japans-5th-generation-stealth-fighter-plane-to-take-off-in-february

[cnleio]

I agree bro lets start an Aviation threads where we can compare current and developing technologies. In fact I'd encourage @cnleio 's participation since he has a strong command in this as well. Let's do it!!

My idea is "I wanna see flight photos" ... then i can say something.

 

[xunzi]

Your approval is next to worthless, pal.

But if personal experience have any value, then I say to Japan: Go For Broke.

The Japanese can do it and they are going to make theirs just as good, if not better than the J-20.

don't count the chicken before it hatches.

why is this Chinese talking crap when it's 5th gen fighter is based off of stolen information for the F-35 and Russia planes.


let's be honest Japan can't compete with China, but they can do their best.

LOL If you believe in your Uncle Sam theory, then you must also believe F-35 tech is compromise and it is junk. Choose one. LOL

As far as stolen, again unproven except accusation. We have calling for evident for a long time. J-20 do not resemble anything like F-22 or T-50. In fact, this ADX is more of a copy of F-22 by its aerodynamic shape, except it is less predatory looking and smaller. This appear to be an interceptor rather than a superiority fighter.

 

[Oldman1]

ahh. yes the tri padel thrust vertoring paddel which came from the -x-31
Rockwell-MBB X-31 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

dont you think there will be problems in regards too thrust. 2x xf5-1's at 49kn wet!!!! each
how on earth will be able to super cruise with a decent load. no offence here bro, but its power is near to that of the m88 on the rafale and this will be bigger than the rafale.
well thats just me being picky mind you the xf5-1 means it can easily be xf5-2 with power to that of the ej200
http://www.mod.go.jp/trdi/research/gaibuhyouka/pdf/XF5-H21.pdf

i can see the 5th gen market being saturated very quickly.
f-2020 from sweden
atd-x/f-3 from japan
j-31 from china
j20 from china
t-50 from russia/india
amca from india
f-35 from the usa
f-22 from the usa
kfx from south korea indoneasia and the usa (lockheed)

as far as i know the following countries are developing 6th gen fighters too.
russia
usa
china-early design stages

now in regards to europe.... well i know dassault is developing a 6th gen ifghter as france is not interested in 5th gen fighters and moving stright to the 6th gen fighters which will replace the rafale. lets face it the f35 is not going to replace the typhoon so i would assume bae systems is probably working on one to. or worse a joint european project.

Considered that this is just a technology demonstrator and not a full scale version.

 

[Kamil_baku]

ahh. yes the tri padel thrust vertoring paddel which came from the -x-31
Rockwell-MBB X-31 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

dont you think there will be problems in regards too thrust. 2x xf5-1's at 49kn wet!!!! each
how on earth will be able to super cruise with a decent load. no offence here bro, but its power is near to that of the m88 on the rafale and this will be bigger than the rafale.
well thats just me being picky mind you the xf5-1 means it can easily be xf5-2 with power to that of the ej200
http://www.mod.go.jp/trdi/research/gaibuhyouka/pdf/XF5-H21.pdf

i can see the 5th gen market being saturated very quickly.
f-2020 from sweden
atd-x/f-3 from japan
j-31 from china
j20 from china
t-50 from russia/india
amca from india
f-35 from the usa
f-22 from the usa
kfx from south korea indoneasia and the usa (lockheed)

as far as i know the following countries are developing 6th gen fighters too.
russia
usa
china-early design stages

now in regards to europe.... well i know dassault is developing a 6th gen ifghter as france is not interested in 5th gen fighters and moving stright to the 6th gen fighters which will replace the rafale. lets face it the f35 is not going to replace the typhoon so i would assume bae systems is probably working on one to. or worse a joint european project.

You forgot about the TFX from Turkey..

 

[Aepsilons]

You forgot about the TFX from Turkey..

On a similar note, congratulations, btw, on the decision to build an aircraft carrier !

 

[Aepsilons]

LOL , learn to build a engine for you ship first.

I was talking to the Turkish member; and I believe the Turks know how to build engines, afterall they are able to build tanks and other high technology , coupled with mechanized production. Cheers, Mr. C.C.P.

 

[AMCA]

Seriously!! I am still surprised, with all the superior capability, the Japanese are late into this development. This should have been a cakewalk for them even in the early 2000's. Good Job Brothers.

 

[Aepsilons]

Seriously!! I am still surprised, with all the superior capability, the Japanese are late into this development. This should have been a cakewalk for them even in the early 2000's. Good Job Brothers.

Thanks bro!!!

 

[Kamil_baku]

Well,their tanks are using German engine and German guns and all other key foreign components.

You japanese can not build tank guns either. You can only import unfinished guns from Germany and finishing under German technicians.

it shows that you got no knowledge about tank and navy ship engines...
1) Only first 250 Turkish tank will use German engine out of 1000.. Turkey will have all of its local build engines for Land forces in 4 years... Turkish Firm To Produce Tank Engine
2) If you can develop a tank engine, you can also easily develop the Ship engine, it is basically a bigger version of it with some additions...

 

[Indos]

it shows that you got no knowledge about tank and navy ship engines...
1) Only first 250 Turkish tank will use German engine out of 1000.. Turkey will have all of its local build engines for Land forces in 4 years... Turkish Firm To Produce Tank Engine
2) If you can develop a tank engine, you can also easily develop the Ship engine, it is basically a bigger version of it with some additions...

Well I think Naval engine uses turbine technology, thats why our state owned Naval building and Aerospace company make turbine companies together with General Electric.

 

[CCP]

it shows that you got no knowledge about tank and navy ship engines...
1) Only first 250 Turkish tank will use German engine out of 1000.. Turkey will have all of its local build engines for Land forces in 4 years... Turkish Firm To Produce Tank Engine

Well, what you can do is import parts or unfinished German engine and assemble/ finish in Turkey

2) If you can develop a tank engine, you can also easily develop the Ship engine, it is basically a bigger version of it with some additions...

The best joke of the day!

 

[SrNair]

Japanese will always ahead than others when it comes to the development of innovative tech products .
We are still talking about AMCA and they will began their flight test even if they started years after our initiative of AMCA .
Our lazy scientists should learn something from them.

 

[initial_d]

Yeah, have a good dream.

Why?? Can't handle the reality!! Lol
Chinese type 2000 is no match for western made mbt

 

[Blue Marlin]

Considered that this is just a technology demonstrator and not a full scale version.

dont you think a full scale model wont happen?

You forgot about the TFX from Turkey..

done.......sorry

 

[CCP]

Why?? Can't handle the reality!! Lol
Chinese type 2000 is no match for western made mbt

Really? lets do a small comparison of Type 99 and Leo II
Gun: almost the same ( if not Type 99 a bit better )
Armour: Type 99 > leo II ( somehow only P5 have the Technic of composite armour)
engine : Type 99 < leo II (both of them have 1500ps but German MTU is much much reliable )

So, we need a battle to see which of them is better.
Your hometown can be a good place to set up the stage.