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There is no such thing as changing oil in jet engine just FYI
One adds whatever amount may get burn / used / leaked,
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There is no such thing as changing oil in jet engine just FYI
Th light grey is really beautiful.
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This is my Fav PAF camo, sadly its no longer in use.
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Hi,
There is no reason for a twin engine JF17---. It already exists---it is called J31----.
Now---if you want a stealth single engine---that I can understand---.
But that twin engine does not serve the same purpose as a JH7A. The JH7 can carry a very heavy load---plus it has a long flight radius---. If it can be modified to be refuelled in air---that woud be a massive force multiplier---.
A twin engine JF17 cannot carry that load---.
The most important aspect of the JH7A engine and its design is its low low flying capability plus its heavy load carrying capacity---thru its flight plan---which is a must for strike over the ocean targets---or targets on the surface of the ocean...
One of our BANNED bangladeshi colleague had done some research on why I am in favor of the JH7A came up with a wonderful / knowledgeable article on the subject matter---which I presume went over the heads of majority of the readers---.
Low flight comsumes a lots of fuel---the JH7's engines were designed for that very purpose---where they were most efficient---. The wing design of the JH7's is styled for low low flight---the JF17 is not a low flying aircraft---and neither is the F16 or the SU series---.
The F111 was the most feared aircraft by the russians---because they could not find it---. It was the ultimate low flight capable aircraft---the JH7 is a true copy of that aircraft minus the swing wings---.
Many thoughtless posters post over here that it was tested and rejected 30 years ago---. These fools don't realize that new modern standoff strike weapons have given new life to aircraft like the JH7's---.
If they did not---the world number one air force---the USAF would not have upgraded their 50 years old B52 bombers for these new tasks---to launch these weapons. And these weapons would be launched from this aircraft either thru their own mechanism or thru the assistance of stealth or surveillance aircraft---.
You have to ask a question---in weapons systems---why do americans succeed where others fail.
Their re-furbishment of the B52's to launch these modern weapons is a marvel of a modern war fighting machine---. The ability to use the B1 bombers as BVR trucks by the 5th gen aircraft is an out of the box thinking---.
That is what Pakistan needs---. It has an enemy 5 times its size and multiple times of resource---.
We South Asians suck at creativity View attachment 530299
We have been winning it for several years now.Dunno about South Asians, but we Pakistanis are pretty creative (Alhumdulillah), as I recall, Pakistan Air Force won the Royal Air International Tattoo with magnificent artwork on our C-130s.
There were news of JH7B, which was supposed to have aerial refueling capability. However it was abandoned in favor of flankers. So maybe what Pak can do is acquire a couple squadrons of secondhand JH7s as China phases them out over time and pay for minor upgrades to extend the life. Between the remaining life in Mirages and then aferwards acquiring these second hand JH7s and using those for about 10, 15 years...Hi,
There is no reason for a twin engine JF17---. It already exists---it is called J31----.
Now---if you want a stealth single engine---that I can understand---.
But that twin engine does not serve the same purpose as a JH7A. The JH7 can carry a very heavy load---plus it has a long flight radius---. If it can be modified to be refuelled in air---that woud be a massive force multiplier---.
A twin engine JF17 cannot carry that load---.
The most important aspect of the JH7A engine and its design is its low low flying capability plus its heavy load carrying capacity---thru its flight plan---which is a must for strike over the ocean targets---or targets on the surface of the ocean...
One of our BANNED bangladeshi colleague had done some research on why I am in favor of the JH7A came up with a wonderful / knowledgeable article on the subject matter---which I presume went over the heads of majority of the readers---.
Low flight comsumes a lots of fuel---the JH7's engines were designed for that very purpose---where they were most efficient---. The wing design of the JH7's is styled for low low flight---the JF17 is not a low flying aircraft---and neither is the F16 or the SU series---.
The F111 was the most feared aircraft by the russians---because they could not find it---. It was the ultimate low flight capable aircraft---the JH7 is a true copy of that aircraft minus the swing wings---.
Many thoughtless posters post over here that it was tested and rejected 30 years ago---. These fools don't realize that new modern standoff strike weapons have given new life to aircraft like the JH7's---.
If they did not---the world number one air force---the USAF would not have upgraded their 50 years old B52 bombers for these new tasks---to launch these weapons. And these weapons would be launched from this aircraft either thru their own mechanism or thru the assistance of stealth or surveillance aircraft---.
You have to ask a question---in weapons systems---why do americans succeed where others fail.
Their re-furbishment of the B52's to launch these modern weapons is a marvel of a modern war fighting machine---. The ability to use the B1 bombers as BVR trucks by the 5th gen aircraft is an out of the box thinking---.
That is what Pakistan needs---. It has an enemy 5 times its size and multiple times of resource---.
What PAF might want to do is buy 2-3 squadrons of J11 series. This is more likely than trying to bring a dead horse to life. The JH7 is dead long live JH7.There were news of JH7B, which was supposed to have aerial refueling capability. However it was abandoned in favor of flankers. So maybe what Pak can do is acquire a couple squadrons of secondhand JH7s as China phases them out over time and pay for minor upgrades to extend the life. Between the remaining life in Mirages and then aferwards acquiring these second hand JH7s and using those for about 10, 15 years...
...this approach could work until Azm is about ready to roll out.
Basically impossible. Maybe Su-35 or Su-30?What PAF might want to do is buy 2-3 squadrons of J11 series.
I was just thinking along the lines of JH7 as per Mastan's suggestion of a low flying jet for strike role. JH7's engine were based on the Spey engine made specifically for low flying, this low flying ability has its advantages to avoid radar detection. I do agree that JH7 is quite old and the Chinese have moved on. Though they might have chosen J11 over continuing with JH7 bcuz of a different doctrine, this doesn't necessarily mean Pak has no need for such a jet as JH7. However JH7 production line has ceased, which does close the door on Pak in terms of acquiring a jet for the specific purpose of low flying strike role.What PAF might want to do is buy 2-3 squadrons of J11 series. This is more likely than trying to bring a dead horse to life. The JH7 is dead long live JH7.
Hi LKJ86 why is it impossible if due to Russian factor there is always something for RussiansBasically impossible. Maybe Su-35 or Su-30?
You are wrong. JH-7E was showed in Zhuhai Airshow-2018.However JH7 production line has ceased, which does close the door on Pak in terms of acquiring a jet for the specific purpose of low flying strike role.
China Seeking To Offload Surplus Military AircraftYou are wrong. JH-7E was showed in Zhuhai Airshow-2018.
1). J-11 family fighters includes J-11, J-11A, J-11B, J-11BS, J-16, and so on. Their relationship is as follows:Hi LKJ86 why is it impossible if due to Russian factor there is always something for Russians
Also in this or any future deal you know what I mean as china can buy or they are buying su35
And always provision of using Russian engines in j11
But what I read is even j11b is not comparable to MKI as a bomb or missile truck wise
Any info on that please
What’s your intake on aligning Russians through China if PAF is looking for these fighters
Thank you