JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 6]

[DMP]

are you calling jft's dual seat variant block 3.

No ...!!!

 

[Tipu7]

No ...!!!

Can you be a bit more specific?
What is point to hurrying to Block3.....?
As per my info, AESA,IRST,HMD and all new goodies are yet to grasp. more over can you tell me total No of Blk2 produced so far.? And when Blk3 will roll out of Kamra?

@Oscar @waz @Windjammer what is this guy saying......???

 

[DMP]

Can you be a bit more specific?
What is point to hurrying to Block3.....?
As per my info, AESA,IRST,HMD and all new goodies are yet to grasp. more over can you tell me total No of Blk2 produced so far.? And when Blk3 will roll out of Kamra?

@Oscar @waz @Windjammer what is this guy saying......???

So far 20 Block II has been produced...... ok don't trust me you will see yourself i quit ...!! ALLAH HAFIZ

 

[Imran Khan]

these days its become hobby of kids to spread Rumours abut JFT

 

[Tipu7]

So far 20 Block II has been produced...... ok don't trust me you will see yourself i quit ...!! ALLAH HAFIZ

No
No Allah Hafiz
Ask you dad and those "3" people more about project and post worth sharing info here. I am not mocking you,...... just showing my surprise either believe you or not......

 

[Talha Sheikh]

it's the man behind the machine that matters.

Chaha F16 ho ya JF 17, asal bat PAF pilots ki behtreen professional training ki hai.

 

[Manticore]

So far 20 Block II has been produced...... ok don't trust me you will see yourself i quit ...!! ALLAH HAFIZ

if you have any credible sources, first ask their permission to post the info, before spilling the beans
stupid kids

 

[Viper0011.]

Block I production is finished the block I which were made will be upgraded to block II standard probably in 2018 it will be done

Sorry i can not confirm that HMD is South African or from some where else

1) Block I's have started to see upgrades too. Albeit slow, but the work is already happening and a few have been upgraded. Some serials like 10-116, 10-142 are an example of such upgrades, you'll see their pictures with SD-10's, MAR M1 and CMAKG's, etc.

2) A Chinese mounted HMD and a South African HMD is being tested. There is a European option too that might get more traction (such as Italy / Spain). But no confirmation on it yet.

 

[Dazzler]

1) Block I's have started to see upgrades too. Albeit slow, but the work is already happening and a few have been upgraded. Some serials like 10-116, 10-142 are an example of such upgrades, you'll see their pictures with SD-10's, MAR M1 and CMAKG's, etc.

2) A Chinese mounted HMD and a South African HMD is being tested. There is a European option too that might get more traction (such as Italy / Spain). But no confirmation on it yet.

The upgradation of Blk 1 to blk 2 standard gained pace back in September 2014 as they swapped the blk 2 systems and EW into most blk 1s.

 

[MAB]

Yes even I couldn't register, you need a professional email id, either from a scientific institute or any other agency. I can register based on my IIT madras email id, but not on my gmail etc.itz nothing to do with Pakistan

Please just go visit the forums there. The "professionals" you speak of openly refer to Pakistanis as "porkis" and no action is taken up on that. I feel sorry for a site which has such "professionals".

 

[barbarosa]

What I really like about these blogs(PDF in particular ) is,people with no degree in aerospace engineering are experts on aviation and allied fields

a person could not become a doctor engineer professor actor scintest at a time. an engineer is expert in his own field but he is eletrate in the field of medical. electrical engineer does not know about mechanical engineering. aironotical engineer does not know about liquid engineering but he can give suggestion or advice according to his knowledge.if we ask any question from a ( rtd 1965) pilot regarding f 16 what answer he will give us
me

jf 17 with delta wings.how shall we feel it? i think very beautiful (suggestion)

 

[fatman17]

AIR & SPACE

JF-17 Still an Option in Egypt-Pakistan Defense Cooperation Drive

By Usman Ansari

Aamir Qureshi/AFP

A Pakistani JF-17 Thunder performs during the celebrations to mark the country'’s Defence Day in Islamabad on Sept. 6. Egypt has reportedly expressed an interest in the Sino-Pakistani JF-17 Thunder.

ISLAMABAD — Despite having opted for French and Russian fighter aircraft earlier this year, Egypt has reportedly expressed an interest in the Sino-Pakistan JF-17 Thunder. This has come as a surprise to analysts who had considered the possibility of Egypt acquiring the JF-17 to be lost.

The interest comes as part of a wider push to increase defense industry cooperation between the two countries, according to a Dec. 4 news release by the Pakistani government's Press Information Department. It outlined how the Egyptian ambassador to Islamabad, Sherif Shaheen, met Pakistan's Minister for Defence Production Tanveer Hussain to discuss improving bilateral defense cooperation.

A cadet exchange program is already in place, but both sides were "looking at collaboration in defense industry as the core of relations between Pakistan and Egypt," according to the news release.

As a matter of policy, officials in Pakistan do not discuss potential defense deals until they are signed.

However, author, analyst and former Pakistani Air Force pilot Kaiser Tufail says there are two main reasons the JF-17 appeals to developing nations.

"It offers the best value for money, being one of the cheapest of the modern fighters to purchase and maintain," he said. "Its sale is not constrained by big power politics, in that it is not likely to be used as a tool for exercising leverage over the purchaser's foreign or defense policies. Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Jordan (possibly) and now Egypt are keenly eyeing the JF-17 for these reasons."

In respect to a potential Egyptian deal, author, analyst and former Australian defense attache to Islamabad Brian Cloughley believes the JF-17 has a key advantage over other fighter aircraft the Egyptians may be able to acquire.

"The Egyptians have many sources for combat aircraft, but none of those being considered for provision of advanced fighters manufacture anything like the JF-17," Cloughley said.

The Rafale and MiG-35 are larger twin-engine fighters in comparison to the JF-17, and unlike the latter are off the shelf purchases, with no local production offered for Egypt.

Analysts believe this is where the JF-17 has another advantage, and one that builds on experience.

Egypt already operates 120 Sino-Pakistani Hongdu K-8 jet trainer aircraft, the majority of which were built in Egypt by the Arab Organization for Industrialization. A similar deal for the construction of the JF-17 has been speculated since Egypt first reportedly expressed an interest in the JF-17 in 2010.

The bulk of Egypt's modern fighter fleet comprises of some 220 F-16C/Ds, but these are supported by a larger number of legacy Mirage 5, MiG-21 and Chengdu J-7 fighters. The order for 46 MiG-35s will likely replace the MiG-21s, but this leaves nearly 140 Mirage 5s and J-7s needing replacement.

As the JF-17 was designed precisely to replace these types, Tufail says it is "an excellent platform to replace the older fleet of Mirage III/5, MiG-21/F-7" and the "glitch-free induction and full operational capability of the JF-17 in the Pakistan Air Force makes a great sales pitch for export."

Likewise, Cloughley believes the JF-17 still has a good chance to secure a sizable Egyptian order but believes it is too early to be certain.

"It seems that it would be a good choice to replace the Mirages, which are very long in the tooth, but as always the detail is in the possible deal. It's too early to speculate on what mutually agreeable terms might be, but it's likely that Pakistan (and China) would come up with a tempting offer," Cloughley said.

Pakistan is accepting JF-17 Block 2 aircraft into service, of which it ordered 50. There have been some key Block 2 features such as in-flight refueling and other modifications that will be retrofitted to the Block 1 aircraft.

However, recent reports in the Chinese media have stated any export customers will be acquiring the forthcoming Block 3 that is in its final design stages. Though it is believed to feature an AESA radar, officials are tightlipped on confirming specific details, only saying the Block 3 will be a "game changer."

A two,seat, fully combat-capable variant of the JF-17 is also believed to be undergoing the final stages of testing in China before it is unveiled.

 

[Windjammer]

One very obvious and decisive improvement was apparent yesterday in JF-17's weapon load, before it was only capable to carry a single Mk84 under it's belly but with wing roots getting strengthened, it is now able to carry a 2000 pound bomb under each wing with a fuel tank under centre pylon and missiles on wing-tips. Overall JF-17 can now carry 3000 pounds more ordnance than before.

 

[Plotinium]

One very obvious and decisive improvement was apparent yesterday in JF-17's weapon load, before it was only capable to carry a single Mk84 under it's belly but with wing roots getting strengthened, it is now able to carry a 2000 pound bomb under each wing with a fuel tank under centre pylon and missiles on wing-tips. Overall JF-17 can now carry 3000 pounds more ordnance than before.

Sir, that means the potential loaded weight that a jf17 can take is being fully utilized? or is there more potential improvement that can be utilized right now?

 

[khanasifm]

Actually mk84 is only carried by f16 and jf not even mirgage carries it