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Japan’s fear of China

South Korea do have land dispute with China. They want to claim the whole Changbai Shan as part of Korea. But hatre against Japan takes first priority over anything.
That's imaginary dispute
It's true. Many were forced to convert and others were either killed or fled. My own grandfather managed to escape from the massacre of his entire village. I don't know if there were other survivors,sites about the genocide report that the entire population was killed,but my grandfather managed to escape.

There are also cryptochristians (typically muslims but orthodox christians in secret) but their number of course is not known.
Greek is a miracle. Centuries under Muslims rule and it wasn't Islamized
 
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1. There are only two safe waterways from China's coastal waters to the Pacific Ocean. One is the bus Strait near Huangyan Island, and the other is the Hakone Strait near Diaoyu Island.

2. In 1895, Japan occupied the Diaoyu Islands of the Qing Dynasty. 1943, <Cairo Declaration>. In 1945, <Potsdam Proclamation>. The anti fascist alliance agreed to return the Diaoyu Islands to China after the war.

3. Japan has the third largest GDP in the world and has strong manufacturing and financial capital. They have a population of more than 100 million and a homogeneous and united nation. If such a country gets rid of the control of the USA, it has enough ability to divide China's influence in East Asia.

4. China is seizing Japan's market in high-end machine tools, automobile manufacturing, precision instruments, semiconductor raw materials and other industries. The USA is also cracking down on Japanese manufacturing.

5. China is not ready for the collapse of the dollar system. The USA can let Japan buy a lot of U.S. debt to support the dollar system.

6. China can accept reconciliation with Japan's left-wing govt, but we don't trust the right-wing govt.


This is not the best time to achieve reconciliation with Japan and change its attitude towards Japan. We are willing to wait for the USA to continue to weaken Japan.
Maybe when the left-wing govt of Japan comes to power, we can help them achieve independence.

Premier Li Hongzhang submitted report on Japan to the Qing government in 1889 . The report titled You li Riben tu jing,it listed those islands as Japanese territory .The report was submitted in 1889 to the court was approved and published,that was before 1995.

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Regardless of all these power politics,what I simply hope for is patch up between China & Japan,because in case of war between China & Japan,the winner will be US ,and their tribe of west swarming like vultures to swoop in and take advantage of weak Asia. China and Japan will never be the same again ,and the fall out might leverage US in a position that will be impossible to catch up,and during that leverage period if they get hold of breakthrough tech ,akin to when Trueman got his atomic bomb,US will surely try to superimpose their non-relinquishable hegemony on the world.

None would take the anglosaxons and their crimiinal allies from the west lightly,their brain are wired differently ,they commited invasion and colonization on their own accord,when situation turns overwhelmingly opportunistic,they might not hestite to try and relive their self perceived glorydays all overgain.




I never say south Korea don't hate or jealous of China. But if US ask SK to combine forces with Japan to attack China. They will never compiled.

South Korea will rather attack Japan first than working with them against China.

US don't even care about the hatre between SK and Japan. They just want to make sure their dog do his bidding.. But obviously, SK are not willing to be US dog like Japan.
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You are underestimating the growth of anti chinese hysteria in korea.A huge`portion of korean worship jesus,they celebrate christmass and halloween with same enthusiasm like any American,they worship anything revered in west -western media-western songs-movies ,awards,and western acknowledgement .They see it as being global.
The reaction of knetz toward a chinese-canadian kpop idol wearing mask with "love china":
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These Koreans gladly followed US in Vietnam war just like Australia did in Afghanistan,and IMO,it's the korean army not the Japanese, that has unrefutable proof of committing the massacre & rape of large scale like whole villages.

Korea is too dependent on China economically to go to war against china on behalf of US,Japan is not a fool and has huge restraint will at most provide support , based on treaty,but not go to war on behalf of US ,unless China china tries to claim the contested islands by force.
 
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Premier Li Hongzhang submitted report on Japan to the Qing government in 1889 . The report titled You li Riben tu jing,it listed those islands as Japanese territory .The report was submitted in 1889 to the court was approved and published,that was before 1995.

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Regardless of all these power politics,what I simply hope for is patch up between China & Japan,because in case of war between China & Japan,the winner will be US ,and their tribe of west swarming like vultures to swoop in and take advantage of weak Asia. China and Japan will never be the same again ,and the fall out might leverage US in a position that will be impossible to catch up,and during that leverage period if they get hold of breakthrough tech ,akin to when Trueman got his atomic bomb,US will surely try to superimpose their non-relinquishable hegemony on the world.

None would take the anglosaxons and their crimiinal allies from the west lightly,their brain are wired differently ,they commited invasion and colonization on their own accord,when situation turns overwhelmingly opportunistic,they might not hestite to try and relive their self perceived glorydays all overgain.




I never say south Korea don't hate or jealous of China. But if US ask SK to combine forces with Japan to attack China. They will never compiled.

South Korea will rather attack Japan first than working with them against China.

US don't even care about the hatre between SK and Japan. They just want to make sure their dog do his bidding.. But obviously, SK are not willing to be US dog like Japan.
You are underestimating the growth of anti chinese hysteria in korea.A huge`portion of korean worship jesus,they celebrate christmass and halloween with same enthusiasm like any American,they worship anything revered in west -western media-western songs-movies ,awards,and western acknowledgement .They see it as being global.
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These Koreans gladly followed US in Vietnam war just like Australia did in Afghanistan,and IMO,it's the korean army not the Japanese, that has unrefutable proof of committing the massacre & rape of large scale like whole villages.

Korea is too dependent on China economically to go to war against china on behalf of US,Japan is not a fool and has huge restraint will at most provide support ,based on treaty,but not go to war on behalf of US ,unless China china tries to claim the islands by force.
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The Koreans are very devoted people. That means they try their best to serve and emulate those that they see are in power. When China was the hegemon, the Koreans were the most devoted vassal state and emulated Chinese customs to the point where they were more Confucian than China. With the Americans, the Koreans are emulating America to the point where they are becoming even more fervent Christians and more obsessed with pop culture than the Americans.

If China somehow becomes a hegemon again, the pendulum will swing the other way.
 
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It's true. Many were forced to convert and others were either killed or fled. My own grandfather managed to escape from the massacre of his entire village. I don't know if there were other survivors,sites about the genocide report that the entire population was killed,but my grandfather managed to escape.

There are also cryptochristians (typically muslims but orthodox christians in secret) but their number of course is not known.

Can i ask where your grandfather was from?
 
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The Koreans are very devoted people. That means they try their best to serve and emulate those that they see are in power. When China was the hegemon, the Koreans were the most devoted vassal state and emulated Chinese customs to the point where they were more Confucian than China. With the Americans, the Koreans are emulating America to the point where they are becoming even more fervent Christians and more obsessed with pop culture than the Americans.

If China somehow becomes a hegemon again, the pendulum will swing the other way.

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^Koreans in the street of Seoul celebrating Japan's advance in China (1941) .Koreans were more proud of Japan than the Japanese themselves.

Korea now antagonize Japan based on the comfortwoman issue,meanhile , Professor Ahn Byong Jik of Seoul National University discovered a diary written by a Korean comfort station manager. The diary contains accounts of Korean owners wire transferring profit they made from operating comfort stations. The diary also mentions that whenever comfort stations needed more women, Korean owners used their agents to recruit women,he confirms that Korean comfort women were recruited by Korean comfort station owners, not by the Japanese military.
the following is the list of comfort stations mentioned in the diary. The owners were all Korean although they had Japanese surnames. In Shanghai where Korean women worked. The owners were all Korean as well.

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Korea was like swing nation.

But right now Korea is highly developed,its softpower almost surpasses even US ,atleast on internet,the world is obsessed with their pop music,drama,movie,Netflix shows,cosmetics and beauty.China has a lot to do to smitten Korea.Should start by overtaking US in economy ,entertainment industry,military.
 
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^Koreans in the street of Seoul celebrating Japan's advance in China (1941) .Koreans were more proud of Japan than the Japanese themselves.

Korea now antagonize Japan based on the comfortwoman issue,meanhile , Professor Ahn Byong Jik of Seoul National University discovered a diary written by a Korean comfort station manager. The diary contains accounts of Korean owners wire transferring profit they made from operating comfort stations. The diary also mentions that whenever comfort stations needed more women, Korean owners used their agents to recruit women,he confirms that Korean comfort women were recruited by Korean comfort station owners, not by the Japanese military.
the following is the list of comfort stations mentioned in the diary. The owners were all Korean although they had Japanese surnames. In Shanghai where Korean women worked. The owners were all Korean as well.

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Korea was like swing nation.

But right now Korea is highly developed,its softpower almost surpasses even US ,atleast on internet,the world is obsessed with their pop,drama,Netflix shows.China has a lot to do to impress Korea.Should start by overtaking US in economy ,entertainment industry,military.
The Koreans should shut up. They misuse the comfort women as a tool. Korea intend is clear, to tarnish the reputation of Japan for economic and political gains. Koreans forget their war crimes in Vietnam. it’s really a joke.
 
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Can i ask where your grandfather was from?
My uncle wrote my grandfather's (his father's) story and some information about my grandmother's family as well,on a notebook and sent it to me some years ago.He describes the massacre at the village's church with detail.

My grandfather's family were Greeks from Gumushane (Argyroupoli) of Pontos,but after the mines ran out,many greeks left and went other places.

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This is the website from where I got the screenshot. https://www.greek-genocide.net/
They way my uncle describes what happened,the dates and events,as my grandfather told him decades and decades ago,matches the information on the site.
 
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My uncle wrote my grandfather's (his father's) story and some information about my grandmother's family as well,on a notebook and sent it to me some years ago.He describes the massacre at the village's church with detail.

My grandfather's family were Greeks from Gumushane (Argyroupoli) of Pontos,but after the mines ran out,many greeks left and went other places.

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This is the website from where I got the screenshot. https://www.greek-genocide.net/
They way my uncle describes what happened,the dates and events,as my grandfather told him decades and decades ago,matches the information on the site.

Im sorry man. I know no family who doesnt have relatives who suffered so much in that cruel times. One of my great grandmothers is from Smyrni.
 
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Yea,it's self defeating,that's why US is the world's prominent power,with undisputed softpower,military and economic might,and things will remain the same unless China remakes itself as a nation more deserving of a state capable of underpinning the US ,with rectitude and capabilities. China would gladly suck US & UK toes,and undergo worship of the west but not bear to even take the smallest of slight from a nation they once felt were lower then them in the pecking order,their poor arrogance was shattered,and they still feel vitriol about that. Better worship anglo-white than acknowledge the prominence of so called yellow folk across the straight. No wonder the western tribe cut up China .

If China would gladly suck US & UK toe, then there would not be a trade war today. Ever heard of Datsua Nyuo? It's Japan's complete worship of the west and the fear of Chinese retribution of their past crime that has led to its predicament today, a willing lap dog on the leash.
 
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China is least likely to retaliate against Japan, because China wants to tell the world through Japan that China loves peace, even though Japan has invaded China and killed countless Chinese.

But the premise is that Japan cannot participate in the war against China.

Japan is a peaceful country where people have freedom of religion they are not Communist like Russia and China

Japanese people are considered the best behaved and respectful tourists of the World

Japan gave many loans to China during the opening up policy which is the reason China developed
 
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Japan is a peaceful country where people have freedom of religion they are not Communist like Russia and China

Japanese people are considered the best behaved and respectful tourists of the World

Japan gave many loans to China during the opening up policy which is the reason China developed
I know the Chinese and Japanese hate each other,but personally I love Japan. It's my most favorite Far East asian country.

Now the Chinese will hate me even more,I'm sorry guys. I like China and I don't have something against you. We may disagree on the Taiwan matter,but that doesn't mean I hate China. On the contrary. But I love Japan. Many people do.
 
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I know the Chinese and Japanese hate each other,but personally I love Japan. It's my most favorite Far East asian country.

Now the Chinese will hate me even more,I'm sorry guys. I like China and I don't have something against you. We may disagree on the Taiwan matter,but that doesn't mean I hate China. On the contrary. But I love Japan. Many people do.

Actually we don't really care if other people like modern Japan.

But anyone who tries to whitewash the Empire of Japan and those in Japan who deny the crimes of the imperial era is fascist scum.
 
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Actually we don't really care if other people like modern Japan.

But anyone who tries to whitewash the Empire of Japan and those in Japan who deny the crimes of the imperial era is fascist scum.
I know they've been cruel to the Chinese and Koreans. And not just now,in other wars too. On their side they say that a lot of it was exaggerated or Chinese propaganda. Others deny it completely.
 
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Japan is a peaceful country where people have freedom of religion they are not Communist like Russia and China

Japanese people are considered the best behaved and respectful tourists of the World

Japan gave many loans to China during the opening up policy which is the reason China developed
Japan is a peaceful country where people have freedom of religion they are not Communist like Russia and China
Japan hate what they define as " religious lunatics" more than China or Russia. They even hate Sikh immigrants because they apparently appear like an eyesore with their traditional head wear ,religious practice and their appearence.They supervise each and every mosque,the very few that there's in japan and routinely interrogate the attendees just saying.





If China would gladly suck US & UK toe, then there would not be a trade war today. Ever heard of Datsua Nyuo? It's Japan's complete worship of the west and the fear of Chinese retribution of their past crime that has led to its predicament today, a willing lap dog on the leash.
But the general attitude though,the antagonism toward UK(who never apologized nor paid any reparation fees) let alone US and other western nations,to Japan (which apologized many many times and paid hundreds of billions as reparation) is totally different.China don't care about Union Jack but jumps in Korean anti rising sun band wagon.
I think a big miscalculation Chinese thinktank make is that,Japan fears Chinese military provocations,and that such antagonism yields results,all the threats and posturing might be effective against the like of India ,Bangladesh but not high IQ and capable nation like Japan. Only thing preventing the Japan from full wota is their own public's anti militarism sentiment,regardless of what nation it's against,not fear of china. The more China provokes,the easier Japanese hardliners will be able to push for militarization. In mindset Japan is cool like ice in the vein,they are much more formidable opposition than India and a de facto nuclear power of much greater magnitude than India is.

Asia needs strong China and Japan, both to starve off the western vultures. One strong nation isn't enough,it requires two or more powerful and technologically advanced nation which are precedent for others. If Japan & China clash,it leads to the doom of asia and asian people .

Actually we don't really care if other people like modern Japan.

But anyone who tries to whitewash the Empire of Japan and those in Japan who deny the crimes of the imperial era is fascist scum.
So it's a one-way street huh? everybody has to accept whatever accusation levied upon Japan ,no rebutal or defence allowed. That's a very sad sort of attitude,and injustice where the longer stick dictates. ..... Come implications are legit,but also many are a pure political hack, how do you feel when US ask China to take responsibility for everything it's accused of ?
 
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Japanese hate and fear Chinese for the same reason Germans feared and hated Russians in the end of WW2. But Germans have paid for their crimes and were forgiven long time ago. Japan on the contrary have not paid the price for its crimes against China. And this outstanding check haunts them to nightmares.
 
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