Japan stealth jet prototype set to fly in 2014

[CardSharp]

In the area of transfer of technology, usually with mutual benefits, you do not transfer to a society that is incapable of using whatever it is being transfered. Working with Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan was moving towards to being a nuclear state as the US was working on the Manhattan Project at the same time...

U-234 carries Uranium for Japan.

It is funny that it is a great achievement that China can re-engineered and reverse engineer many things to benefit China from Soviet technology and often with Soviet assistance, but it is contemptible if Japan or South Korea does the same with American technology and assistance.

Where's the contempt? I know China reverse engineered to catch up to other countries, including the soviet when they were around. The person I was replying to made a claim that Japan was THE most advanced country at the time and I said this isn't the case as Japan recieved a number of key technologies from Germany, things like radar systems, a complete disassemble Me-262, and the Heinkel Comet rocket plane.

Would you agree with his statement that Japan was THE most advanced country at the time or are you just arguing with me because I am Chinese?

 

[casual]

Their procurement plans are underway and this is a seperate project.

so they think they can make something better then the F35?

 

[CardSharp]

so they think they can make something better then the F35?

Will America let Japan into the F-35 project?

 

[tanlixiang28776]

Will America let Japan into the F-35 project?

Japan wants F 22.

 

[below_freezing]

Jap anese air force still using stone age F-4s, enough said. they can't even make a full sized wind tunnel for aerodynamics tests, how are they going to do experiments on their plane? use their stone age supercomputer, also noting that CFD techniques still can't replace actual tests even on the best of supercomputers?

Their design is also just a slightly modified F-15, modified intakes. They might as well buy the F-15SE.

For those that still talk about WW2 and Japanese aviation industry, why not talk about Mongolia being ultra powerful because it has the best horse cavalry? Skill in propellar planes is totally irrelevant to modern planes, China never had indigenous propellar planes and went straight for jets. Propellar planes are as relevant to modern air warfare as horse cavalry is to a modern army.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

Jap anese air force still using stone age F-4s, enough said. they can't even make a full sized wind tunnel for aerodynamics tests, how are they going to do experiments on their plane? use their stone age supercomputer, also noting that CFD techniques still can't replace actual tests even on the best of supercomputers?

Their design is also just a slightly modified F-15, modified intakes. They might as well buy the F-15SE.

For those that still talk about WW2 and Japanese aviation industry, why not talk about Mongolia being ultra powerful because it has the best horse cavalry? Skill in propellar planes is totally irrelevant to modern planes, China never had indigenous propellar planes and went straight for jets.

Its actually much smaller than the F 15 SE

 

[below_freezing]

F 2 is enlarged and modified F 16 C/D

Yes, I meant, their stealth fighter prototype looks much like a F-15.

Their stealth fighter.

F-15.

As you notice the aerodynamic shape is very similar, all they did was change the intakes.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

Its far smaller than the F 15. Its actually smaller than the F 16.

 

[below_freezing]

Its far smaller than the F 15. Its actually smaller than the F 16.

And they want to fit 2 engines onto that? How many missiles can it carry then? Their design seems worse and worse by the minute.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

And they want to fit 2 engines onto that? How many missiles can it carry then? Their design seems worse and worse by the minute.

Seems to be the point interceptor of stealth fighters

 

[Andross]

Is it just me or does it look very similar to AMCA

 

[tanlixiang28776]

Is it just me or does it look very similar to AMCA

More like a minaturized F15 SE.

 

[Andross]

Why Japan going for Eurofighter or F18S/H when they can make this?? why they wanna buy from USA if they can design on their own

 

[tanlixiang28776]

Why Japan going for Eurofighter or F18S/H when they can make this?? why they wanna buy from USA if they can design on their own

The problem is that they don't seem to be capable of fully producing a fighter at a reasonable price. Their previous fighter the F 2 was based on the F 16 C/D and used 40% American components including engines at a whopping 127 million in 2009 prices.

In other words a vanilla 4th gen fighter in Japanese hands almost costs as much as a F 22.

 

[Andross]

The problem is that they don't seem to be capable of fully producing a fighter at a reasonable price. Their previous fighter the F 2 was based on the F 16 C/D and used 40% American components including engines at a whopping 127 million in 2009 prices.

F2 is inferior to F 16 E/F

Can't they make own engines? this suprises me all the technology they have but they still struggling with jet engines, I think they made bad mistake to put all the eggs in one basket in going with USA now they are stuck on what to do i dont think they they planned this very well