Jack Ma Confirmed as Chinese Communist Party Member

[Viva_Viet]

Back to the topic, coward Jack Ma resign so fast to save his face before Cn economy dead

China factory growth unexpectedly stalls in November

• The official Purchasing Managers' Index (PMI) fell to 50.0 in November from 50.2 in October, data showed on Friday, adding pressure on Beijing to roll out more economic support measures amid a bitter trade war with the United States.
• Analysts surveyed by Reuters had forecast the reading for the month would be unchanged from October at 50.2.

Published 1 Hour Ago Updated 8 Mins AgoReuters
Growth in China's vast manufacturing sector stalled for the first time in over two years in November as new orders shrank, adding pressure on Beijing ahead of high-stakes trade talks between presidents Xi Jinping and Donald Trump this weekend.

The official Purchasing Managers' Index (PMI), released on Friday, fell to 50 in November, missing market expectations and down from 50.2 in October.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/30/china-pmi-november-official-purchasing-managers-index.html

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

Back to the topic, coward Jack Ma resign so fast to save his face before Cn economy dead

China factory growth unexpectedly stalls in November

• The official Purchasing Managers' Index (PMI) fell to 50.0 in November from 50.2 in October, data showed on Friday, adding pressure on Beijing to roll out more economic support measures amid a bitter trade war with the United States.
• Analysts surveyed by Reuters had forecast the reading for the month would be unchanged from October at 50.2.

Published 1 Hour Ago Updated 8 Mins AgoReuters
Growth in China's vast manufacturing sector stalled for the first time in over two years in November as new orders shrank, adding pressure on Beijing ahead of high-stakes trade talks between presidents Xi Jinping and Donald Trump this weekend.

The official Purchasing Managers' Index (PMI), released on Friday, fell to 50 in November, missing market expectations and down from 50.2 in October.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/30/china-pmi-november-official-purchasing-managers-index.html

South China Sea Conflit

Date 14 March 1988
Chigua Reef
Territorial changes:
Chinese retook Chigua Reef
Belligerents

China

Vietnam

Casualties and losses
China 0 killed =VS= Vietnam 64 killed
China 1 wounded =VS= Vietnam 11 wounded
China 0 captured =VS= Vietnam 9 captured
China 0 armed transporters sunk =VS= Vietnam 2 armed transporters sunk
China 0 landing craft destroyed =VS= Vietnam 1 landing craft destroyed

South China Sea Conflit

Date 14 March 1988
Chigua Reef
Territorial changes:
Chinese retook Chigua Reef
Belligerents

China

Vietnam

Casualties and losses
China 0 killed =VS= Vietnam 64 killed
China 1 wounded =VS= Vietnam 11 wounded
China 0 captured =VS= Vietnam 9 captured
China 0 armed transporters sunk =VS= Vietnam 2 armed transporters sunk
China 0 landing craft destroyed =VS= Vietnam 1 landing craft destroyed


I guess VN army soldiers and offciers are nothing but terrorists that PLAN played with!


2)Little Ho Chi Minh is licking Mao Zedong’s assshole.

Little Ho Chi Minh is even licking ZHOU Enlai’s assshole

 

[Nilgiri]

Back to the topic, coward Jack Ma resign so fast to save his face before Cn economy dead

They need to run to daddy JPN again!

 

[Viva_Viet]

Jack Ma was not just a dumb peasant. He was a heiwulei, who descended from landlords. The majority of beneficiaries of China's reforms are these former landlords, (enemies of the people); and NOT ordinary Chinese.


.

His father was landlord, but Ma is dumb peasant cos there is No landlord in Mao's era , bro

They need to run to daddy JPN again!

Sure, thats why Xi keep begging for negotiation wt trump in the next meeting while Trump just say "dont care !"

 

[Nilgiri]

Sure, thats why Xi keep begging for negotiation wt trump in the next meeting while Trump just say "dont care !"

Sit back and enjoy my friend

 

[DADY]

1)Because your country robbed weak country like Qing China and Philippines ......and get the first lot of money and then start to use the robbed money to make innovations and start talking about human rights when you get rich enough,and now you are calling the innovation of China is a threat to you?!
Look at how US treats CHINA very advanced companies like Huawei and ZTE!!!
A private chinese company can threaten US national security?!
Give us a break,will you!
Only 1000 nukes can threaten US!and you know it,you guys just can not play a fair game!!

2)People want to get US money ,they love their homeland whereever they are,they want to get rich like every body else.Whatever US did to native indians and to other country like mexico,China qing ,philippines,they made it and become rich!
4)That does not deny the miracles made by Cuba with so much limited ressources,even your beloved US imports a lot of medecines from Cuba every year!

It is incorrect to say that only 1000 nukes can threaten US. Actually, Mao, and Lin Biao were very successfully challenging the US by supporting opponents of US imperialism. China, today, could, for example, support uprisings in Singapore to weaken US hegemony, however, today's China is too weak to do that, and indeed overun by a bunch of sell outs, making it impossible for China to level the playing field. This is why China is being pushed out of Sri Lanka, Myanmar, and Malaysia.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

It is incorrect to say that only 1000 nukes can threaten US. Actually, Mao, and Lin Biao were very successfully challenging the US by supporting opponents of US imperialism. China, today, could, for example, support uprisings in Singapore to weaken US hegemony, however, today's China is too weak to do that, and indeed overun by a bunch of sell outs, making it impossible for China to level the playing field. This is why China is being pushed out of Sri Lanka, Myanmar, and Malaysia.

1）China is definitely not weak. China does not want to fight a war before the per capita GDP reaches 25,000 US dollars. If China wants to fight, it must win. Otherwise, China will not go to war easily even if China is being provoked, the Chinese are patient people in the long-term planning.

2）China is being pushed out of Sri Lanka, Myanmar, and Malaysia??
Really?Never heared it!
Firstly,China never want to controle Sri Lanka, Myanmar, and Malaysia like US did to S.korea and Jap,
China company had took over Sri Lanka ports for 99 years, and Myanmar is buying China-Pak co produced JF17/FC-1 and ask China support in mutiple issues, and Malaysia is welcoming Chinese companies like CRRC locomotives to set up in Malaysia and doing biz quite well....

 

[DADY]

I was never talking about fighting a war. I'm talking about training, and arming revolutionaries, which China very successfully did for 20 years. It's actually stupid to go to war directly. Most countries, including the US, will prefer backing rebels first, which they are successfully doing right now in Xizhang, Xingjiang, HK, and TW. In 2014, the west showed China that they can do whatever they want in HK, and China can't do anything about it. Compare the networks that the west has in China, with the networks China has in the west. There is simply no comparison.

What happens if China collapses before China ever reaches 25k? Does that then justify China's inactions? It's foolish to wait for 25k, because the more money China has, the more western influence there will be in China. By the time China reaches 25k, they will be fully under the control of the west. The general pattern in China has been, since 1978, the richer China got, the more control the west had over China, and the more China had to obey the west. Indeed when China was "poor", it was much more autonomous, and independent. It was precisely the autonomy that made China strong, and respected around the world. The west is not stupid, they know that when they give business deals to China, China has to give up political control, and that's precisely what's been happening, and what will happen as China sinks deeper into the capitalist quick sand.

There are so many other ways you can challenge the west other than war. For example, the west does a very successful job at propaganda. China, on the other hand does a poor job at it. That's why people side with the west. Even Hongers are siding with the west, so what do you want to say? When people see that Hongers are siding with the west, that affects how people around the world see China. In that sense, China will lose the war before it even starts. You never heard of China being pushed out of Malaysia? Look at how Mahathir canceled all those Chinese projects. The same thing happened in Myanmar, and Sri Lanka. Ask yourself this, would they dare to cancel projects with the west? If the Chinese are ignorant of their disadvantages, then they will surely be dominated by the west sooner rather than later.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

I was never talking about fighting a war. I'm talking about training, and arming revolutionaries, which China very successfully did for 20 years. It's actually stupid to go to war directly. Most countries, including the US, will prefer backing rebels first, which they are successfully doing right now in Xizhang, Xingjiang, HK, and TW. In 2014, the west showed China that they can do whatever they want in HK, and China can't do anything about it. Compare the networks that the west has in China, with the networks China has in the west. There is simply no comparison.

What happens if China collapses before China ever reaches 25k? Does that then justify China's inactions? It's foolish to wait for 25k, because the more money China has, the more western influence there will be in China. By the time China reaches 25k, they will be fully under the control of the west. The general pattern in China has been, since 1978, the richer China got, the more control the west had over China, and the more China had to obey the west. Indeed when China was "poor", it was much more autonomous, and independent. It was precisely the autonomy that made China strong, and respected around the world. The west is not stupid, they know that when they give business deals to China, China has to give up political control, and that's precisely what's been happening, and what will happen as China sinks deeper into the capitalist quick sand.

There are so many other ways you can challenge the west other than war. For example, the west does a very successful job at propaganda. China, on the other hand does a poor job at it. That's why people side with the west. Even Hongers are siding with the west, so what do you want to say? When people see that Hongers are siding with the west, that affects how people around the world see China. In that sense, China will lose the war before it even starts. You never heard of China being pushed out of Malaysia? Look at how Mahathir canceled all those Chinese projects. The same thing happened in Myanmar, and Sri Lanka. Ask yourself this, would they dare to cancel projects with the west? If the Chinese are ignorant of their disadvantages, then they will surely be dominated by the west sooner rather than later.

Not Agree with you,Huawei is taking over the high techs fields not the other way around!
Country under 20000 USD per capaita would end up with chaos when democratinized!

 

[JohnWick]

@long_
SIr sth more about Jack ma?

 

[Viva_Viet]

I was never talking about fighting a war. I'm talking about training, and arming revolutionaries, which China very successfully did for 20 years. It's actually stupid to go to war directly. Most countries, including the US, will prefer backing rebels first, which they are successfully doing right now in Xizhang, Xingjiang, HK, and TW. In 2014, the west showed China that they can do whatever they want in HK, and China can't do anything about it. Compare the networks that the west has in China, with the networks China has in the west. There is simply no comparison.

What happens if China collapses before China ever reaches 25k? Does that then justify China's inactions? It's foolish to wait for 25k, because the more money China has, the more western influence there will be in China. By the time China reaches 25k, they will be fully under the control of the west. The general pattern in China has been, since 1978, the richer China got, the more control the west had over China, and the more China had to obey the west. Indeed when China was "poor", it was much more autonomous, and independent. It was precisely the autonomy that made China strong, and respected around the world. The west is not stupid, they know that when they give business deals to China, China has to give up political control, and that's precisely what's been happening, and what will happen as China sinks deeper into the capitalist quick sand.

There are so many other ways you can challenge the west other than war. For example, the west does a very successful job at propaganda. China, on the other hand does a poor job at it. That's why people side with the west. Even Hongers are siding with the west, so what do you want to say? When people see that Hongers are siding with the west, that affects how people around the world see China. In that sense, China will lose the war before it even starts. You never heard of China being pushed out of Malaysia? Look at how Mahathir canceled all those Chinese projects. The same thing happened in Myanmar, and Sri Lanka. Ask yourself this, would they dare to cancel projects with the west? If the Chinese are ignorant of their disadvantages, then they will surely be dominated by the west sooner rather than later.

the richer China got, the more control the west had over China...Bingo, 100% correct ! only Cnese trying to believe that Deng is so smart to "lead CN out of darkness " while actually Deng had to accept the US's control over TW and the surrounding water plus the support from CN to destroy Soviet.

US didnt quickly turn CN to the next target after Soviet dead bcs US didnt have another serious economy crisis till 2008. After 2008, US realize that she need big money to stop the crisis, thats the reason why CN become US's target now (CN chaos will help US sell billion USD weapon to CN rebel in Xizhang, Xingjiang, HK etc ).

Btw: I predict CN will be in chaos in 2023 due to US sanction and TPP, how abt your prediction ??

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

the richer China got, the more control the west had over China...Bingo, 100% correct ! only Cnese trying to believe that Deng is so smart to "lead CN out of darkness " while actually Deng had to accept the US's control over TW and the surrounding water plus the support from CN to destroy Soviet.

US didnt quickly turn CN to the next target after Soviet dead bcs US didnt have another serious economy crisis till 2008. After 2008, US realize that she need big money to stop the crisis, thats the reason why CN become US's target now (CN chaos will help US sell billion USD weapon to CN rebel in Xizhang, Xingjiang, HK etc ).

Btw: I predict CN will be in chaos in 2023 due to US sanction and TPP, how abt your prediction ??

All bullshits,not even worthy to waste time on!
100% correct! Bingo!

 

[DADY]

China will fall into chaos because it has no ideology to keep the people's loyalty. They have nothing that resonates with the masses. At least in the 60s, China had comunism. Now they have nothing. The only ideology that seems to be in China now is chongyangmeiwai. With correct ideology, there will be stability no matter how poor a country is financially. The richness will only empower the west even more. The west has stated many times that they will, in times of crisis, mobilize the 300 million Chinese bourgeoisie against the Deng dynasty just like they did back in 89. The idea that richness will bring loyalty is a joke. Xingjiang's Rebia Kadir was the richest woman in China. Notice her richness did not make her loyal to China. Wealthy Chinese tends to favor the west, so the bigger the bourgeoisie class grows, the more soldiers the west will have against China. Notice how in my previous post I said that China is going against its own interests. The Chinese leaders are waiting for $20k, so they can help China collapse like the USSR. Or as the Chinese will say, feed this pig til he gets fat before you slaughter it.

Without an offensive, China is doomed, but how can you expect a bunch of sell outs to create an offensive? While the west has successfully created problems for China, China has done nothing to create problems for the west. At least in the 60s, China was backing the black power movement. They can't even do that today. What a pity.

What we have today is a one way war, a war in which the west is constantly creating problems for the west, and backing China's enemies. What's China's response you ask? Non interference. That's right ladies and gentlemen. China practices non interference while the west practices full contact inteference. It doesn't take a genius to figure out who will win, or why the west has the lead right now.

They say never bring a gun to a knife fight, and China is precisely bringing a knife. China thinks that if it matches the west's military, it will survive, but that wont be true. The USSR also matched the US militarily, but look what happened to them. If you don't match the west's soft power, you are doomed.

HK is theoretically over the 20k limit, but guess what? In 2014, the west clapped their hands, and Hongers rioted. Why is that? It's because the Chinese don't have the correct ideology, and do not have anything to pursuade Hongers to be patriotic or loyal to their country. The treasonous Chinese leaders have, in 20 years, done nothing to bring HK closer to China. In fact, we can argue that Hongers are more anti Chinese than they were in 1966. Money, cannot, and does not buy stability. Now, I will tell you, if China responded by creating a riot in NY after the 2014 HK riots, then the west may think twice before starting another one, but as far as we know, the west is indeed planning another one that was bigger than the one in 2014, and as far as we know, China can't control it. The ones who masterminded the riots got a slap on the wrist. This can only tell us that China is in a weakened state. If I were to mastermind such an umbrela revolution in Chicago, I'd probably be facing life in prison.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

Nothing new but bullshit!
Love China needs no reason!
L ike Mother loves her child needs no reason!

China will fall into chaos because it has no ideology to keep the people's loyalty. They have nothing that resonates with the masses. At least in the 60s, China had comunism. Now they have nothing. The only ideology that seems to be in China now is chongyangmeiwai. With correct ideology, there will be stability no matter how poor a country is financially. The richness will only empower the west even more. The west has stated many times that they will, in times of crisis, mobilize the 300 million Chinese bourgeoisie against the Deng dynasty just like they did back in 89. The idea that richness will bring loyalty is a joke. Xingjiang's Rebia Kadir was the richest woman in China. Notice her richness did not make her loyal to China. Wealthy Chinese tends to favor the west, so the bigger the bourgeoisie class grows, the more soldiers the west will have against China. Notice how in my previous post I said that China is going against its own interests. The Chinese leaders are waiting for $20k, so they can help China collapse like the USSR. Or as the Chinese will say, feed this pig til he gets fat before you slaughter it.

HK is theoretically over the 20k limit, but guess what? In 2014, the west clapped their hands, and Hongers rioted. Why is that? It's because the Chinese don't have the correct ideology, and do not have anything to pursuade Hongers to be patriotic or loyal to their country. The treasonous Chinese leaders have, in 20 years, done nothing to bring HK closer to China. In fact, we can argue that Hongers are more anti Chinese than they were in 1966. Money, cannot, and does not buy stability. Now, I will tell you, if China responded by creating a riot in NY after the 2014 HK riots, then the west may think twice before starting another one, but as far as we know, the west is indeed planning another one that was bigger than the one in 2014, and as far as we know, China can't control it. The ones who masterminded the riots got a slap on the wrist. This can only tell us that China is in a weakened state. If I were to mastermind such an umbrela revolution in Chicago, I'd probably be facing life in prison.

 

[DADY]

Actually, there needs to be many reasons, and it's precisely your kind of outlook that has led to China's decline in the past 40yrs. Why do you think Hongers, and Taiwanese are unpatriotic? They weren't always like this. In 1967, Hongers rioted for China against Britain. Today, they are rioting against China for the west. You see, there probably were Chinese who were patriotic at one time, but when they see China selling out its own interests, kowtowing to the west, and Hongers marching against China, they lose faith in their country, and it's natural. Let me bring up another example here. Jet Li, when he was interviewed by Nixon, Nixon told Li, I want you to become my body guard. Li responded by saying I don't want to protect one man, I want to protect my country. Fast fwd 45 yrs later, and one gaigekaifang (Xiaoping reform) later, and guess what happened to Jet Li? He left China and became a Singapore citizen. He said he left because Singapore has a better education system. Go figure. He is a perfect example of how poor leaders can lose even loyal followers. It also goes to show you how without the right ideology, you WILL lose followers, and if you are ignorant of this, then defeat awaits you. I'm going to bring another example. There's a guy in HK called changmao, also known as Leung Kwok Hung. In 1967, he was pro Chinese, and anti British. During the cultural revolution, both he and his mother were patriotic. He and his mother rioted against the British. In 2014, he supported occupy central, and made his living off of challenging China. There are so many stories like it. Li Deng Hui, the Taiwanese sepratist was a comunist during the Mao era. Today, he is staunchly pro Japanese, and anti Chinese.