JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 7]

[TheTallGuy]

something is cooking

Writing is on the wall...its just matter of when

 

[Aliph Ahmed]

Aircraft fly with weapon loads all the time, and there is no way again to tell from this picture if they live weapons or just dummy/training rounds.

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There is.

The ones painted blue are dummies

 

[Hawk_Pakistani]

Aren't there supposed to be fully loaded flying hours which pilots have to do?
It would explain fully loaded JF-17's carrying Ground bombs.

 

[The Eagle]

Having shelf life doesn’t mean they won’t be used... WVRs are always / mostly loaded just in case...


2xPL-5, 2xGBU-10, 2 Drop Tanks

I assume an SPJ on center-line; would be a devastating load out like no other day.

 

[StormBreaker]

I assume an SPJ on center-line; would be a devastating load out like no other day.

Send in 10 such loaded Thunders, Judgement day will seem less of a hell !!!

 

[GriffinsRule]

There is.

The ones painted blue are dummies

Yes I know, but I was talking specifically in the context of the image posted. Can you can tell the color of the weapons in the picture?

 

[Aliph Ahmed]

Yes I know, but I was talking specifically in the context of the image posted. Can you can tell the color of the weapons in the picture?

Yes. White. Zoom in please. Thank you

 

[Adam_Khan]

View media item 18193
Today I saw 3 JF-17's descending and was interested in knowing the ammo/load they were carrying on the hard points.

It's carrying two Gbu.12's which is the 500 pound version of the LGB,probably might be carrying a centreline LDP as well.

Got curious as to why fully armed fighters were flying (as air-to-air missiles have shelf life)

View media item 18193
Today I saw 3 JF-17's descending and was interested in knowing the ammo/load they were carrying on the hard points.

Got curious as to why fully armed fighters were flying (as air-to-air missiles have shelf life)

It's carrying two Gbu.12's which is the 500 pound version of the LGB,probably might be carrying a centreline LDP as well.

 

[NA71]

Does the combination of JF-17 Block3 and PL-15 in China exceed Rafale and Meteor?

The advantage of the Indian Air Force by the introduction of the fighter Rafale is that the Pakistan's enemy, Pakistan, has greatly enhanced the performance of the fighter JF-17 Block 3 (capacity improvement type) and the air-to-air missile "PL-15" equipped with the aircraft He pointed out the possibility of being lost by procurement, and exacerbated the sense of crisis.

India with 36 4.5th-generation Rafale fighters from France, and the Indian Air Force has acknowledged that it is the best fighter in the country, but at the same time has introduced the Rafale fighter. Reveals that the only technical advantage gained by the Indian Air Force is the sensor mounted on Rafale (RBE2) and the weapons system (air-to-air missile Meteor), and that its advantage over Pakistan will be temporary. showed that.

Chinese media reported that the first flight of JF-17 Block3 was successful. The technology used in China's 5th generation stealth fighter `` J-20 '' was diverted for the development of Block 3 of the aircraft, and it may show performance equal to or better than the 4.5th generation aircraft in the west is there.

The specifications of JF-17 Block3 that have been known so far are equipped with a larger holographic wide-angle head-up display and a large cockpit display than those adopted for the J-20, and mounted on the J-10 and J-16 Adopting the infrared search and tracking system (IRST), missile warning device, newly developed AESA-type radar and engine, and redesigning the fuselage and succeeding in reducing the radar reflection cross section The development company, Chengdu Aircraft Industry (Group), calls the aircraft "pseudo stealth aircraft".

In short, the Indian Air Force has determined that the aircraft performance of the fighter `` JF-17 Block 3 '' that Pakistan will introduce sooner or later is `` equal to or better than Rafal '', and China that the U.S. Air Force is concerned about Equipped with the PL-15 air-to-air missile or the PL-21, which has recently been deployed by some units, it is likely that the combination of Rafale and Meteor will lose its superiority.

The PL-15 is similar in size to the AIM-120, but the propulsion energy is made more efficient by dividing the solid fuel for propulsion into acceleration and cruise, and the range is reduced by reducing the size of the stable wings and the weight of the material compared to the old PL-12. China's own air-to-air missile for out-of-sight combat that has been able to significantly extend the range, it is said that the range is at least 150 km or more, and there are several sources that estimate the range from 180 km to 200 km .

In addition, the PL-15 seeker uses the same active phased array system as the Japanese AAM-4B. Compared to the old PL-12, the seeker's detection distance is 5 times and the unavoidable zone is more than 3 times. It is also possible to constantly update target information based on information supplied from other platforms such as mother aircraft and early warning aircraft even after launch like -120D, and when the PL-15 first appeared in 2015, US Pacific Air Force commander General Herbert Carlisle has expressed concern that it is a "very dangerous weapon."

At this time, the only air-to-air missile in the west that can compete with the PL-15 is Meteor, but it is questioned whether even that Meteor has a clear advantage over PL-15, but the problem is that China The PL-21, which is said to exceed -15, has begun to be deployed to some units.

There are lots of unknowns about the PL-21, but it seems that the top speed will reach Mach 5.0 at least with the same ramjet as Meetia. Moreover, the range is expected to be 250-300 km longer than the PL-15, and if such missiles are exported to Pakistan and integrated into JF-17 Block3, they are no longer in the hands of the Indian Air Force.

Therefore, the Indian Air Force said, `` If the politicians had military foresight, the SU-30MKI fighter might have been equipped with Russian long-range air-to-air missiles by now, '' costing about $ 8 billion Criticized the ongoing introduction of Rafale.

https://grandfleet.info/military-news/india-loses-dominance-over-jf-17-block3/

 

[LKJ86]

The development company, Chengdu Aircraft Industry (Group), calls the aircraft "pseudo stealth aircraft".

There is no such claim from China.

 

[NA71]

There is no such claim from China.

Chinese article I found and translated for PDF members.

Another similar article appeared today "
Why Pakistani JF-17 thunder poses a serious threat to Indian Rafale Jets!
https://south-asian-monitor.com/en/...-poses-a-serious-threat-to-indian-rafale-jets

 

[LKJ86]

Chinese article I found and translated for PDF members.

Which one?

 

[NA71]

Source link was provided in the post. Here it is:
https://grandfleet.info/military-news/india-loses-dominance-over-jf-17-block3/

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Adopting the infrared search and tracking system (IRST), missile warning device, newly developed AESA-type radar and engine

IRST will be there on the front and which new engine? RD 93MA?

 

[LKJ86]

Source link was provided in the post. Here it is:
https://grandfleet.info/military-news/india-loses-dominance-over-jf-17-block3/

It is Japanese.