Do you realize while criticizing Azad for being a showman you are actually asking for the same "showman"ship from India by asking us what names we have kept for our weapons ?
And I'm damn sure if we had indeed kept some Islamic names then that would have been dismissed as "showmanship". Either way you people will say the same.
We dont indulge in gimmicks like Pakistan by naming our weapons after looters/invaders who did nothing but pillage our territory...Abdali, Babur, AL khalid..seriously ? Babur in his babur nama gloats how he made a mountain of skulls from the pashtuns (in present day Afg-Pak) he killed on his way to India..should we also indulge in the same act ?
What is wrong in Muslims themselves identifying with the pre-Islamic past ? Did you people suddenly jump into this land with the arrival of MBQ.. Do you even understand that some are nothing but the Sanskrit names of the elements of nature ? This is why I respect the Iranians amongst all the Muslims...they dont strive for an artificial identity and their primary identity is Persian/Iranian...next comes muslim or whatever...Ask a Iranian Muslim who he respects more - Nader Shah (a Muslim) or Cyrus (a kuffar)....unanimously they will answer Cyrus and the Iranians still curse the Arabs for destroying their beautiful culture and religion..
p.s.: Anyway for your info the Mi-35 Hind is named Akbar in the IAF, if it soothes anything for you.
Frankly,there is no need to convince you of anything. That 50% of the Muslims rejected the "vision" of Jinnah is proof alone of its shallowness.
p.s: Personally I am a supporter of Jinnah's policies and I thank god he won against Congress.
UP politics is one of the MOST pro-Muslim in India and if he thinks he is sidetracked then his political acumen sucks and he should consider retiring giving ground for more capable players...No offence..
p.s.: Regarding Kerala..they are not majority there..they make up of 22% of the population...not much difference from the 19% in UP.
That is BS and I am tired of exposing it.
Go read yourself about the 1000 years buffalo manure yourself..
Hint : the Delhi sultanates started in 1206 and the Mughals breathed their last in 1756 or 1757.
And even in between they maintained their rule over North and Central India only by alliance with a the Hindu kingdoms like Rajputs and not by crushing anyone...they tried crushing the Marathas and were shown their true place.
Its not about names.. its about ownership.. representation.
Singular show boys do nothing.. Naming the mi-35 akbar does show some ownership of that part of history.
a 1000 years or not.. its there...
Those people whom you call looters and plunders(which all invaders are FYI..ranjit singh left little stones unturned in his invasion of the northwest)..are still a part of the Muslim section of Indian history. Specifically targeting only Muslims as looters and plunderers among all those that came into India.. interesting.
So in other words.. even though the Aryan religion and Hinduism itself was an invasion on this land.. only Islam qualifies as alien to it and therefore liable for ejection.. I see where this links up perfectly to the whole mess in the first place.
50% of Muslims did what? rejected what? lets see.. Two large independent Muslim majorities in Pakistan and Bangladesh... did they reject the idea that Muslims and Hindu's cannot exist as politically significant powers?..I think not. Bangladesh is one example of where Muslims are tolerant and able to integrate with a significant Hindu population..
So apparently only the opposite is not possible.. that Political Hinduism is intolerant of another major Politically active religion?
UP politics are pro-Muslim.... but as I mentioned before.. pro-anything but actual bargaining power.
The "cant own property but are welcome on rent" doctrine.
Where does that pro-Muslim political force translate into actual ownership of Islam as part of the state's culture?
Man, you got your wish; your own country! Good luck & from the tenor of your posts, good riddance! Now kindly stop pissing on the graves of our heroes. Move on...we get it... you don't believe in all the "hindu-muslim unity" stuff. Fine ! Make your country whatever you want, leave us to our & Azad's "delusions". I'm glad your leaders were great otherwise we would still be having this cancerous growth within us. I have no illusions of an united India that could have survived. While we may not accept the concept of the 2NT, we realise that we could have the India we wanted only & only when you chaps separated. So, it worked out best for all of us -for the ones who believed in Azad & the ones who believed in Jinnah. Whatever connections existed in the past, they don't anymore, some 65 years after the separation. We like our constitution & the nature of our state however flawed & untenable you think it is. Azad is our hero, we could not care less what you chaps thought of him .
Hey you came here.. registered here with us.
We tolerate all your BS on our country.. so suck it up and tolerate this.
Like you have done in Pakistan? By totally suppressing the Hindus?
And now you are forced to assume that the other side has to have the same low standards and the same sense of morality (or lack thereof).
They are suppressed.. but then their numbers dont count.. and we are already listed as an Islamic country while you guys wave the banner of secularism like you invented it.
We admit we are bigoted.. but your hiding your double standards on the guise of "show boats" has to be pointed out.
Wasnt there the issue of Low Muslim representation in the Military..
So if Muslims were really cared for.. Id suppose the political setup would work to bring their standards up.
An Azim Premji or A.R Rehman does not effect the ones having to wash clothes in slums.
There are showboats here.. why hide yours under the guise of "its really all ok here".