JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 7]

[khanasifm]

Max take off is now almost 30k lbs and max external load almost 9500lbs or 4300 kg plus

Look foreword to block 3 with following configuration
11 stations , 4 each on wings plus centerline and two on intake like f-16 plus internal fuel capacity increased by another 500-700 lbs


Total fuel 5135 lb internal and 800x1 plus 2x 1100 liters external

So 3000 liter internal plus another 3000 liters external for 6000 liter or 10k lbs

 

[Tempest II]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1124284536790093824

 

[HRK]

is turn rate same as instantaneous turn rate

this 26.0 degree/sec turn rate I think is instantaneous turn rate, sustain turn rate should be in the range of 19-21 degree/sec

 

[CriticalThought]

this 26.0 degree/sec turn rate I think is instantaneous turn rate, sustain turn rate should be in the range of 19-21 degree/sec

As an example, the ITR of a delta wing such as Mirage 2K can be as large as 45 degree/sec. An STR of 26 per second is very competitive and quite likely.

 

[Tempest II]

As an example, the ITR of a delta wing such as Mirage 2K can be as large as 45 degree/sec. An STR of 26 per second is very competitive and quite likely.

The fact that the poster does not define the turn rate leaves you thinking. I.e. they don't say of it is max, ITR, STR. I think it is on purpose that they are telling half the story

 

[CriticalThought]

The fact that the poster does not define the turn rate leaves you thinking. I.e. they don't say of it is max, ITR, STR. I think it is on purpose that they are telling half the story

Actually, I was incorrect in my earlier post. It does look like ITR. @HRK my apologies.

Read here:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/red-arrows-coming-to-karachi-again.519769/page-3#post-9920185

 

[CHI RULES]

Max take off is now almost 30k lbs and max external load almost 9500lbs or 4300 kg plus

Look foreword to block 3 with following configuration
11 stations , 4 each on wings plus centerline and two on intake like f-16 plus internal fuel capacity increased by another 500-700 lbs


Total fuel 5135 lb internal and 800x1 plus 2x 1100 liters external

So 3000 liter internal plus another 3000 liters external for 6000 liter or 10k lbs

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What will be the max operational range of JF17 after above proposed changes further is it not necessary have on board oxygen generation system for longer endurance.
Do in flight refuelling already compensates the short combat radius issue.

 

[Shabi1]

What will be the max operational range of JF17 after above proposed changes further is it not necessary have on board oxygen generation system for longer endurance.
Do in flight refuelling already compensates the short combat radius issue.

JF-17 Block-2 has a french origin oxygen regeneration system.

Yes, in flight refueling adds range. And using IFR also frees up hardpoints as fuel tanks can be substituted for weapons.

 

[Deino]

Max take off is now almost 30k lbs and max external load almost 9500lbs or 4300 kg plus

Look foreword to block 3 with following configuration
11 stations , 4 each on wings plus centerline and two on intake like f-16 plus internal fuel capacity increased by another 500-700 lbs


Total fuel 5135 lb internal and 800x1 plus 2x 1100 liters external

So 3000 liter internal plus another 3000 liters external for 6000 liter or 10k lbs

View attachment 558188

That is nothing but a fan made fantasy-image, a what if ... nothing more. How of will you post it again and how often needs that to be made clear?

 

[Windjammer]

 

[Signalian]

2. More stealth features including nose redesign. Again a useless endeavour as long as we are hanging armaments on the hardpoints. The stealth features go down the drain when we do that. However whether a change like the silent eagle can be incorporated with armaments inside a concealed compartment needs to be seen. I would like to think it might be doable. Again cost benefit analysis plus availability of relevant tech remain problems. I think with PD radars JFT IS low visibilty already in frontal aspect so does the nose really need redesigning?
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Frontal RCS of F-16 Block 60 is much lower as compared to F-16 Block 52+, the nose looks a bit bigger and Block 60 houses an AESA Radar.

Max take off is now almost 30k lbs and max external load almost 9500lbs or 4300 kg plus

Look foreword to block 3 with following configuration
11 stations , 4 each on wings plus centerline and two on intake like f-16 plus internal fuel capacity increased by another 500-700 lbs


Total fuel 5135 lb internal and 800x1 plus 2x 1100 liters external

So 3000 liter internal plus another 3000 liters external for 6000 liter or 10k lbs

View attachment 558188

Of all the fan made stuff, i liked this one.

 

[syed_yusuf]

this 26.0 degree/sec turn rate I think is instantaneous turn rate, sustain turn rate should be in the range of 19-21 degree/sec

how is this number comparable to F-16 modern block or mirage 2000/ su-30mki?

 

[khanasifm]

That is nothing but a fan made fantasy-image, a what if ... nothing more. How of will you post it again and how often needs that to be made clear?

Free world and as many time I want

Have a good day

 

[Deino]

Free world and as many time I want

Have a good day

Yes for sure, but I would like to prevent that you would be too much disappointed or even become depressed after the true Block 3 came out as a simple evolutional design just like a regular single seater not with more hard points, larger wings, bigger engine, standard radome albeit with an AESA, ...

But like you said, anyone is free to even wrong expectations... but at least I can tell some newbies not to fall into your trap f wrong expectations.

Have a nice day too.

 

[HRK]

how is this number comparable to F-16 modern block or mirage 2000/ su-30mki?

comparatively equal to F-16
1- https://defenseissues.net/2014/01/11/comparing-modern-western-fighters/
2- http://topolo.free.fr/Compare/Rafale vs Typhoon.pdf
3- https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2016/11/boeing-and-saab-are-making-fighter-that.html
4- Interesting comparative video