur second para I remeber that too.

 

[Mrc]

Speechless. Scum must be exterminated...
My condolences

 

[Serpentine]

@Serpentine you iranians are directly responsible for this and every muslim blood. dont stick your dirty rat nose here. i swear to god iran will pay the price. except for those who are against your government. when we meet and we will meet inshallah iranians will curse the day they were born. just wait

Lol, okay.

 

[Falcon29]

@Mosamania btw we have been fighting them in saudi anyways. forget the names ISIS or IS or qaeda. we have been doing this for years. im talking about the air strikes and the level of involvement. dont forget america has its own plans in the region and already sat down with iran and stabbed us in the back. so strategically it was wrong i think. we are not here to clean their shit and mess. saudi said whats going to happen in iraq and warned the world but no one listened. same thing with syria. so if the air strikes are not going to involve assad why are we in ?
america now has a direct line with the houthis so whats in it for us ?! they are making deals with shia and iran since 2001 i dont see why we got involved that way ? i mean the air force. we could have don things in another way

No Arab leadership is capable of leading us out of this with victory. It is either we are closely approaching emergence of Mahdi(since he will lead us when we need it most). And if Mahdi doesn't emerge in the near future then scholars need to do some explaining. Or else many will leave their religion.

 

[al-Hasani]

@Mosamania btw we have been fighting them in saudi anyways. forget the names ISIS or IS or qaeda. we have been doing this for years. im talking about the air strikes and the level of involvement. dont forget america has its own plans in the region and already sat down with iran and stabbed us in the back. so strategically it was wrong i think. we are not here to clean their shit and mess. saudi said whats going to happen in iraq and warned the world but no one listened. same thing with syria. so if the air strikes are not going to involve assad why are we in ?
america now has a direct line with the houthis so whats in it for us ?! they are making deals with shia and iran since 2001 i dont see why we got involved that way ? i mean the air force. we could have don things in another way

Let us wait and see.

Just remember this. KSA is a too important and influential player for the West or East to lose. Don't forget that KSA is home to Hijaz. The most holy of lands for 1.6 billion Muslims. Located in the middle of the ME and home to one of the biggest natural wealths on the planet.

Unrest in KSA as seen in next door Iraq, Yemen and Syria will be the end for the region. It will be catastrophic.

Just understand that Daesh is acting against the interests of us Arabs and Sunni Muslims. Whenever there is chaos they are present. Never for the benefit of us as a people or our region but always the opposite.

Did you know that Al-Qaeda is a creation of the US? They created Al-Qaeda at a university in Nebraska. AQ has been infiltrated a long time ago. The same with Daesh. MB too.

All those groups main aim is to control KSA but they will fail.

There is no other option than extermination Saudi Arabian style brother. I suggest that we start tomorrow.

The Farsis and their Mullah dogs will be dealt with afterwards.

 

[beast89]

Lol, okay.

Rakan SA is a legend, read his posts about KSA overcoming a conspiracy and preventing a shia-sunni greater war

 

[Gazi]

RIP Soldier...

After this incident now is the best time for Arab Peninsula and Jordanian Military to actually make a combined attack against ISIS....This will not only provide them Experience of war but also boost their efforts in forming Arab peninsular countries alliance...These ISIS are weaker then before and Kurdish Gains from North is also making them further weak....I think now is the best time for act otherwise all their weaponry would be considered useless and their efforts of building broader Arab block would also take time...

 

[Rakan.SA]

Completely agree here.


Let's both do that.


I agree here as well, it can even be said US wanted Arab states to join in order to get them stuck into a mess. Always remember that US administration is largely run by Zionist Jews. And Zionist Jews views are clear. They want the worst possible for all Arabs. That isn't the confusing part. The confusing part is trying to decipher what is going on and who is right or wrong. This situation today is very complex. It's better we point out what's happening rather than accuse so and so of bearing responsibility. But, some things that occurred were clear. Such as war on MB. There is no confusion there.

You are confused as well on some of it. It is tragedy. So we all need to abandon secterian feelings right now. Even if there are still some from both sides. Ignore them.



You're confusing me, are you saying terrorist attacks will occur in UAE/Saudi? Okay I understand that part....but doing job for Iran and US? Let me explain in short.This whole plot was to weaken significanlty MB and Iranian 'Resistance' axis. Then to try goading them while they're weak to submit to Israel and be saved. If you don't submit to Israel behind closed doors then the war won't end against you. This is why MB is still demonized to this day and it's only started. Because they will never submit to Israel. However, it can be said that Assad himself may have decided its better route to be safe and appease Israel/West in one way or another.

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Buddy I am much more educated than you on what's happening in Arab world and who is right and wrong. MB is defintely most innocent in all what's occuring in Arab world today.

What is clear is that we don't truly understand the plot in region. And we keep changing our opinions.Which is fine, and expected because this is clearly confusing situation. From now on we should avoid inflaming things, if certain players in region still want to go ahead with their plans then so be it. Let them and will affect them in end.

if you are much more educated than me in this matter please tell me how did the problem start between america and saudi regarding egypt ? america backed the MB.. then when sisi came america and saudi had a huge disagreement. saudi announced from france that it will help egypt financially and the problem with US got worse, so if america was plotting against the MB why this problem happened between saudi and america regarding egypt ?!

 

[beast89]

Regarding abdullah I read he cancelled his trip?
As for ur second para I remeber that too.

He cut it short but still decided to leave the country at a crucial time. Rather talk to senators then speak to affected family when needed