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Japan and Korea are considered branches of the Chinese civilisation

Chinese Civilization’s Impact on Japan and Korea

By Grant Oster | April 6, 2014



Ancient Chinese Text

The written language is often overlooked as one of the most important inventions in the development of mankind. The invention of a written language served as variations of the foundation to basic concepts such as recorded history, basic math, and the creation of paper money[1]. The Chinese written language not only served as the first records of both Japanese and Korean history[2] [3], but was adopted by these countries and served as their first writing systems. An example of this is the slab that was found in Paekche King Muryeong’s tomb[4]. This slab, erected in 414, serves as the “earliest extant Korean document (written, although, in Chinese)”[5]. More importantly, the use of a written language allowed both Japan and Korea to better their governments. Due to the fact that Japan and Korea both assimilated to the Chinese written language, they both benefited from Chinese culture.

From a political standpoint a written language offered Japan and Korea a way to succeed in establishing strong political states, especially since they were mirrored after the success of Chinese dynasties (such as the Tang dynasty). There were tremendous steps taken to emulate Chinese diplomacy in the institutionalization of governments in both Japan and Korea. However, the nation that most mirrored China best was Korea.

The Korean territory was divided into four parts, the most important of these being Lelang. As Lelang remained under Chinese control, under the Han dynasty[6], until 313 C.E.[7], it should come as no surprise that it was heavily influenced by Chinese culture. Korean rulers had firsthand knowledge and enough foresight to see that the Chinese way of government was needed to establish a long-lasting foundation for Korea.


Goguryeo, Baekje, and Silla

During the fourth century, Korea evolved into three distinct territorial states: Goguryeo, Baekje, and Silla. All three of these states “borrow[ed] Chinese political practices as ways to strengthen the king’s control”[8] [9]. Part of doing so included setting up ministries of war, the issuance of Chinese-style law codes, and the collection of taxes on agriculture[10]. The most significant example of China’s direct influence on Korea is that of Silla.

When Silla erected their new capital, Gyeongju, in 676, it acquired many of the centralized-government practices that allowed China to thrive: the Tang bureaucratic model, post stations, and the checkerboard city layout that the Tang capital of Chang’an[11]. In analyzing the ways in which Silla succeeded—where Goguryeo and Baekje failed—it was with diplomacy[12] and the foresight of alliance[13], both taken from the Chinese, which allowed Silla to unify Korea.

Whereas some of the Korean states had the Chinese lifestyle, customs, and traditions forced upon them, Japan greeted China’s ways with arms wide open. Between 592 and 756, the Yamato kings transformed themselves into Chinese-style monarchs[14]. One of the staunchest towards the pro-Chinese government was Prince Shōtoku. In 604, Prince Shōtoku enforced his new ideology, based on Confucian and Buddhist thought, with the sole purpose of putting distance between the ruling Yamato line and all other lineages[15]. It was under the Yamato rule that the elite sought out Chinese culture: the written language, Daoism, Confucianism, and the arts [16].


Fujiwara Family Tree

A few decades later, the citizens of the newly-founded Fujiwara lineage fully embraced the Chinese way. An example of this was when they instituted the use of Chinese-style era names[17]. It was with the Fujiwara that a Chinese-style palace was constructed. Moreover, the new capital was divided “into symmetrical halves just as the Chinese-style bureaucratic structure balanced the minister of the left with the minister of the right, lest either monopolize power…”[18]. While Japan took much from China, such as etiquette, ceremony, and other aristocratic forms of behavior[19], they did not take much in the way of government.

[1] Patricia Ebrey and Anne Walthall, Pre-Modern East Asia: A Cultural, Social, and Political History to 1800 (Boston: Wadsworth, Cengage Learning 2014), 147.

[2] Ibid., 103.

[3] Ibid., 125.

[4] Lewis R. Lancaster and Chai-Shin Yu, Introduction of Buddhism to Korea: New Cultural Patterns. (Asian Humanities Press, 1989), 39.

[5] Patricia Ebrey and Anne Walthall, Pre-Modern East Asia: A Cultural, Social, and Political History to 1800 (Boston: Wadsworth, Cengage Learning 2014), 103.

[6] Ibid., 112.

[7] Ibid., 100.

[8] Ibid., 103.

[9] Ibid., 107.

[10] Ibid., 104.

[11] Ibid., 106.

[12] Ibid., 106.

[13] Ibid., 112.

[14] Ibid., 118.

[15] Ibid., 119.

[16] Ibid., 125.

[17] Ibid., 120.

[18] Ibid., 120.

[19] Ibid., 126.
 
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Steppe Nomads were the only East Asians / Central Asians to dare launch a naval invasion of Japan. Not once, but twice ! So impressive ! Very daring !

Even the Chinese and Koreans did not dare do that. Ever.

The Mongols were Calvary and not good at siege of cities nor attacks using ship. For thoes the Mongols had to rely on the Chinese.
 
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The Mongols were Calvary and not good at siege of cities nor attacks using ship. For thoes the Mongols had to rely on the Chinese.


@Ahiska , @TaiShang , @Nan Yang et al,

Check this movie out, really good. A classic Japanese film on the Mongol Invasion of Japan.

 
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WTF are you talking about? The only reason China shows the same GDP as the US is because of PPP. Purchasing Power Parity accounts for the variances in cost of living in different countries in relation to the US. So if you have GDP per capita in PPP that's lower than another country it means you're poorer than that country. In nominal terms, China has a GDP of 10 trillion and ours is over 17 trillion. By the way, US is actually quite inexpensive in comparison to the other developed nations.

Because we deliberately understated our GDP for some geopolitical reasons.

If we use the SNA 2008 standard and count all those all business sectors, our GPD will already surpass that of the US.

And when you check those industrial output figures, you will see the difference here.

And we produce many inexpensive goods, and imagine if we sell it at higher price, our industrial output will look even more significant.

List of countries by GDP sector composition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Better standard of living? You probably wouldn't understand. It's this silly measure we use just for fun. You know how the Chinese boast they have the largest economy in the world by PPP but fail to mention that 325 million American produce the same amount as 1.4 billion Chinese? Same principle. 180 million Japanese and South Koreans have an economy the 60% of the what 1.4 billion Chinese have.

Another guy who just found out what GDP means on Wikipedia yesterday, not realizing that China's accounts are different.
 
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And I thought only we Indians had the habit of calling Pakistanis and BDians a part of our civilisation. :lol:

On topic:
isnt it true Chinese characters long served as the common writing system for all, just as the closely related scripts of Greece and Rome served for all the West ??? and that the Japanese developed phonetic syllabaries more suited to their language much later???
Afaik the basic ethical concepts and value systems of the four countries of East Asia are surprisingly uniform.Isnt it???
 
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Steppe Nomads were the only East Asians / Central Asians to dare launch a naval invasion of Japan. Not once, but twice ! So impressive ! Very daring !

Even the Chinese and Koreans did not dare do that. Ever.

The Chinese and Koreans didn't "dare" to launch naval invasions of the Philippines or Cambodia either. Or even Okinawa.This is when even stranded Ming defectors could fight off all Europeans in the region at once while exterminating Japanese pirates, right after defeating you in Korea. Don't mistake mercy and benevolence for weakness.
 
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The Chinese and Koreans didn't "dare" to launch naval invasions of the Philippines or Cambodia either. Or even Okinawa.This is when even stranded Ming defectors could fight off all Europeans in the region at once while exterminating Japanese pirates, right after defeating you in Korea. Don't mistake mercy and benevolence for weakness.
And then Ming and all defectors got destroyed by some Manchus.
 
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no, they lost predominantly to other Ming defectors who joined the Manchu instead.
But it seems that those Defectors like the Manchus more then other Chinese.
Also the thing with the pigtail is quite funny.
 
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And then Ming and all defectors got destroyed by some Manchus.
Actually they got effectively self destroyed in civil war, manchus just took the oppertunities and picked up the leftovers, Japanese tried to take similar path, partly supporting warlords and even the republican revolution itself, tried to make china weaken itself in the process (Germen tried to do the same with russian revolution), fortunately they failed.
 
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Actually they got effectively self destroyed in civil war, manchus just took the oppertunities and picked up the leftovers, Japanese tried to take similar path, partly supporting warlords and even the republican revolution itself, tried to make china weaken itself in the process (Germen tried to do the same with russian revolution), fortunately they failed.
While that is true the Manchus defeated the Ming and Shun dynasty in quite a short time and first imposed their culture on the Chinese population which was unseen in Chinese history.
(Even the Yuan dynasty and some Turkic lords never tried to impose their culture on the Chinese)

no, they lost predominantly to other Ming defectors who joined the Manchu instead.
I agree with you here
 
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But it seems that those Defectors like the Manchus more then other Chinese.
Also the thing with the pigtail is quite funny.

Considering the dynasty collapsed already in civil war, there wasn't much of a choice once the majority of Northern forces joined the Manchu instead.

While that is true the Manchus defeated the Ming and Shun dynasty in quite a short time and first imposed their culture on the Chinese population

No, they forced Chinese (and other ethnic groups) to cut their hair. Then they adopted Confucianism and China's foreign policy. The Manchu alone would have been annihilated in a blink of an eye, they needed Han and Mongols to really do anything.
 
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