Jihad unlimited: Does Kashmir need a military response or a political one?

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

There was no takfiri ideology in Kashmir prior to 2007(save for one odd radicalised nut, the frequency of such idiots was less than say Hyderabad, which could have been considered having some radicalised people). What you are referring to is the communal disharmony which was the result of the state policy of the British and had nothing to do with MA Jinnah, he himself opposed it but used it only seeing the attitude of JL Nehru and MK Gandhi in order to gain power, and the present situation can be attributed to this continuation of divisive politics in the subcontinent.

The takfiri ideology is the hallmark of the Wahabi sect, wherein they term any and everyone (it holds for Muslims) who oppose them as kafir . The problem of Kashmir today is less to do with 'azadi' and more to do with the undercurrents in the society after a decade of unbridled Saudi money wielding its influence on the poor masses there. The situation has been handled so shoddily in the political sense that India has been found wanting in strengthening the response at grassroots to reverse the perception of the Kashmiris in the valley. It is this aspect that needs correction to achieve long term gains.

I think we cannot ignore the role of Jamaat e Islam in all of this- although they might not have much popular support- But their ideological backing were one the main reasons for the developing situation then-

I would quote Its founder-

"If an Islamic society consciously resolves not to accept the sharia, and decides to enact its own constitution and laws or borrow them from any other source in disregard of the sharia, such a society breaks its contract with God and forfeits its right to be called 'Islamic.'"

What we most of the time do is ignore these crucial developments and try dissecting and analyzing the surface and scratch our head again and again to see where It went wrong without coming to proper conclusion-

I am not too sure about that. My view, from what I have read so far, and corroborated by the views of a former Chief Secretary of J&K (I think they are called Principal Secretary these days), a Sikh gentleman whose thoughts and opinions I value on par with those of Niaz Sahib, or of Oscar, is that there was a definite pattern of development, in parallel with the INC effort to create movements in the princely states, an effort that was aborted in most places elsewhere. The most successful, as far as I know, was that in Kashmir, where the Muslim Conference (later re-named, in a significant act of secular and political ecumenism, the National Conference) took the lead.But we can discuss this further, if you wish. I have to deliver an essay to @salarsikander on the development of J&K, and that should take me till early tomorrow; after that?

I am no expert on this issue like you- and my knowledge comes with reading the likes you people from various sources and others- I agree there were developments in different princely states and It was natural suddenly people start seeing opportunities which helped the movements to be of significance in political sphere- It is these movements which needs to be looked into the case of Kashmir- Not only before independence but much before that and at the beginning of Sikh empire-

What intrigues me the most is that Aligarh Graduates which were more secular and advocates of modernized Islam and changing with time- were more separatists than the Deoband Graduates who were fundamental at core- And Its rather amazing to see the fundamental Graduates advocating proper methods to be followed when dealing with disputes for example Jamaat was totally against tribal fighting in Kashmir and declared only the state of Pakistan and Its proper army had the right to wage Jihad while Jinnah was absolutely okay with It- Perhaps the seculars were opportunists but they definitely fed on fundamentalist ideas and the core of their movement was driven by fundamental ideas-

Yes, I read that, and felt VERY hopeful, it is a good first step, but the training will determine if they are to become colourless paramilitaries or genuine bulwarks for the local police against forces bent on destroying order and then destroying law.

The CRPF are reportedly to be trained in counter-insurgency. Typical, stupid American-police style reaction, making their bloody SWAT teams when their basic policing is so bad and so racist. Here, too, SWAT teams will be completely useless, and an infringement into the territory of the RR and the Special Forces, who should be left alone to do what they do very well. If an RR parallel is sought in the north-east, let the three eminent forces of yester-year receive healing attention: the Eastern Frontier Rifles, as a reserve force, operating out of western West Bengal, and with jurisdiction (subject to law and order being on the States' List of subjects) over Bengal, Bihar, Odisha, Jharkhand and Chhatisgarh; the Assam Rifles, responsible for Arunachal and Assam; the Manipur Rifles, responsible for the lower states among the seven sisters, except Nagaland. Both the Assam Rifles and the Manipur Rifles need to be sensitised first.

The CRPF needs to be positioned between these and the local police, not including the local armed police. They need to be specially trained in what the Green Berets derisively (and wrongly) called winning the hearts and minds of people; almost every successful counter-insurgency leader in India has warned earnestly and long about the need to set right conditions that lead to insurgency in the first place, and they have never been heeded by New Delhi.

A new CRPF needs to be very different from the old. They need to be armed, sufficient to hold off company strength attacks by insurgents in Chhatisgarh, Jharkhand and Odisha, but they need training, most of all. Both hard training and soft training.

Hard training would include crowd control, management of religious institutions (like the Gorakhpur Math, or Deoband) and their followers in armed mobs or in violent mood, management of NGOs, who inspire violence, management of disturbed localities, where injecting the RR and the Army with AFSPA is far too extreme a step, and simple, infantry tactics to defend against massed Maoist attacks.

Training in law, especially constitutional law, educating them about the limits of authority and about the inalienable rights of citizens; training in psychology, including and especially the psychology of adolescents; training in immersive re-education, to de-toxify brainwashed kids (and adults); training in the literature relating to each particular insurgency, for instance, into the literature relating to historical developments, such as the British treatment of the State of Bastar, in the years before independence, the post-independence history of Bastar, the views of the tribals of the former Bastar state (which is a significant part of Chhatisgarh), into administrative history for the area, legislation and special enactments, especially as relating to forest rights, when dealing with the Jharkhand and Chhatisgarh regions.

This means that we are looking at a new level of recruitment, educated young people, not farmers' sons joining because it is tradition, or due to poverty. We are looking at new specialisations, appropriate to the occasion.

What you are suggesting is practically impossible- we would need graduates and post graduates as constables- I think proper step is being taken by recruiting locals and de-militarization of Kashmir- and I hope the situation develops by 2020 so that state police could take responsibilities of majority of residential areas- It will happen- and these agitations and sudden spike in the violence only aims at delaying that process-

Also the constables are village boys and farmer's son would do what their sahib tells them to do- So It is the sahab which we need to look into- tighten the screws of Sahibs and we'll see better results and some discipline-

 

[Hellfire]

I think we cannot ignore the role of Jamaat e Islam in all of this- although they might not have much popular support- But their ideological backing were one the main reasons for the developing situation then-

I would quote Its founder-

"If an Islamic society consciously resolves not to accept the sharia, and decides to enact its own constitution and laws or borrow them from any other source in disregard of the sharia, such a society breaks its contract with God and forfeits its right to be called 'Islamic.'"

What we most of the time do is ignore these crucial developments and try dissecting and analyzing the surface and scratch our head again and again to see where It went wrong without coming to proper conclusion-

What you have quoted is a minority view held in isolation, a view which our neighbours would love to gain traction int the mainstream.

There are two ways to deal with such ideologies - ignore them (and they tend to die out in a society as vibrant and versatile as the Kashmiri society, which is sensitive to threat from such ideologies) or to encourage the opposite ideology. Beyond that, I would not be saying much.

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

What you have quoted is a minority view held in isolation, a view which our neighbours would love to gain traction int the mainstream.

There are two ways to deal with such ideologies - ignore them (and they tend to die out in a society as vibrant and versatile as the Kashmiri society, which is sensitive to threat from such ideologies) or to encourage the opposite ideology. Beyond that, I would not be saying much.

For once lets take our neighbor out of this- We stand to gain much more If we play the same PR against our neighbor and they have already lost much more in Just one decade thanks to such PR- So lets ignore our neighbor and focus on our own-

These ideologies cannot be ignored we can choose to do so but the separatists and the terrorists actually built upon these PR- and develop takfeeri culture- While I agree taking open action may produce undesired results but grooming local culture and opposite ideology which is local and more appealing would be a welcome step- But the media in Kashmir is somewhat resisting this- and educated, liberal class of India choose to ignore this including Indian media- How are we supposed to tackle the issue in such an environment-

 

[Assange]

Attaching this to let some people know what percentage of people what freedom from India