JF-17 Block III Multirole Fighter

[ozranger]

I dont see a single Pakistani in that picture...

This an event for CCP members on the JF-17 Block III project. Certainly it can't include all the involving members on the project.

 

[Hammad ur Rehman]

In any future renderings pls. remove the protruding antennas & instead use flushed antennas as the Chinese have said about it.

Also why only initial design phase has been achieved only in October 2017? It should have been done long ago perhaps in 2015-16 enabling us to go into production phase after completing the 100th aircraft.

Now what will the PAC/PAF will do in 2018, 2019 & 2020 when it will be in production phase after design validation, prototyping & testing phases???

 

[Av8er]

Hi,

You kids just want to write about weapons without any substance or resource.

No weapons system s complete by itself---. It needs a complimentary system in place to maximize its utility.

A utility may arise from a different resource that was never anticipated before---like a smart weapon---like a standoff weapon---.

You build an F22 and an F35 and after all the rararara you find out---that the BVR missile utility is not the only solution---.

As your BVR missile has developed over the years---so has the smart weapons / standoff weapons ability has grown as well---.

Where you could launch a 250 lb smart weapon from 25 miles away 20 years ago---today you can launch a mach 5 standoff 2000 lbs weapon with a 500 lbs load from 250 miles away from an aircraft or a cruise missile as well.

Now that is where the marriage between the 5th gen stealth and the 3rd gen strike aircraft becomes inevitable.

The 5th gen aircraft will move in as close to the target as possible---lock the target and launch the standoff missile from the 3rd gen aircraft flying 250 miles away---.

Mr. Pasha---do you have any understanding of this concept yet---.

The pilot of the 3rd gen aircraft would be doing nothing---but just flying the aircraft and his weapons system would be controlled by someone else from somewhere else---and launch signal given---.

When you buy a weapon---you have to buy it to fight tomorrow's war that is coming down fast---30 / 35 years down the road is the work of a different generation---.

Seems like---most of you kids do not have any understanding of this concept---.

Care to share your credentials on matters realted to defense? How pompous, condescending and patronizing can you be?

 

[Trango Towers]

In any future renderings pls. remove the protruding antennas & instead use flushed antennas as the Chinese have said about it.

Also why only initial design phase has been achieved only in October 2017? It should have been done long ago perhaps in 2015-16 enabling us to go into production phase after completing the 100th aircraft.

Now what will the PAC/PAF will do in 2018, 2019 & 2020 when it will be in production phase after design validation, prototyping & testing phases???

They have their time frames.
Pakistan is the driver of this project and not China. We also have the larger share.
It not panorama that you fry in 30 minutes

 

[Dazzler]

Care to share your credentials on matters realted to defense? How pompous, condescending and patronizing can you be?

It is better to leave the sad soul in his perfect little world. He thinks of himself as the only person having experience of some kind.

 

[MastanKhan]

How pompous, condescending and patronizing can you be?

Hi,

Quite a bit to the incompetent & illiterate.

Why don't you step up to the plate and post something substantial---.

With your screen name---11 years on this board---you must have something to say---.

 

[Dazzler]

Hi,

Quite a bit to the incompetent & illiterate.

Why don't you step up to the plate and post something substantial---.

With your screen name---11 years on this board---you must have something to say---.

What substantial have you posted during your 11 year stay on this forum. Quote us some from your wisdom.

I am all ears.

 

[Av8er]

Hi,

Quite a bit to the incompetent & illiterate.

Why don't you step up to the plate and post something substantial---.

With your screen name---11 years on this board---you must have something to say---.

With as much garbage as you have spewed in all the time you have been on this forum and the members you have insulted, I am better off enjoying informative posts written by members who actually know a thing or two compared to your nonsense!

 

[MastanKhan]

I am not the issue here---good or bad---JF17 is the issue---don't derail the thread---.

 

[Mrc]

There should be a psych evaluation before people are allowed to post here

 

[MastanKhan]

With as much garbage as you have spewed in all the time you have been on this forum and the members you have insulted, I am better off enjoying informative posts written by members who actually know a thing or two compared to your nonsense!

The JF17 according to Pakistani Fanboys----

 

[GriffinsRule]

Hey Mastan, can you remind us what airplanes the JF-17 replaced? And what is the difference in capabilities or the new and the old.
Maybe after that you can shed light on why JF-17 is the issue, instead of one liners etc.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hey Mastan, can you remind us what airplanes the JF-17 replaced? And what is the difference in capabilities or the new and the old.
Maybe after that you can shed light on why JF-17 is the issue, instead of one liners etc.

Hi,

Thanks for asking the question.

TACTICALLY----JF17 has replaced nothing---numerically it has replaced the F7's and mirages---.

Tactically---you have to look at the strategic position of pakistan before and after 9/11---. The position of strength was lost due to the procurement of the JF17's---.

Pakistan did not need the JF17 as its prime time aircraft---PAF might have---but it was not in the best interest of Pakistan---.

The capabilities are not judged against what is being replaced on your side---but the capabilities are judged against whom you are going to fight---.

Pakistan needed a right in your face kind of aircraft---that would have made the enemy squirm scream and holler---but---come to the peace table and sign on the dotted line---.

See---when I write Pakistan & Paf---I write them seperate---. Paf constitutes of traitors---.

They slapped Pakistan and its flag in the face when yesterday gave a departing salute to the Traitor Asghar Khan---the ex Air Marshall who called india and told them his air force would not fight them---.

This is despicable---. For younger generation of this board---there should be a hue and cry over it.

 

[Vortex]

To all pakistanis brothers

JF17 is quite a big achievement for PAF and Pakistan. But we should admit that it is not a super duper jet which will kill easily ohers opponents.

If i remember correctly, the jet was said, at the start of the project, to be build on modular basis for enablng it to handle any future enhancements. But today it seems to have limited enhancements room without coastly financially and in time consuming redesigning, development and testing processes. And unfortunately, it is not the jet which will afraid enemies. Because of it capabilities against is enemies if today's and tomorrow's

Agreed it is a good start, as it bringed sme experience on jet development and technology. Without it I'm not sure if we have thought to start ACE institution, or aéronautique city/university...

Even if JF17 is flying, we should keep our feet on ground and stay in real life.

 

[ziaulislam]

Russia was humiliated, defeated and crashed in 1990s not because it didnt had ships, planes and nukes or oil and gas
because it was in debt trap..we need to understand that

by end of 1990s russia econmy shrinked so much that it was smaller than current pakistan economy