Joe Shearer
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What are your views on dismissal of sheikh abdullah in 1953?
Ouch.
You really like seeing people in boiling water, don't you?
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What are your views on dismissal of sheikh abdullah in 1953?
Separatists don't come from Mars. They are thriving because they have considerable support among common people. What I said is not a quick fix solution, there isn't one. But over time, in 5-10 years if you are able to slowly change the mindset of the people and eat into their support base things may change. Burhan Wani was popular because he ran a propaganda campaign well, we need to do the same thing in the other direction.
Thanks. I was actually a part of that group when I had FB but I deleted my FB profile a few months ago.
Separatists don't come from Mars. They are thriving because they have considerable support among common people. What I said is not a quick fix solution, there isn't one. But over time, in 5-10 years if you are able to slowly change the mindset of the people and eat into their support base things may change. Burhan Wani was popular because he ran a propaganda campaign well, we need to do the same thing in the other direction.
was there any truth in the conspiracy allegations?Ouch.
You really like seeing people in boiling water, don't you?
We also need genuine economic development. Just throwing money at the Kashmiri government and hoping that they will use it properly is a joke that has gone on too long.
Why should we trap our selves in a straight jacket by FIXING a time line
Let it take 100 years ; why the hurry -- we have all the time in the world
Other than Pakistan - no country cares for Kashmir
Pakistan NEEDS a face saving exit from this Kashmir imbroglio
Learn from The Chinese ; they have stabilised Tibet and Xinjiang with brute force
Did the Chinese Govt say a WORD on Kashmir recently
Look at the Russians what they did in Ukraine
Only power matters in this world
was there any truth in the conspiracy allegations?
was there any truth in the conspiracy allegations?
If it happened today, the Supreme Court would have marched across physically and jumped on the perpetrator's balls - collectively.
Why should we trap our selves in a straight jacket by FIXING a time line
Let it take 100 years ; why the hurry -- we have all the time in the world
Other than Pakistan - no country cares for Kashmir
Pakistan NEEDS a face saving exit from this Kashmir imbroglio
Learn from The Chinese ; they have stabilised Tibet and Xinjiang with brute force
Did the Chinese Govt say a WORD on Kashmir recently
Look at the Russians what they did in Ukraine
Only power matters in this world
Separatists don't come from Mars. They are thriving because they have considerable support among common people. What I said is not a quick fix solution, there isn't one. But over time, in 5-10 years if you are able to slowly change the mindset of the people and eat into their support base things may change. Burhan Wani was popular because he ran a propaganda campaign well, we need to do the same thing in the other direction.
I was referring to the terrorists who kill our armed forces and are hell bound on driving all Hindus from Kashmir which is historically a Hindu area.. I don't think they deserve mercy unless they surrender and give up arms.. We can live with them, why can't they live with us? Anywhere they are in majority they try to ethnic cleanse the infidels..I don't think anybody is saying that the state should abdicate its duty to maintain itself, and to protect people from the law of the wild. What is being said is that our own citizens deserve compassion and kindness, to use the Hon'ble CJI's phrase, even when they are acting less than mature and sensible, and even when they are transgressors of the law of the land.
these converted hindu pundits descendants need a zarbe azb type operation as they are longing for it for such a long time !Here is a another point of view.
http://indianexpress.com/article/op...-attack-burhan-wani-kashmir-protests-2918817/
Fifth Column: Every time the Valley explodes, experts emerge to pronounce in ponderous tones that we need to find a ‘political solution’ instead of just a military one.
Written by Tavleen Singh | Updated: July 17, 2016 8:12 am
Nearly every video of Burhan Wani shows him affirming that his fight is for Islam. (Express Photo by Shuaib Masoodi)
Within hours of the attack in Nice, the President of France acknowledged that it was an act of Islamist terror. I consider this an important detail to begin this week’s column with because it is my view that a failure to acknowledge what is really happening in the Kashmir valley is the main reason why we get no closer to finding a political solution. The armed struggle for ‘azaadi’ that began in the last days of 1989, when Yasin Malik and his comrades kidnapped Mehbooba Mufti’s sister, was secular in nature and was a mistaken but sincere attempt to win freedom for Kashmir. This movement was subsumed long ago by jihadi terrorism planned by groups who took their orders from Pakistan’s ISI. These groups fought under the banner of Islam. Nearly every video of Burhan Wani shows him affirming that his fight is for Islam. When he was killed on July 8, the first people to commemorate him as a martyr were Hafiz Saeed and Syed Salahuddin.
Wani belonged to the Hizbul Mujahideen that the ISI formed in the early Nineties with the specific purpose of taking over the ‘azaadi’ movement from the JKLF (Jammu Kashmir Liberation Front). The nature of the movement changed. On Srinagar’s streets suddenly appeared bearded young men who forcibly closed bars, cinemas and video shops. These same fanatics then targeted women who did not cover their faces, and soon emerged zealots like Asiya Andrabi of the Dukhtaran-e-Millat, who not only covers her whole face but wears black gloves so that no hint of female flesh is visible. These changes were dramatic and sudden. They did not happen gradually, but to this day, most Indian commentators continue to be in denial mode.
Is it just me or have you noticed that nobody yet links the violence in Kashmir to the worldwide jihad? In Srinagar last summer when I first heard of Burhan Wani, people talked of him with reverence but without mentioning that his fight was not just for ‘azaadi’ but for Islam. Like his Islamist brothers across the Muslim world, his videos show him saying this in clear terms. The thousands who attended his funeral indicate that in death he remains Kashmir’s biggest hero. So has Islamism put down deep, deep roots? If it has, what should we be doing about it? Can we do anything about it if we continue to deny that it is not freedom from India that the Kashmiris now want but their own little Islamic state?
Every time the Valley explodes, experts emerge to pronounce in ponderous tones that we need to find a ‘political solution’ instead of just a military one. Yes. Everyone knows this. What nobody seems to know is what this political solution could be and if it is even possible to think about political solutions when angry, young Kashmiris hate India enough to risk their lives by attacking armed security personnel. Is a political solution possible as long as Pakistan continues to back jihadists? There is no point in pretending that this did not happen again this time. Synchronised attacks on police stations indicate a degree of planning that is well beyond the strategic capacity of school children and angry young men.
What should worry policymakers in Delhi and Srinagar is why Burhan Wani’s message finds such resonance. What should worry the Prime Minister is that two years of his term have gone by without the smallest indication that his government has a new policy to deal with the changed nature of our oldest political problem. Personally I had hoped that Narendra Modi would open a new chapter in Kashmir by making it completely clear that there will never be ‘azaadi’, and that once this is accepted, we can begin to talk of other things.
Far too many young Kashmiris believe, as Burhan Wani did, that all it needs is for them to continue stoning Indian soldiers and security personnel and this will result in independence. This idea is supported from across the border by men like Hafiz Saeed who rave on about how Allah is on their side and so victory is automatic.
Burhan Wani was so important an asset for Pakistan’s jihad against India that his death was brought up at the United Nations last week. He was described by Pakistan’s representative to the UN as a Kashmiri ‘leader’ who was killed by extra-judicial means. This is as absurd as if Tunisia was to claim that the killing of the man who drove that killing machine of a truck in Nice amounts to a human rights violation. Burhan Wani was a jihadi terrorist who in one of his last videos urged ordinary Kashmiris to stay away from soldiers and policemen because ‘we can attack them at any time’. Should there be a military response to this or a political one?