JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 6]

[Maarkhoor]

I don't know if this video has been posted before, but here it is from the 2013 Dubai Air Show.

Nice video never seen before quite detailed one thank u.

 

[Khafee]

@Manticore @MaarKhoor and other respectable members.

Can someone tell me what this is?

 

[HRK]

@Manticore @MaarKhoor and other respectable members.

Can someone tell me what this is?

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30 mm GSh-30-2 Gun ....

 

[Maarkhoor]

@Manticore @MaarKhoor and other respectable members.

Can someone tell me what this is?

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Machine Gun for close air dog fight

JF-17 Thunder,GSh-23-2 twin-barrel Cannon.
Cannons were considered obsolete in the late 60's after the advent of A2A missiles.. but humbling lessons in Vietnam proved otherwise. Today with the advancement in missile tech people are again considering the usefulness of cannons in A2A combat.
However.. in the current scenario of asymmetric threats.. the cannons have proved very useful in the A2G role as well.
traditional A2A fighters such as the F-15C can also provide a show of force by strafing with their cannon.
And many sorties against the taliban ended up being conducted with strafing runs after going Winchester on other ordnance.

Two or three cannons is debatable on the need for firepower.
A single 20mm cannon is enough to tackle most A2A threats.
Dual 30mm cannons are more suited to handling larger aircraft.
The accuracy of the cannons matters as well as ammo capacity.
Russian jets like the Fulcrum and Flanker carrry much less ammo for their cannons than western counterparts.. much they claim to have much better accuracy than the former.

GSh-23L_cannon

The Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-23 (Russian: ГШ-23) is a twin-barreled 23 mm autocannon developed in the Soviet Union, primarily for military aircraft use. It entered service in 1965, replacing the earlier Nudelman-Rikhter NR-23 cannon.


GSh-23 displayed in the Egyptian Military museum
The GSh-23 works on the Gast Gun principle developed by German engineer Karl Gast of the Vorwerk company in 1916. It is a twin-barreled weapon in which the firing action of one barrel operates the mechanism of the other. It provides a much faster rate of fire for lower mechanical wear than a single-barrel weapon.

Although it cannot match the sustained rate of fire of an electric Gatling gun like the M61 Vulcan GAU, because it doesn't need to spool up, its initial rate of fire is higher. It requires no external power source to operate, but is instead powered by the recoiling of the floating barrels, somewhat like the action of the German MG-42. The Gast principle has been little used in the West, but was popular in the former Soviet Union on a variety of weapons. It is reported to be a very reliable, robust weapon easily maintained in the field.[citation needed]

The cannon comes in a basic GSh-23 variant, and the more popular GSh-23L (ГШ-23Л), differing mostly in adding a muzzle brake, lowering recoil force. This cannon was standard fit on late-model MiG-21 fighters (M, SM, MF, SMT, bis), all variants of the MiG-23, the SOKO J-22 Orao, the HAL Tejas and IAR 93, and the tail turrets of the Tupolev Tu-22M bomber and some late-model Tu-95s. In that application, it had the unusual ability to fire infrared flares and chaff rounds, allowing it to function as both a weapon and a dispenser of anti-missile countermeasures. It is also mounted on late small series Mi-24VP helicopters (in the NPPU-23 movable mounting) and Polish W-3WA Sokół helicopter in fixed mounting. The cannon was also used on cargo aircraft; specifically, Russian/Soviet Ilyushin Il-76 aircraft were designed to accommodate twin Gsh-23L's in a tail turret.[1] An Il-76M with just such a configuration could be seen at the 2002 Ivanovo airshow.[2]

Some 2nd generation MiG-21 models could carry the GSh-23L in an under-fuselage gondola designated the GP-9, carrying the cannon and 200 rounds of ammunition; this was replaced by a more streamlined semi-conformal installation in later variants. There are also several gun pods available for mounting on external hardpoints: UPK-23 for air-to-air use, with one or two fixed GSh-23 guns and 200-400 rounds of ammunition, and SPPU-22 pods with traversable barrels for strafing, from 0° to −30° and carried 280 rounds of ammunition in each (they were most often carried by the Su-17/-20/-22 as well as the Su-25/-39 in pairs).

 

[aliaselin]

 

[IrbiS]

Mk. P8 500 pounders on Dual-Ejector racks

 

[krash]

PS Tail Art by Me.

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Lala, great work but one little mistake. That animal on the tail is a Himalayan Ibex (also found in Pakistan) not a Markhor.

 

[MastanKhan]

if you are asking as will JFT blk3 be a complete 4th gen fighter - > the answer is blk 2 is also a 4th gen fighter

we expect blk3 with AESA radar and other mods to compete against 4.5 gen or close

Hi,

Man------you've been in the stealth mode all along---.

 

[fatman17]

Just a nice pic

 

[MystryMan]

The upgradation of Blk 1 to blk 2 standard gained pace back in September 2014 as they swapped the blk 2 systems and EW into most blk 1s.

Are Block 2 upgrades mostly related to software/firmware upgrade on the same hardware for Radar, EW and other electronics?
If yes then there might not be substantial cost escalation between Blk1 and Blk2.

 

[aliaselin]

 

[LonE_WolF]

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wasn't this jet suppose to have IFR probe?

 

[kalibr]

There is no doubt that JF 17 thunder look beautiful.

 

[khanasifm]

Ifr probe is add on and is added when needed and removed when not same thing for j10 I think I read some where may be one of the interview like cft under hour but cannot confirm

 

[araz]

Please dont quote anyone fromPAC without taking his prior permission. It is a dangerous thing both for you, him and our country.
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