JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 7]

[Raider 21]

Changing the engine oil 

No sir. It is getting prepared for a parade.

 

[Dreamer.]

were those 12 inducted yet? any more blk2 being slated?

If the block-3 configuration is finalized and can enter production in a reasonable timeframe, I'd say making any more block-2's would be a mistake. Even if those block-2's have the new air-cooled AESA (LKF601E) from china it would still be inferior to the block-3. So why waste money on that now when a better version is available?

Better to focus on export orders and JF-17B in the meantime. Unless there is a major delay to block-3 of course.

 

[BERKEKHAN2]

DCS JF-17

 

[Kompromat]

Let's set this baby up. @Oscar

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[BERKEKHAN2]

Let's set this baby up. @Oscar

Not yet released

 

[Army research]

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My plan in life as of now is the sum up enough money to build a pc able to withstand this beast of a simulator

 

[denel]

If the block-3 configuration is finalized and can enter production in a reasonable timeframe, I'd say making any more block-2's would be a mistake. Even if those block-2's have the new air-cooled AESA (LKF601E) from china it would still be inferior to the block-3. So why waste money on that now when a better version is available?

Better to focus on export orders and JF-17B in the meantime. Unless there is a major delay to block-3 of course.

Friend. context was about the prior last extra orders given. Nothing new is being done on Blk2s. I am sure there will be a lifecycle upgrade to bring up to similar levels but not yet; the air cooled AESA is still too premature to go for at present. Let there be lessons learned from the first set of Blk3s where it will be used and that can be used to feedback for the respective upgrades. Never jump with unknowns is always the motto. Present radars on Blk1/2 are fine; what is needed is HMDS with pl-10 or a-darter; again a matter of priorities in terms of upgrades - nice to haves vs must haves.

 

[Dreamer.]

the air cooled AESA is still too premature to go for at present. Let there be lessons learned from the first set of Blk3s where it will be used and that can be used to feedback for the respective upgrades.

As far as the air cooled AESA is concerned it might not be used in block-3 as I think it is only an option for upgrading older models. For block-3 it is likely to be one of two KLJ7A versions. (the one with side arrays and the one without).
The air cooled aesa under discussion for block-2 is the LKF601E which is different. Obviously PAF will thoroughly test it first before making any decision.

 

[SQ8]

Let's set this baby up. @Oscar

This product is in limbo for now.

 

[denel]

As far as the air cooled AESA is concerned it might not be used in block-3 as I think it is only an option for upgrading older models. For block-3 it is likely to be one of two KLJ7A versions. (the one with side arrays and the one without).
The air cooled aesa under discussion for block-2 is the LKF601E which is different. Obviously PAF will thoroughly test it first before making any decision.

yes air cooled is for retrofit.

 

[araz]

If the block-3 configuration is finalized and can enter production in a reasonable timeframe, I'd say making any more block-2's would be a mistake. Even if those block-2's have the new air-cooled AESA (LKF601E) from china it would still be inferior to the block-3. So why waste money on that now when a better version is available?

Better to focus on export orders and JF-17B in the meantime. Unless there is a major delay to block-3 of course.

I thought this time frame was to fulfill the foreign orders and build the twin seat version. That will keep us busy till the block 3 comes on line. The small haitus would probably be used for retooling.
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[Dazzler]

Instrument landing made easy. thunder in ILS mode...

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[JohnWick]

@AsifIjaz @MastanKhan
Here Mirage 4000 case can be studied.

The decision to launch work on the production of a twin-engine aircraft concurrently with the single-engine Mirage 2000 was taken by the authorities in September 1976. Since the Mirage 4000 is a technological upgrade of the Mirage 2000 (except the front part of the aircraft which is equipped with a fixed canard ancillary wing, dismountable and adjustable in flight) – the design and construction of the two new aircraft were carried out simultaneously.

French aeronautical manufacturers self-financed the development of the Mirage 4000 in particular Avions Marcel Dassault-Breguet Aviation which was responsible for the airframe and supervised the assembly phase. Jet engines were borrowed from the government under the June 21, 1978 agreement with the Minister of Defense : the Snecma M 53 engines were taken from the stock of the Mirage 2000 program.

Composite materials used in the Mirage 4000 enabled a considerable weight reduction and excellent resistance to fatigue. The Mirage 4000 was the world’s first aircraft to have a fin made from a carbon-coated composite containing petrol.
The two Snecma M 53 engines with 10-ton thrust ratings put the Mirage’s weight-to-thrust ratio above one. Its design performance, moreover, outclassed every other aircraft in its category.
It has a fuel tank capacity three times greater than that of the Mirage 2000 and can also be refueled in flight.

On March 9, 1979, one year after the delivery of the Mirage 2000, the one-seat Mirage 4000 powered with two Snecma M 53 engines flew for the first time at Istres with Jean-Marie Saget at the controls. Right from its sixth flight, the Mirage 4000 achieved Mach 2, an exceptional performance. It confirmed predictions by reaching 50,000 feet at Mach 2 in 3 min 50 secs.

The king of Saudi Arabia and the Shah of Iran were interested in the Mirage 4000 program even before its first flight. Although serious talks went on, no agreement on the sale was reached.
No order was placed for the five planned production models and commercialization abroad became very uncertain.
In December 1977, the French Air Force asked the Defense Ministry’s Aeronautical Construction Department to look into a tactical combat aircraft to replace the Jaguar. Dassault-Breguet thus began work to design the ACX/Rafale.​

Sir this thread is about jft not mirages so plz if you don't mind don't post this stuff on it.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Sir this thread is about jft not mirages so plz if you don't mind don't post this stuff on it.

That's a case study related to further development of JFT,into twin engine jet based on thunder.

 

[python-000]

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A JF-17 sits in the hangar on maintenance day at Peshawar AB.

can we convert this into this...