Firstly, the Lal Masjid.
What I have posted is exactly how it happened. It was not Musharraf telling the way it is. Lal Masjid students as well as the whole operation and mullah Aziz trying to run away way clad as a women was on the TV for everyone to see.
I disagree totally with Hon Zarvans’ assertion “ If governments start promoting and protecting evil than people will have to stop evil and that is order of Islam and people have to overthrow government”.
Who is to decide what is evil. I would say that Aziz brothers were evil as they created a law & order problem. Aziz brothers were not even renowned scholars of Islam. Every mullah or warlord will declare other one as evil and we would have anarchy. If we follow Hon Zarvan’s argument, Pakistan would be another Somalia; perhaps this is what is really intended by the TTP supporters!
Next the Pashtun.
Before I start let me make it clear that even though I am replying to Hon Ghilzai’s posts, my reference is general and not a specific person.
Personally I don’t differentiate between Pakistanis. Baluch, Sindhi, Mohajir, Kashmiri, Punjabi, Pashtun or from Baltistan, in my view, as long as they accept writ of the Pakistan State, all citizens have equal rights.
However, I do differentiate between those who abide by Pakistan’s laws and those who conspire to break up Pakistan such as supporters of the BNP, of Sindhu Desh & of TTP. How can anyone claim that they love Pakistan when Pakistan’s flag cannot fly and GOP’s writ does not apply in the areas under TTP control?
We must however understand that all TTP are not Pashtun. There are many Punjabis, especially from the south Punjab, who were fighting for Taliban in Afghanistan and now belong to the TTP. Cold blooded killers loosely tied to the TTP, the LeJ & their SSP brothers are almost entirely Punjabis. Additionally, majority of Pakistani victims of the TTP are Pashtuns. Thus bringing Pashtun ethnicity in this discussion only confuses the issue.
I fully appreciate the sentiment about innocent people killed in drone attacks. Drone attacks are without doubt an insult to Pakistan nation as a whole and there is no excuse for the innocent women & children who lose their life as 'collateral damage' in drone attacks.
But why ignore a far larger number (nearly 40,000) Pakistanis killed in terrorists & suicide attacks inside Pakistan? Why not condemn both the US actions and the TTP bombings in the same breath?
People are welcome to take revenge on the US troops in Afghanistan and /or by all means target Musharraf, if they hold him responsible; but why can’t some people find it their heart to even shed a tear or two for the innocent Pashtuns who lost their lives in the KP by the TTP bombings.
Surely most of the civilian killed in the KP or other parts of Pakistan had no hand in either handing over Taliban terrorists to the US or in the drone attacks.
Needless to remind that plucky Malala Yusufzai is also a Pushtun. Attack on a defenseless 14 year old girl is a slur on the brave Pashtun tradition, but who cares about such niceties when it comes to the love of the Taliban ideology?
Finally reply to "There was no terrorism before Lal Masjid operation, so you tell me who was the fanatic?"
Lal masjid episode happened in July 2007. No doubt terrorism and suicide attacks increased after that;a conclusive proof that Aziz brothers have terrorist links. But terrorist attacks were a plenty before Lal Masjid as well. For the sake of brevity, I shall ignore earlier terrorism and only enumerate terrorist attacks in Pakistan in 2006 & 2005.
2005
• 8 January: - At least 10 persons killed in sectarian violence in the northern Pakistani city of Gilgit.
• 19 March: - At least 35 people were killed and many injured when a Sipah-e-Sahaba terrorist exploded himself in a mixed crowd of Shia and Sunni devotees at the shrine of Pir Rakhel Shah in remote village of Fatehpur in Jhal Magsi, Baluchistan.
• 25 May: - 6 members of a family were killed in an explosion at village of Bandkhel in Makeen, South Waziristan.
• 27 May: - 20 people were slaughtered and 82 wounded in a suicide bombing at the annual congregation at the shrine of Bari Imam in Islamabad.
• 31 May: - 6 bodies were recovered from a fast food outlet set ablaze by an angry mob following the suicide attack on the Shia mosque in central Karachi where five people were killed and about 20 others wounded.
• 22 September: - At least 6 people, including a woman, were killed and 27 injured in two bomb blasts in Lahore. Police said the bombs went off within an interval of one and a half hour.
• 7 October:- 8 members of the Ahmadiyya faith were killed inside a mosque as worshipers were performing Salah in Mandi Bahauddin, Punjab, Pakistan.
• 13 October: - 12 people including students killed in the curfew and clashes between the Rangers and civilians in Gilgit.
• 15 November:- A car bomb exploded outside a Kentucky Fried Chicken outlet in Karachi, Pakistan. At least three people were killed and eight others wounded.
• 8 December:- At least 12 people were killed and 30 injured in a bomb explosion in the Jandola town of South Waziristan.
•22 December:- At least seven people have been killed in what officials say was a battle between Islamic students and bandits in the Jandola, South Waziristan.
2006.
• 5 February:- A bomb explosion killed 13 people and injured 18 on a Lahore-bound bus en route from Quetta in Kolhu, Bolan District, Baluchistan.
• 9 February:- At least 36 people killed and more than 100 wounded in attacks and clashes in Pakistan and Afghanistan. The violence erupted with a suspected suicide attack on Shiites in Hangu, during Ashura procession.
• 2 March: - A suicide car bomb attack in the high security zone near the US Consulate, Karachi, killed four people including a US diplomat, a day before President George W. Bush was to reach Pakistan.
• 10 March: - At least 26 people, mostly women and children, were killed in Dera Bugti District; Balochistan after their bus hit a landmine.
• 11 April:- Over 50 people, including Sunni (Barelvi) scholars, were killed in a bomb explosion at a religious gathering celebrating the birthday of Prophet Muhammad in Nishtar Park, Karachi.
• 12 June:- At least five people were killed and 17 wounded in a bomb attack in Quetta hotel.
• 15 June: - Unidentified gunmen killed a senior prison official Amanullah Khan Niazi and four others in Karachi.
• 16 June: - Two female teachers and two children were shot dead in Khoga Chiri village in Orakzai Agency.
• 14 July:- Allama Hassan Turabi, a Shiite religious scholar and chief of Tehrik-e-Jafaria Pakistan, and his 12-year-old nephew were killed in a suicide attack near his Abbas Town residence.
• 8 September: - 6 people were killed and 17 injured, when a powerful bomb blast hit the Rakhni bazaar area of Barkhan District, Baluchistan.
• 20 October:- A bomb blast killed at least 6 people and left 21 injured in a busy shopping district of Peshawar.
• 8 November:- A suicide bomber killed 42 Pakistani Army soldiers and injured 20 in Dargai.
15 November:- A car bomb exploded outside a Kentucky Fried Chicken outlet in Karachi, Pakistan. At least 3 people were killed and 8 others wounded.
• 8 December: - At least 12 people were killed and 30 injured in a bomb explosion in the Jandola South Waziristan.
However I am fully aware that reason has no value when it comes to the lovers of Taliban & bigotry. Else no one would provide support the people who are attack Pakistani State assets with impunity, proudly claim murders of innocent Pakistani civilians and have vowed to kill school girl Malala if she returns to Pakistan.
Hurrah for the Taliban & LeJ killers and praise for their supporters.