Istanbul rocked by alleged Erdogan corruption call

[-SINAN-]

Not really.
Secularists exist. By their own admission.
All the retards bashing Erdogan just because he is an "islamistssss" are secularist..
Secularists are people who impose their views on others. For example, previously, Hijabs were banned in Turkey's institutions..lmao!!! What utter tools.
Anyways, thanks for showing your real face here. No need to discuss anything with you.
Real face? Thanks for showing your real intellect here..No wonder majority of turks aren't like you. Otherwise, Turkey would've been like Congo or something. lol

What is up with you Islamist guys, adding lols at the end of your posts.That "lol" at the end supposed to make your post funny ?

 

[AUz]

What is up with you Islamist guys, adding lols at the end of your posts.That "lol" at the end supposed to make your post funny ?

hahaha, whats up with you hitlerists guys? Can't even take simple 'lol'? Calm down.

Btw, @Sinan Is Turkey an "islamist" country? Since majority voted for "islamist" AKP?

 

[-SINAN-]

hahaha, whats up with you hitlerists guys? Can't even take simple 'lol'? Calm down.

Still.... unbelievable.

Btw, @Sinan Is Turkey an "islamist" country? Since majority voted for "islamist" AKP?

Turkey is a secular country, funny boy.

 

[AUz]

Turkey is a secular country, funny boy.

But why do majority of Turks vote for "Islamistttttttttt" party then?

 

[Hakan]

Yeah yeah yeah. We terrorize our own people and that is why PKK has majority of support among Kurds and Kurdish regions. How long will you believe these lies of yourselves? You can terrorize 10 people, 100 people, 1000 people, 10000 people but you can not terrorize millions of people to support you. It is only natural for Kurds to support whichever side that supports them. Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

They dont have majority support. They intimidate people not to vote so it just appears as though the PKK has support. We know your PKK is a tool to destroy Turkey and shrink its territory just as it will be used to shrink Iraqi and syrian territory. The more countries that are created in the middle east the worse it is for Muslims.

PKK using intimidation tactics:
PKK 'officially' collecting money using intimidation tactics - Today's Zaman, your gateway to Turkish daily news

PKK gives death threats to Kurdish Intellectuals:
Kurdish intellectuals condemn PKK threats, intimidation - Today's Zaman, your gateway to Turkish daily news



(Don't assume the sources represent my political beliefs @turkish members)

 

[-SINAN-]

But why do majority of Turks vote for "Islamistttttttttt" party then?

You may consider to re-read the thread. We explained multiple times and i don't like repeating myself.

@Kaan waste of time bro.... Believe me, we tried.

 

[AUz]

You may consider to re-read the thread. We explained multiple times and i don't like repeating myself.

@Kaan waste of time bro.... Believe me, we tried.

I did. Only thing I could find was "Oh Erdogan gives like 20 lira to people to show up in his public gatherings etc etc"...is that your main point?

Again, tell me, why did majority of Turks voted him if he is an "islamist"?

 

[Shah9]

Maybe its just propaganda and some third party is conspiring to turn the people against Erdogan.

Yeah seems so, look at 2013 with opposition parties attacking Erdogan at the same time Western countries and the media attacking him. I think this was Gezi time. Coincidence?

Question is why would someone talk something illegally through the telephone when they know they are monitored? Even an average person knows this. Am I thinking of "The Bourne Supremacy"?

 

[Bahoz]

They dont have majority support. They intimidate people not to vote so it just appears as though the PKK has support. We know your PKK is a tool to destroy Turkey and shrink its territory just as it will be used to shrink Iraqi and syrian territory. The more countries that are created in the middle east the worse it is for Muslims.

PKK using intimidation tactics:
PKK 'officially' collecting money using intimidation tactics - Today's Zaman, your gateway to Turkish daily news

PKK gives death threats to Kurdish Intellectuals:
Kurdish intellectuals condemn PKK threats, intimidation - Today's Zaman, your gateway to Turkish daily news



(Don't assume the sources represent my political beliefs @turkish members)

Your source= Invalid. We have been hearing about these lies for many years. There is no way you can fool anyone. PKK has majority of Kurdish support. You can not intimidate or pressure the majority to vote for you.

 

[Hakan]

You may consider to re-read the thread. We explained multiple times and i don't like repeating myself.

@Kaan waste of time bro.... Believe me, we tried.

I tried and have realized that there is no point. thanks for the advice anyway.

 

[Pakistanisage]

I tried and have realized that there is no point. thanks for the advice anyway.

No Point because you don't have the weight of Logic on your side and don't have a leg to stand on. Most Turks vote for this Islamist Party AKP because most Turks are " Islamist ". which means Secularist like yourself are a Vanishing Breed.

Because you guys are a minority in Turkey, you are condemned to live under the yoke of an " Islamist Party ". You can moan and groan all you want, at the end of the day you will still be living under an " Islamist Party " called AKP.

Long live Recep Tayyip Erdogan......

 

[-SINAN-]

I did. Only thing I could find was "Oh Erdogan gives like 20 lira to people to show up in his public gatherings etc etc"...is that your main point?

Again, tell me, why did majority of Turks voted him if he is an "islamist"?

My answer not gonna change because that you asked the same question twice.

 

[AUz]

My answer not gonna change because that you asked the same question twice.

You never gave me an answer.

Please give your honest answer. I wanna learn

 

[TurAr]

No Point because you don't have the weight of Logic on your side and don't have a leg to stand on. Most Turks vote for this Islamist Party AKP because most Turks are " Islamist ". which means Secularist like yourself are a Vanishing Breed.

Because you guys are a minority in Turkey, you are condemned to live under the yoke of an " Islamist Party ". You can moan and groan all you want, at the end of the day you will still be living under an " Islamist Party " called AKP.

Long live Recep Tayyip Erdogan......

More secular, green Turkey wanted: Poll
ISTANBUL

A recent survery shows that a majority of Turkish people want secularism to be included in the country’s new charter, adding that the new charter should be in line with Atatürk’s principles

An overwhelming majority of Turkish people want secularism to be included in the country’s new charter, a recent survey conducted by KONDA for the Turkish Economic and Social Studies Foundation (TESEV) has revealed.

Almost 90 percent of survey participants said the country should be defined as secular in the new Constitution. Some 50.6 percent said the definition of secularism should be kept as it is, and 40.7 percent said secularism should be “redefined to keep an equal distance from all religions.”

Only 8.7 percent of the participants said the new charter should not include secularism, with 18.9 percent of the participants defining themselves as “Islamists” when asked about their political orientation.

The survey was conducted through face-to-face interviews with 2,699 people of various ages and social groups across 29 provinces on Sept. 22 and 23.

The new Constitution should also be in line with the principles of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, the founder of the modern Turkish Republic, a majority of those surveyed said. Some 82 percent agreed that the charter must include “Atatürk’s principles and revolutions and Atatürk nationalism,” as it currently does.

However, the number drops to 68.8 percent when asked if Ankara should be kept as the capital city, with almost 30 percent saying it is not a must.

HDN When asked about the official language and language of education, 70.9 percent of participants said both the official language and the language of education should be Turkish.

Just over 14 percent said the official language must be Turkish but other languages could be used in education, while 14.9 percent said different languages could be both official and used in schools.

The participants also said the Religious Affairs Directorate should remain as a constitutional institution to regulate religion, however, 84.1 percent believe that the directorate, which has been under constant criticism for catering to the needs of Sunni Muslims, should be of service to all religions and sects.

Turkish people are almost equally divided on the issue of compulsory religious lessons in schools. Half of the participants said the classes should be mandatory, while 46.3 percent said they should be elective and 3.6 percent said religion classes should be completely abolished.

Consistent with previously conducted surveys, the top issues that Turkish people want the new Constitution to emphasize are “justice” and “equality.”

More secular, green Turkey wanted: Poll - LOCAL

 

[TurAr]

But why do majority of Turks vote for "Islamistttttttttt" party then?

Doesn't matter if you are an Islamist, fascist, socialist, pacifist, or whatever. If you can handle and improve the country's economy, which AKP managed so far, you are gonna get plenty of votes here.

As for their Islamic agenda, they've always kept a low profile when pursuing it. They haven't introduced anything sensational because they know, by so doing they can't survive.

For further answers, see the article above.