Japan 'To Announce Disputed Island Purchase'

[Devil Soul]

China Warns Of 'Further Actions' In Japan Row
BEIJING, Sept 18, 2012 (AFP) -China's defence minister said Tuesday his country reserved the right to take "further actions" to resolve a territorial dispute with Japan but voiced hope the feud would be settled through diplomacy.
Beijing is following the situation in the East China Sea closely "and we reserve rights to further actions", General Liang Guanglie, China's defence minister, said through an interpreter at a joint news conference with his US counterpart Leon Panetta.
"Of course, that being said, we still hope for a peaceful and negotiated solution to this issue," Liang said.
The islets, known as Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China, are uninhabited but situated in rich fishing waters and said to sit atop valuable natural resources. They are controlled by Japan but claimed by China and Taiwan.
The general blamed Tokyo for the spike in tensions, saying the archipelago has belonged to China for centuries, dating back to the Ming dynasty.
"The current escalation of tension over this dispute was totally caused by the Japanese side," he said.

 

[Parul]

Apparently, there are many threads on this issue!!! Mod's can Make Sticky for this!!

 

[Federer]

Never, ever, ever play with fire.

Today is 9-18 in China. Peace to the millions of people who died brutally during one of the darkest chapters of Modern Chinese history.

What happened to China today?

Was it Humiliated like in every War?

 

[ahfatzia]

It seems Japan is taking a page out of Uncle Sam's playbook: 'divide and conquer' as she agrees to the spirit of Taiwan's peace initiative in which she didn't even bother to acknowledge a few months ago. It leave no doubt who won the water cannon fight last week.


TAIPEI -- Japan agrees with the basic concept and spirit of Taiwan's East China Sea Peace Initiative, Japan's foreign minister said in a statement released by Japan's Interchange Association yesterday.

According to the statement, Foreign Minister Koichiro Gemba said that although some parts of the initiative and its “implementation guidelines” were unacceptable to Japan, Japan acknowledges and agrees with the basic concept and spirit of the proposal.

Gemba also expressed hope that actions that increase tensions between Japan and Taiwan will not be taken again.

He said the Japanese government expects an improvement in bilateral relations and has recently proposed to resume fishery talks between Taiwan and Japan.

According to the Interchange Association, which represents Japan's interests in Taiwan in the absence of diplomatic ties, Gemba gave his message to Tadashi Imai, the association's president, at a recent meeting and asked him to relay it to Taiwan.

The date of the meeting was not specified.

The statement did not specifically mention the disputed Diaoyutai Islands in the East China Sea, which are claimed by both Taiwan and Japan and have been the source of much of the recent friction between the two countries.

Tensions have mounted over the Diaoyutais since Japan agreed to buy three of the chain's islets from their private owner on Sept. 10 in a bid to further assert its sovereignty over the archipelago.

Gemba acknowledged, however, that because Taiwan and Japan are in close proximity to each other, “unsettled issues” are sometimes unavoidable. He said the two sides should maintain rational communications and not let bilateral ties be affected by “isolated cases.”

The East China Sea Peace Initiative, proposed by Taiwan's President Ma Ying-jeou in August, urges all claimants to the disputed islands to refrain from taking confrontational actions, shelve their differences, observe international law and resolve disputes through peaceful means.

The initiative also called for all sides to seek a consensus on a code of conduct for the East China Sea and establish a mechanism allowing the parties to cooperate in exploring the region's resources.

Japan agrees with 'spirit' of Ma's peace initiative - The China Post

 

[WuMaoCleverbot]

CIA: Japan's Senkaku claim the strongest
Report in 1970s concluded China has no basis for territorial bid
Friday, Oct. 5, 2012

WASHINGTON — A report compiled by the CIA on the sovereignty of the Senkaku Islands around the time China started to formally claim them as its own concluded that Japan's sovereignty case was by far the stronger and more convincing.

"The Japanese claim to sovereignty over the Senkakus is strong, and the burden of proof of ownership would seem to fall on the Chinese," said the intelligence report, which was drafted in May 1971 and was included in declassified documents from the National Security Archive of George Washington University.

In related documents, the CIA stated that any dispute between Japan, China and Taiwan over the islands would not have arisen had it not been for the discovery of potential oil reserves on the nearby continental shelf in the late 1960s.

The islets in the East China Sea are known as Diaoyu in China and Tiaoyutai in Taiwan.

"The Senkaku Islands, uninhabited and unimportant, have emerged from obscurity to give their name to an undersea region that conceivably could cause international conflict: If oil in commercial quantities is not found, they could ultimately lapse again into obscurity," the report noted.

The documents illustrate the skepticism some U.S. officials felt about the validity of China's ownership claim over the isles, although this has never become Washington's official position on the matter.

The report noted that the Red Guard atlas, which was published in 1966 in Beijing during the Cultural Revolution, includes a map of Communist China's international administrative areas.

"This map definitely indicates that the ocean area in which the Senkakus are located is beyond China's border," it pointed out.

The atlas, along with another map, indicate that "the Senkaku Islands belong to the Ryukyus (now Okinawa Prefecture), and therefore to Japan," the report concluded.

In addition, "none of the Chinese Nationalist (Taiwanese) maps that were examined indicate that the Senkaku ocean area is within China's boundaries," it stated.

A random selection of maps published in Europe also fail to show the Senkakus are part of China's sovereign territory, while the 1967 edition of the Soviet Union's official world atlas included a chart specifically designating the Senkakus as Japanese territory, the report said.

An April 1978 memorandum the U.S. National Security Council prepared for Zbigniew Brzezinski, national security adviser to President Jimmy Carter, said, "Our interest is in doing nothing to undercut the Japanese, but at the same time remaining aloof from this potentially contentious Sino-Japanese territorial issue."

These documents demonstrate that while affirming that the Senkakus fall under Japan's jurisdiction, U.S. administrations dating back to the 1970s have consistently maintained a neutral stance on the issue.

CIA: Japan's Senkaku claim the strongest | The Japan Times Online

 

[ahfatzia]

^^^ Lame as hell.

 

[WuMaoCleverbot]

Coming attractions
Posted by ampontan on Friday, September 24, 2010

Coming attractions « AMPONTAN


In 1920, the Japanese rescued 31 Chinese fishermen who were shipwrecked on one of the smaller islets. The Chinese consul in Nagasaki wrote a letter of gratitude to the Japanese thanking them for their help. In the body of the letter, he referred to them by the Japanese term Senkaku islets (尖閣列&#23798 instead of the Chinese name, Daiyutai (釣魚&#23798. In other words, the Chinese considered them Japanese territory in 1920.

8 January 1953: Renmin Ribao (People’s Daily) published an article titled “The Ryukyu Islanders’ Struggle against American Occupation”　(i.e., Okinawa). The article mentioned the Senkakus, used that name, and stated they were part of the Ryukyus.

1953: Renmin Ribao says Senkakus part of Japan
The People's Daily/Renmin Ribao is a daily newspaper in the People's Republic of China. The paper is an organ of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China (CPC),

The View from Taiwan: 1953: Renmin Ribao says Senkakus part of Japan


October 1965: The Research Institute for Taiwan’s Ministry of National Defense published a series of world maps. It showed the islets as part of Japanese territory and used the Japanese name Senkakus.

January 1970: The Taiwan government published a geography textbook for junior high school students that called the islands the Senkakus and treated them as Japanese territory.

 

[BJP*]

I do believe that Japan and China have closer culture than say Pakistan and India.

Pakistan and India have vastly different cultures.

Why doesn't China simply take this issue to the UN?

Language is basic tool for any culture. If you write your nation language in roman script, all Indians will be able to read it and understand it, vice versa.

Same can not be said to China and Japan.

True, Indian and Pakistani culture are very different from each other. But both the cultures are closest to each other compared to any other culture.

Peace.

 

[Korean]

^^^ Lame as hell.

You would wonder if the CCP marked the Spratly's as Chinese back then.

 

[ahfatzia]

You would wonder if the CCP marked the Spratly's as Chinese back then.

I believe the Sprately islands belong to no one but the fish and birds and to some extend, because it's the law of nature, fishermen in this region only allow to make their living here.

 

[solkahn]

The only thing which comes in to my mind after reading most of the post is that JAPAN is making CHINESE friends angry provoking them by, retaliating and lending them in to a vicious circle to flex there military muscles,and Indians as always are cheering for a clash to happen so Chinese navy strengths can be exposed.
USA on the other hand is ready for the potential conflict but still analyzing the outcomes.
I hope survives this and regain there territory which was under there influence since ancient dynasty,s time

 

[EastSea]

Coming attractions
Posted by ampontan on Friday, September 24, 2010

Coming attractions « AMPONTAN


In 1920, the Japanese rescued 31 Chinese fishermen who were shipwrecked on one of the smaller islets. The Chinese consul in Nagasaki wrote a letter of gratitude to the Japanese thanking them for their help. In the body of the letter, he referred to them by the Japanese term Senkaku islets (尖閣列&#23798 instead of the Chinese name, Daiyutai (釣魚&#23798. In other words, the Chinese considered them Japanese territory in 1920.

8 January 1953: Renmin Ribao (People’s Daily) published an article titled “The Ryukyu Islanders’ Struggle against American Occupation”　(i.e., Okinawa). The article mentioned the Senkakus, used that name, and stated they were part of the Ryukyus.

1953: Renmin Ribao says Senkakus part of Japan
The People's Daily/Renmin Ribao is a daily newspaper in the People's Republic of China. The paper is an organ of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China (CPC),

The View from Taiwan: 1953: Renmin Ribao says Senkakus part of Japan


October 1965: The Research Institute for Taiwan’s Ministry of National Defense published a series of world maps. It showed the islets as part of Japanese territory and used the Japanese name Senkakus.

January 1970: The Taiwan government published a geography textbook for junior high school students that called the islands the Senkakus and treated them as Japanese territory.

Same situation showed liar mentality of China related to Islands of Vietnam in the past. At beginning of last century, when chinese sea pirates robbed bussinese ship in area nearby Paracel Islands of Vietnam, authority protested Man Quing govt in Peking, Cantonese governor answered that Islands not belong to China then China didn't have resposibilty about such incident there.

I believe the Sprately islands belong to no one but the fish and birds and to some extend, because it's the law of nature, fishermen in this region only allow to make their living here.

Vietnam controlled Islands from time of Nguyen Dynasty, Islands belong to Vietnam.

 

[ahfatzia]

Tokyo tones down as Japanese Foreign Minister vows continued dialogue with China


TOKYO: Japan's foreign minister on Friday vowed continued dialogue with China over a blistering territorial dispute, but warned there were limits on how far Tokyo would go to compromise.

Koichiro Gemba welcomed the meeting of senior officials from the Japanese and Chinese foreign ministries in Tokyo on Thursday, at which the two agreed a vice ministerial-level meeting should be held.

"Both Japan and China need to think calmly about what to do... even if it takes some time," Gemba told reporters. "I regard Thursday's meeting as part of the idea. We are continuing communications."

But, Gemba added: "It's not easy. The important thing is that we cannot give over what we cannot give over."

Asia's two largest economies are at loggerheads over the sovereignty of an uninhabited, but possibly resource-rich island chain in the East China Sea.

Asked when the planned vice ministerial meeting would be held, Gemba said things were being arranged, but added: "It will take place, that's for sure."

Gemba said that on his upcoming tour of European countries he would be pushing Tokyo's case with international partners.

"Relations between Japan and China have a very big impact on not only peace and security in East Asia but also the entire global economy," said Gemba, who will visit Britain, France and Germany from October 15 to October 20.

"As a matter of course, I am supposed to explain about our country's position" over the dispute, Gemba said.

Thursday's ministerial meeting came the day IMF chief Christine Lagarde said China would "lose out" by not sending its two top economic figures to global talks in Japan this week.

Their withdrawal from the annual meetings of the International Monetary Fund and World Bank has been interpreted as the latest sign of the high tensions between Beijing and Tokyo.

The islands, known as the Senkakus in Japan and Diaoyus in China, are administered by Tokyo but claimed by Beijing.

The dispute, which has rumbled for decades, flared in August and September with landings by nationalists from both sides and the subsequent nationalisation of the islands by Tokyo.

Japan FM vows continued dialogue with China - Channel NewsAsia