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Azad like most indian "muslims" would rather kiss the feet of hindus than side with a Muslim from their neighboring country to the North-west.
Thank you Quaid-e-Azam for Pakistan.
Pakistan Zindabad.
He taught you a lesson like his predecessors that you guys are just all talk, stopped you in your tracks and gave you a reality check, he was no bandit anyone that beats you guys is a barbarian or a bandit.
One must remember that 64 years since Pakistan & India's independence, Pakistan has been doing better than India in 45+ years in all socioeconomic, development indicators. Even today, despite being in the forefront on the WOT, Pakistan is doing better than India in many socioeconomic indicators. Where Pakistan is today is not because of what Jinnah envisaged for Pakistan, but because Pakistan did completely opposite of that.
Bhai, leave us alone.
Don't compare! We are fed up. We have nothing to do with each other now.
Just move on.
Bhai, leave us alone.
Don't compare! We are fed up. We have nothing to do with each other now.
Just move on.
The minorities are increasing because the majority has increased exponentially at the same time.
They simply had more kids.. quite simple to guess... the same is why Muslims in India grew.. they just made more kids.
Not sure how that is relavent..
FYI ..Islamic republic vs Secular republic.
in 71 Bangladeshis were killed.. simple as that. Muslims and Hindus.. off course your country used the Hindu card to create more Hindu militants.. so basically India made sure more Hindus were killed..
Yes Pakistan has.. its an Islamic republic under Mullah's.. not Jinnah's vision anyway.
No.. He was too busy trying to croon the Vande Mataram more than his neighbors.. while the other party members stick to their normal expression of party language and banners.. his must include an Indian flag to prove loyalty... as do all other Muslim candidates.. Kind of funny as to how he has to be more Indian than the average Indian.. most of his cousins are living in much larger properties.. enjoying the good life...who.. did not actually migrate in 47..
they came in around the 50's and 60's.. after they saw that India wasnt delivering on its promises.
Perhaps this family is only anomaly .. while other Muslims have prospered?
But apart fromt the fact that Lucknow is a really shitty place.. I found very little prosperity in that Muslim majority.
And here is the even weirder stuff.. this family.. this household.. were extreme supporters of congress and Nehru.
My great grandfather was a close friend of Mr Nehru.. those who could walk into the PM's office.
Ran a daily urdu back then.. which eventually closed down...
Now if these people.. who were part of those that rooted for India... end up like this..
Something is going wrong then..
Your(and apparently others) whole tirade is on why I as a Pakistan am not qualified to speak..rather than actually giving me say a link to reports of Muslims Financial status on average.. representaion.. etc.
"you cant talk about us since you are in the shitter too"
And thats it.. that's all you got?
We have moved on Vinod - we are on PDF debating. The infatuation and fascination is with respect the other way round. This thread is the ultimate example of the "Indian obsession".
Reading the posts earlier on the span of Indian logic is truly widespread - even finding it necessary to bring in 1971.
We have certainly moved on and trust me judging be some Indian posts - its obvious the in depth obsession they have is stronger than ever with our nation.
Firstly, define "secular". That's an attribute of the state & not of individuals. Individual failures cannot be necessarily held up as the failure of the basic model. There is nothing in the Indian constitution which inherently discriminates against minorities of any type.
Azad or no Azad, British took over the land that was governed by the mughals, they named it British India, they ruled it for 200 years and as they left they gave independence to Pakistan and what was to become India.
Pakistan gained its independence first and India a day later, Mr Azad and his kind chose their fate and place in history and so did jinnah.
Jinnah wasn't the only person fighting for Pakistan, great like choudry rehmat are brushed under the carpet, being with Pakistan doesn't mean being with jinnah.
My love and loyalty for Pakistan is not because of jinnah as i have my own quaid, people wanted Pakistan and jinnah succeeded if people didn't want it would never happened.
Mr azad i hope can see his people being discriminated against, their place of worships destroyed, hoses burnt, men and women set on fire, labelled as dalit converts non martial race. If we saw that he would have changed his name from azad to ghulam.
Epic , just EPIC !
Bhai, leave us alone.
Don't compare! We are fed up. We have nothing to do with each other now.
Just move on.
You represent nether Hindus or Muslims