For a person to live in england and Hate Western nations plus highlighted part pretty much explains every thing about you i have no more interest in discussing this topic with you.
Hey hey ... When did i say i hate Western nations!!!
In fact I love their system, and I am proud to be playing a part in their local government councils. But every country should be independent in making their own decisions. In fact It is never the Western countries, its always our leaders who approach them.
Leaders of a country should not go to Camp David and then come back and say with pride that they begged US for 2$Billion and succeeded ! Why should a country take pride in getting loans and aid from another country??
Let me tell you something, I found this out some time back that after WWII, UK was almost destroyed by the bombing of German airjets, so UK asked US for help in rebuilding. They offered UK the aid but as usual along with it came a long list of demand that were pertinent to its internal as well as foreign policies. But unlike our leaders, UK premier rejected the aid! and build their almost completely bombed and destroyed country themselves!
Another thing I would say here as well You wanna know why western nations are the economic and military superpowers? Because here people cherish democracy. They believe "Even the worse forms of democracy is better than best forms of dictatorship"
Unfortunately people like you have a long way to go. For me, its not Musharraf . I believe he should be made an example so that no other person comes out abolishes constitution twice, sacks judges, abuses power and finally passes NRO and all other black measures just to cling on to power.
Since this forum is a defence forum, so there are definitely 10% musharraf supporters over here who according to one recent survey is the only support that the General has in the country now!
So much for the person who has affiliated me with NS camp. In fact NS camp only has support from Punjab. Where as I am a pure Karachite!
But i find it very depressing when I was in Pakistan. There are only two axis of powers in Karachi, either MQM (Mafia whose source of power are Russian guns) or Army(as usual). Normal middle class people unfortunately are treated like dirt. and this is not going to change unless we have an independent judiciary and proper democracy.