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N she is supposedly one of our top defence correspondents.....no wonder
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Ah Defence journalist. Can't find a difference between her and Random Boomer Uncle.
Everything is delayed.. Covid impact.Any news regarding 2 Block III JF-17s, PAC was supposed to build in 2020?
Only a couple of weeks left in 2020 and still no update. Even the wishlist crowd on this thread has gone quiet. Hopefully, something will be released by PAF on the upcoming first flight anniversary of Block III (15th Dec).
TBH, it has been months since Chinese gone back to their factories. Rest of the world was under lockdown while they were busy.Covid impact.
I am aware of our short comings, no body is perfect and every country has faced losses (even america, the great superpower everyone harps on about). We came close to losing, your perception of loss is off the mark. Pakistan has the practical ability to accomplish it's objectives. Yes we have had our bad turns, everyone has had them ... Europe and its countless wars, Japan and is rise n fall, america in Nam, Afghanistan, Iraq and Somalia ... britain in Afghanistan, Las Malvinas Islands and against the Zulus.
I am not much of a Patriot, at least not in the sense everyone perceives a Patriot to be. I am a Muslim first and foremost, and to me Pakistan belongs to Islam and not the other way round. I don't delve into what you define as wildly charged argument about religion or nationalism. I study my enemy, but more importantly I study my short comings and that of my country's.
Based on what I have studied, my real life experiences, my interactions with those on the ground (professionals) and the study of the current geo-political climate, it remains factual that Pakistan has come out unscathed despite all odds. And trust me when I say this, in no uncertain terms ... the odds have been heavily stacked against us for quite sometime now.n
So what I say to the detractors of Pakistan, every word is meant with practical intent and preparation.
JF-17 block 3 is not a cutting edge future technology 5th Generation fighter. any prospect customer has a long list of European, American and Russian jets (SU 35, F-16 Block 70, Rafale, Grippen NG ) that are at par or even better in terms of the technology and performance which JF-17 Block 3 (on paper and web forums) is claimed to provide.
in short, restricting the export of JF-17 Block 3 is laughable and will only get a mocking thanks from other countries for not selling them our JF-17 block 3.
In my opinion JF-17s will be bought in huge quantities by number of Air Forces in very near future.
Wow. You have time on your hands
has RD-93MA delivered to China or not?
yeh, China literally exports a superior product in the form of the J-10CE, of which the JF-17 uses avionics derived from it
N she is supposedly one of our top defence correspondents.....no wonder
Everything is delayed.. Covid impact.
TBH, it has been months since Chinese gone back to their factories. Rest of the world was under lockdown while they were busy.
No the JF-17 block 3 will use RD engine not WS-13 and WS-13 is quick copy of RD-33 rushed in case Russia blocked RD-93 from being used with JF-17 under Indian pressure.
Also the J-31 does not use WS-13 and will use something called WS-19. Already been in development for a long time and hints say the project wanted to develop engine performance similar to EJ200 or F414 but smaller and more fuel efficient.
WS-13 powered GJ-11 prototypes but I think that is it. It is not even the intended engine for any project when it reaches service. For example WS-13 maybe also powered FC-31 prototype. Anyway this engine is definitely finished now since all important projects for this power level will use WS-19. JF-17 however will use RD-93 because it is better than WS-13.
Real mystery is how RD-33 was copied. I think the main points were understood and WS-13 has some differences since we have Russian engines from soviet union times and modern engines. Maybe a few engine units purchased from other sources after soviet union break where many things were able to be bought like the test T-80 tanks the tank builder and PLA used to test Type 88 to 96 against.
- Losing half the country isn't coming out unscathed
- I see the strawman of saying hey US and UK and other super powers lost too, that doesn't really explain or justify our shortcomings. We could've and should've been better than others and being less complacent would've been a good start
- Pakistan belongs to its citizens who are Muslims, Hindus, Christians among others and I would prefer not to go deeper into this argument. .
Bless you
Thunder is about to brake delay record of Tejaa...TBH, it has been months since Chinese gone back to their factories. Rest of the world was under lockdown while they were busy.
I'am irritated....wear a mask!Ah Defence journalist. Can't find a difference between her and Random Boomer Uncle.
That's rightI'am irritated....wear a mask!
Must b the second one.
Image not clear enough to make any positive identification. But by judging the length of the canopy I would say it seems to be a "Bravo".