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J&K assembly polls: Voters defy militants, over 70% turnout recorded so far

Funny how happy the Indians are, just because Kashmiris went out to vote does not mean they love India it only means they are smart enough to know not voting will remove any power their numbers afford to them. Look at Bangladesh and how not voting handed Hasina the previous elections. Boycotts are stupid as hell and always counterproductive.
 
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Another way of looking at it is that you are putting faith in a free and fair election system that you believe will allow you to change your fate how you want it. This does NOT mean you have faith in the GoI as much as you do in the Indian electoral process.

Believe in Indian Electoral Process Process implemented by GOI. It's same thing. The outcome of Indian Electoral Process is a State Govt. Subservient to the GOI. I think the 70% Kashmiri people understand this much. So no intelligent person would vote for a govt. which is subservient to GOI in order to expect freedom from GOI.

So the fate you refer to is - development, growth and good education for their children. It also includes the desire for peace and protection (which I believe IA will deliver) from Militants. People from Punjab, Haryana, Mumbai, Delhi, Arunachal - they all have the same demands. I trust its a good demand to have from GOI.

But I think its more of a internal celebration for GOI, Kashmiris and rest of Indians. I don't think we have any points to make to our neighbours. Just the IA needs some more time to shut off Militants infitration to Kashmir. Once 100% peace is there in Kashmir, it will prove automatically that there is zero internal support to the militancy movement.
 
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Funny how happy the Indians are, just because Kashmiris went out to vote does not mean they love India it only means they are smart enough to know not voting will remove any power their numbers afford to them. Look at Bangladesh and how not voting handed Hasina the previous elections. Boycotts are stupid as hell and always counterproductive.

As per your logic. If B/D people vote - they get pro Pak govt. If B/d people do not vote - they got Hasina which is pro India.

But in case of Kashmir it doesn't apply. Kashmiris vote or do not vote, the Govt would be subservient to GOI. So clearly Kashmirs cannot change the nature of the Govt that comes in Kashmir. The best they could do is reject Indian System of democracy if they do not belive in Indian constitution. But 70% of them voted, which is immense faith in Indian Democracy.

So clearly you cannot compare B/D case with Kashmir.
 
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Aren't you tired of making an ar$e of yourself? Or is the topic on hand getting you so miffed that you just need to ventilate despite that fact that you come across as an ignorant buffoon. Now, I suggest that you pull out your prayer mat and beat yourself with it since you are an embarrassment to your religion. And please, put up your real flags. Or is the green too humiliating for you ?
LoL,yup,typical Indian."Oh,false flagger,must be a mussie,50 center..."blah blah blah.Anything,anything which can be used to justify or discredit an opposing pov,particularly when it goes against their idea of reality constructed by heavy doses of their own propaganda.
A colonial,occupying force trying to sell itself as a responsible and credible entity in the world.If you guys hate it so much why not get out of kashmir,parts of NE which want their right of self-determination.Or is following your own ideals on which you guys gained independence too much to do?
 
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J&K assembly election: Youth in Kupwara want to be part of India, not Pakistan
Sagarika Ghose,TNN | Nov 27, 2014, 07.46 AM IST


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An anti-incumbency sentiment against Omar Abdullah's government is sweeping across the state.

BATGUND (Kupwara): Phiran-clad, ruddy-complexioned students, wage earners and shopkeepers gather at the central market square here to discuss politics and the assembly polls.

Interest in politics is high. Flags with faces of PDP, NC candidates and also Sajjad Lone are strung up across the market. Kupwara in north Kashmir is where NC is strong. But an anti-incumbency sentiment against Omar Abdullah's government is sweeping across the state. "Turnout was high in the first phase because though Omar is young, we hate his government. There's Bandar raj in Kashmir. We want badlav," says student Arshad (18).

Aquib, a Bsc in Mathematics, says the biggest worry for Kupwara's youngsters is unemployment. "We want jobs. We want to go to Mumbai or Bangalore for good jobs. But how can we go there when we have no money?" Arts student Mohammad Kaiser (21) dreams of working for an MNC but feels Kashmiris don't get their due. "We have talented people. We're ready to work hard. But we should get respect in the rest of India.The Centre should recognize our talents. We respect all people from rest of India who visit Kashmir. Why don't they too treat us with love and comradeship?" Arif Mohiuddin has a master's degree in History and Abdul Rashid a Sociology MA. They say even those with advanced degrees work as daily wagers. "I work piling hay though I have an MA. I wish to work in a big Indian city like Bangalore. I love computers."

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Batgund is a ramshackle dirt-poor village, its houses mostly of wood. Agriculture — mainly paddy — is the main activity. The nearest college is 30km away. Locals complain state officials "come from Baramulla or Srinagar, there's none to speak for Kupwara". Cricketer Pervez Rasool and UPSC topper Shah Faisal are spoken of with pride here."There should be no problems in deal ings with rest of India," insists Kai ser. "Islam teaches us to respect all."

What do they think of the film 'Haider'? Many haven't seen it. Among those who have, verdict's unanimous: "Bakwaas film".

Mohammad Shafi, who runs a store, says the film depicts Kashmir as it was years ago. "The biggest problem for us today is that the rich are getting richer while those below poverty line are getting poorer."

Even as the aspiration to be part of the imagined prosperity of big cities like Mumbai or Bangalore is uppermost in rural Kupwara, there's equal pride in Kashmiri identity and Islam.

Says Imtiaz Ahmed Wani, 27: "We believe in Islam and Islamic laws. Islam doesn't permit vulgarity or violence. We don't want Hindustan ka noon in Kashmir, we want our own laws." How do they react to Narendra Modi? "He speaks the language of change, we may not vote for him but everyone wants a better life. We understand his message. But we want a Kashmiri CM," says Abdul Rashid.

Hit by poverty, floods and an uncaring political elite, Kupwara's youth say they can well appreciate why an earlier generation took up the gun but they would never do it.

Says Arif Mohiuddin: "When you have an MA, your parents keep yelling at you to get a job ... something happens to the brain ... Dimaag kharab ho jaata hai.Sometimes you take up the gun. But nobody wants to go down that road anymore.That is a wrong road. We don't want Pakistan here. The youth here has one request for the government: jobs, jobs, jobs."


Perhaps the best antidote to azaadi is growth, the best way to fight militancy is to ensure the aspirational India story comes to Kashmir. Kupwara's young men are bristling to belong to the India of their dreams.

J&K assembly election: Youth in Kupwara want to be part of India, not Pakistan - The Times of India
 
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BATGUND (Kupwara): Phiran-clad, ruddy-complexioned students, wage earners and shopkeepers gather at the central market square here to discuss politics and the assembly polls.

Interest in politics is high. Flags with faces of PDP, NC candidates and also Sajjad Lone are strung up across the market. Kupwara in north Kashmir is where NC is strong. But an anti-incumbency sentiment against Omar Abdullah's government is sweeping across the state. "Turnout was high in the first phase because though Omar is young, we hate his government. There's Bandar raj in Kashmir. We want badlav," says student Arshad (18).

Aquib, a Bsc in Mathematics, says the biggest worry for Kupwara's youngsters is unemployment. "We want jobs. We want to go to Mumbai or Bangalore for good jobs. But how can we go there when we have no money?" Arts student Mohammad Kaiser (21) dreams of working for an MNC but feels Kashmiris don't get their due. "We have talented people. We're ready to work hard. But we should get respect in the rest of India.The Centre should recognize our talents. We respect all people from rest of India who visit Kashmir. Why don't they too treat us with love and comradeship?" Arif Mohiuddin has a master's degree in History and Abdul Rashid a Sociology MA. They say even those with advanced degrees work as daily wagers. "I work piling hay though I have an MA. I wish to work in a big Indian city like Bangalore. I love computers."

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Batgund is a ramshackle dirt-poor village, its houses mostly of wood. Agriculture — mainly paddy — is the main activity. The nearest college is 30km away. Locals complain state officials "come from Baramulla or Srinagar, there's none to speak for Kupwara". Cricketer Pervez Rasool and UPSC topper Shah Faisal are spoken of with pride here."There should be no problems in deal ings with rest of India," insists Kai ser. "Islam teaches us to respect all."

What do they think of the film 'Haider'? Many haven't seen it. Among those who have, verdict's unanimous: "Bakwaas film".

Mohammad Shafi, who runs a store, says the film depicts Kashmir as it was years ago. "The biggest problem for us today is that the rich are getting richer while those below poverty line are getting poorer."

Even as the aspiration to be part of the imagined prosperity of big cities like Mumbai or Bangalore is uppermost in rural Kupwara, there's equal pride in Kashmiri identity and Islam.

Says Imtiaz Ahmed Wani, 27: "We believe in Islam and Islamic laws. Islam doesn't permit vulgarity or violence. We don't want Hindustan ka noon in Kashmir, we want our own laws." How do they react to Narendra Modi? "He speaks the language of change, we may not vote for him but everyone wants a better life. We understand his message. But we want a Kashmiri CM," says Abdul Rashid.

Hit by poverty, floods and an uncaring political elite, Kupwara's youth say they can well appreciate why an earlier generation took up the gun but they would never do it.

Says Arif Mohiuddin: "When you have an MA, your parents keep yelling at you to get a job ... something happens to the brain ... Dimaag kharab ho jaata hai.Sometimes you take up the gun. But nobody wants to go down that road anymore.That is a wrong road. We don't want Pakistan here. The youth here has one request for the government: jobs, jobs, jobs."

Perhaps the best antidote to azaadi is growth, the best way to fight militancy is to ensure the aspirational India story comes to Kashmir. Kupwara's young men are bristling to belong to the India of their dreams.
 
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Wonder what the source of this article is.
 
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Wonder what the source of this article is.

Its an indian source trying to convince other indians

its like the israelis trying to convince themselves thats muslims/arabs in Israel are israelis
 
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BATGUND (Kupwara): Phiran-clad, ruddy-complexioned students, wage earners and shopkeepers gather at the central market square here to discuss politics and the assembly polls.

Interest in politics is high. Flags with faces of PDP, NC candidates and also Sajjad Lone are strung up across the market. Kupwara in north Kashmir is where NC is strong. But an anti-incumbency sentiment against Omar Abdullah's government is sweeping across the state. "Turnout was high in the first phase because though Omar is young, we hate his government. There's Bandar raj in Kashmir. We want badlav," says student Arshad (18).

Aquib, a Bsc in Mathematics, says the biggest worry for Kupwara's youngsters is unemployment. "We want jobs. We want to go to Mumbai or Bangalore for good jobs. But how can we go there when we have no money?" Arts student Mohammad Kaiser (21) dreams of working for an MNC but feels Kashmiris don't get their due. "We have talented people. We're ready to work hard. But we should get respect in the rest of India.The Centre should recognize our talents. We respect all people from rest of India who visit Kashmir. Why don't they too treat us with love and comradeship?" Arif Mohiuddin has a master's degree in History and Abdul Rashid a Sociology MA. They say even those with advanced degrees work as daily wagers. "I work piling hay though I have an MA. I wish to work in a big Indian city like Bangalore. I love computers."

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Batgund is a ramshackle dirt-poor village, its houses mostly of wood. Agriculture — mainly paddy — is the main activity. The nearest college is 30km away. Locals complain state officials "come from Baramulla or Srinagar, there's none to speak for Kupwara". Cricketer Pervez Rasool and UPSC topper Shah Faisal are spoken of with pride here."There should be no problems in deal ings with rest of India," insists Kai ser. "Islam teaches us to respect all."

What do they think of the film 'Haider'? Many haven't seen it. Among those who have, verdict's unanimous: "Bakwaas film".

Mohammad Shafi, who runs a store, says the film depicts Kashmir as it was years ago. "The biggest problem for us today is that the rich are getting richer while those below poverty line are getting poorer."

Even as the aspiration to be part of the imagined prosperity of big cities like Mumbai or Bangalore is uppermost in rural Kupwara, there's equal pride in Kashmiri identity and Islam.

Says Imtiaz Ahmed Wani, 27: "We believe in Islam and Islamic laws. Islam doesn't permit vulgarity or violence. We don't want Hindustan ka noon in Kashmir, we want our own laws." How do they react to Narendra Modi? "He speaks the language of change, we may not vote for him but everyone wants a better life. We understand his message. But we want a Kashmiri CM," says Abdul Rashid.

Hit by poverty, floods and an uncaring political elite, Kupwara's youth say they can well appreciate why an earlier generation took up the gun but they would never do it.

Says Arif Mohiuddin: "When you have an MA, your parents keep yelling at you to get a job ... something happens to the brain ... Dimaag kharab ho jaata hai.Sometimes you take up the gun. But nobody wants to go down that road anymore.That is a wrong road. We don't want Pakistan here. The youth here has one request for the government: jobs, jobs, jobs."

Perhaps the best antidote to azaadi is growth, the best way to fight militancy is to ensure the aspirational India story comes to Kashmir. Kupwara's young men are bristling to belong to the India of their dreams.
Ohhhhh really then India should not waste any time and do referendum in Kashmir doodh ka doodh aur pani ka pani ho jaye ga :-D:-D
 
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