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It seems US wants war

West regimes especially US regime always needs war or some sort of conflict.

It is their reason for being
 
You're talking about country that is full of ancient tribes that needed to be invaded. A few B-2s, 2-3 carrier strike groups, including multiple Virginia class subs....Iran has no chance, which is why they did nothing after Stuxnet. That is why they made a deal in the first place. You don't make deals from a position of strength.

What are you talking about?

Afghanistan was a major miscalculation by Bush and the dick Cheney. They thought they would make the Taliban take the knee within a few months but the war is still going and america is looking for a way out.

2-3 carrier strike groups, b-2s and multiple Virginia class subs do not hold vast areas of land. You need troops for that. You need a supply chain and you need a flourishing economy.

Iran did not do anything after stuxnet because they knew Obama would deal. It is in their interest to do push for a deal and they did that with trump also. It is not a show of weakness. Might is not always right.
 
What are you talking about?

Afghanistan was a major miscalculation by Bush and the dick Cheney. They thought they would make the Taliban take the knee within a few months but the war is still going and america is looking for a way out.

2-3 carrier strike groups, b-2s and multiple Virginia class subs do not hold vast areas of land. You need troops for that. You need a supply chain and you need a flourishing economy.

Iran did not do anything after stuxnet because they knew Obama would deal. It is in their interest to do push for a deal and they did that with trump also. It is not a show of weakness. Might is not always right.

We don't want to hold Iranian land.
 
We don't want to hold Iranian land.

Then what is the point? How will you win?

You want to pay 5-10$ for gas at home.. give a fuckin break. Sending young 19-20 year olds to go die for what? so that you can feel cool.... Think for a few seconds for the first time in your life. I drive down the road here in New York and I feel like I am in the roller coaster and idiots like you are pushing for a war in Iran.

I bet 90% of the military don't want war with Iran but we have Rambos like you.. E-thugging it up.
 
Then what is the point? How will you win?

You want to pay 5-10$ for gas at home.. give a fuckin break. Sending young 19-20 year olds to go die for what? so that you can feel cool.... Think for a few seconds for the first time in your life. I drive down the road here in New York and I feel like I am in the roller coaster and idiots like you are pushing for a war in Iran.

I bet 90% of the military don't want war with Iran but we have Rambos like you.. E-thugging it up.

I am extremely anti-war. Winning in Iran is the clerics being removed from power. That can be done by the people, or by targeted strikes. We aren't letting Iran get the bomb. Period. This gives the excuse to make sure it doesn't happen.
 
I am extremely anti-war. Winning in Iran is the clerics being removed from power. That can be done by the people, or by targeted strikes. We aren't letting Iran get the bomb. Period. This gives the excuse to make sure it doesn't happen.

Yeah, I can tell you are extremely anti-war. You cannot win against ideas with guns. Only Ideas beat ideas and targeted strikes cannot change that fact.

Every Great nation has its end and at the end the country is over taken by incompetent leaders. Rome had Nero, who laughed from the balcony when Rome was being burned. America is unfortunate to have this retard who with a tweet is starting wars..
 
Afghanistan se farigh nahi huay, Iran main jang lag gaee.

Seems it will take another 40 years to see calm on our Western border.

If war breaks out between Iran and US, Pakistan should forget about reko diq gold, oil exploration and CPEC for a few more decades.
 
I am extremely anti-war. Winning in Iran is the clerics being removed from power. That can be done by the people, or by targeted strikes. We aren't letting Iran get the bomb. Period. This gives the excuse to make sure it doesn't happen.

lmao, You can't give that assurance, period. You make it seem the United States can just waltz into Iran like it was a Tuesday at grandmas house.

There is no scenario in which the U.S. just initiates an air campaign against Iranian nuclear assets without reaping heavy losses and don't try and undermine what Iran can do.
 
Yeah, I can tell you are extremely anti-war. You cannot win against ideas with guns. Only Ideas beat ideas and targeted strikes cannot change that fact.

Every Great nation has its end and at the end the country is over taken by incompetent leaders. Rome had Nero, who laughed from the balcony when Rome was being burned. America is unfortunate to have this retard who with a tweet is starting wars..

Nuclear facilities that were out of reach 10 years ago are not "ideas", and they can be defeated.

Of course US hegemony will end someday. But not in our lifetime.
 
Here is an even more important question. Does Iran have the ability to confront the U.S. directly after this? My answer is no.
On US mainland? No. Lucky for them there are all those US bases around it with thousands of troops put there to die for Israel. Also they control the Straits of Hormuz where most of the world's oil flows through. Creating problems at those straits is an excellent way to fight us assymetrically by attacking our economy.
 
On US mainland? No. Lucky for them there are all those US bases around it with thousands of troops put there to die for Israel. Also they control the Straits of Hormuz where most of the world's oil flows through. Creating problems at those straits is an excellent way to fight us assymetrically by attacking our economy.

Yeah there are bases around it. But that means Iran is nearby them as well. They willing to try that? And trying to control the Straits of Hormuz by blockading or mining it is pretty much challenging the U.S. directly because we won't stand for it. No doubt about it!
 
Nuclear facilities that were out of reach 10 years ago are not "ideas", and they can be defeated.

Of course US hegemony will end someday. But not in our lifetime.

If America attacks them, then Nuclear weapon will be built for sure.... It will only be a matter of time.
 
Here is an even more important question. Does Iran have the ability to confront the U.S. directly after this? My answer is no.

Agree. Iran doesn't have the ability to reach out to USA shores and challenge it. But is it really the scenario the USA is trying to avoid? Existence of Iran in its own region is a matter of displeasure to USA.
 
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