Israel ready to launch a military offensive against Iran

[A1Kaid]

Very interesting Muradk.

I suppose this maybe more saber-rattling to encourage the international community to take further action against Iran's nuclear development for "peaceful civil energy".

Now I am aware MOSSAD has been spying on Iranian nuclear sites, gathering intel on the locations of Iran's nuclear facilities.

Now if there is to be a "military offensive" against Iran, it will most likely come in the form of Air Strikes just like Israel bombed Iraq's Osiraq Nuclear Facility in late 1980's. The problem is Israel does not know where every single Nuclear Facility is or where the major ones are hidden. However, they know where some of them are, and the Israelis have purchased "bunker busters" to be able to reach these underground Iranian nuclear facilities.


Now suppose Israel does begin to strike at these Nuclear facilities. I am sure Iran will activate it's Hezbollah ally to conduct operations against the Zionist regime. I am also sure the Iranian Air Force will immediately take action against Israeli Fighter Jets over their skies and even beyond the Iranian border, but limited to the Middle East region.

I am sure Iranian pilots have been training for such an event to take place, as they say it was the Persians who invented chess, and of course the Iranians today have planned their steps ahead of time.

If Iran is struck by Israel, you can also bet that Iran will fire it's missiles and burn Israel, the Israelis of course will rely on their AM systems to shoot down incoming missiles.

 

[Shiny Capstar]

You mean glowing like Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

Don't see what they have to do with this but yes.

Iran has the exact same reason for acquiring nukes, survival. They want to be balanced in the arms race, its called "arms for peace". Bullies are created only when one guy is more powerful then the other. They want an equal standing, if they are nuked tomorrow by Israel, they need the power to retaliate.

Who is preaching for Iran's destruction?

America has invaded both of its neighbors under the slogan of war on terror, they have even labeled Iran as part of the axis of evil. How likely is it that the US will invade Iran rather then Iran will invade the US? its like a 1 to 0 probability. IF on the other hand Iran gets hold of nukes, i do not think the US will make the mistake of invading them.

Why would the US invade Iran? Bombing the c*ap out of them would be a lot easier. Yes conventionally we (Western forces) could roll all over Iran's military but we would be faced with a massive guerilla war, one that would be far too bloody and would be for so little gain to even bother contemplating.

That's a matter of personal opinion, general sentiment around the world says otherwise. Not just Islamic countries but generally everyone.

Which point is a matter of personal opinion? And please do find some statements made by leaders of countries that support what you are saying.

 

[Shiny Capstar]

1) OK in that case to take your example to contrast we can say that Pakistan has every right to bomb India back to the stone age after the BJP announce that it would like to Nuke Pakistan after its test.

In that case Pakistan had every right to defend itself.

2) I love how you preach violence on the innocents. Want to see Iranians to glow

When did I say that?

Do you want to see jewish people glow as Iran has the Highest population of jews ?

I don't see what religion has to do with any of this, I am talking about states not religious groups.

(Even more than Israel) YOU really would make Hitler pround I wonder if you have any connection to the SS with that stupid comment.

Now that just takes the biscuit, you are suggesting that I am a piece of Nazi scum. Most of my families lineage was destroyed and a lot of my family were killed in the war against them, not just in fighting. One relative was shot just for being Jewish. Heck even my grandparents split all connections with their home country after they surrendered to the Nazi's.
If you are going to call me a Nazi I am going to call you inhuman scum, if you make personal attacks so shall I.

For all the post on this site I have read this is has to be the dumbest
If Israel nuke Gaza wouldn't ISrael be part of the blast I mean Gaza is just a strip
OF COURSE THEY WOULDN'T NUKE GAZA but hell they would use conventional means to wipe them out which they were doing way back in 1940.s

I know they would not nuke them, I was just saying that they wouldn't in advance because some idiots are so fixated on the idea that Israel wants to wipe out Palestine that they would say that they would. Yes some Israelis did very bad things back in the 40's, you will not find me advocating those murders. Don't forget that we lost a fair few soldiers to Israeli terrorism ourselves.

AT least Iran spoke of "wiping Israel of the map" but Israel went on a haulciust spree to wipe out Palistinan and Labanese people of the map. Ask any IDF and they will give you their war report literly.

What has Israel done to wipe out the Palestinian or Lebanese people? They certainly could have if they wanted to. In the recent operations in Gaza they took more measures to reduce civilian casualties than have been taken before in almost all operations of that scale and against heavily urbanised areas. I do know IDF soldiers who in the 2006 Lebanon war were getting very frustrated at not being able to strike groups firing rockets into Israel as they were firing from apartment blocks and the like. There are bad apples in all armies so some would be looking to kill people for no reason but that is by no means the majority

Now I know you are not from the UK cus people there don't make retarded comments
Seriously.
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I grew up in Newcastle, and now live down here in the south after being based near here for a while with my Regiment. I know you are not from Britain despite what your profile shows by how you say 'there', that or you just have appalling English.

 

[Shiny Capstar]

What rights??, and don't think the Persian's will still back and watch. They will reply back in minutes, with hundreds of missles flying at Israel.

The capability to do so has not yet been tested.

 

[S-2]

Quit trying to be so damned lucid and coherant.

Rant more or post elsewhere.

You're an embarassment to the British Army, sir.

 

[Muradk]

The capability to do so has not yet been tested.

Shiny Capstar could you please share with the forum about your self and your military experience.Are you currently serving or retired.
By the way you said that what Israel did in the 40s was wrong, but in the last 4 years they have killed thousands of men women and children ( civilian's ) what about them. Does Israel have justification and please don't say that they bombed the crap out of them with F-16S BECAUSE 2 Army guys were kidnapped by Hamas.

 

[Jihad]

I got the feeling Netanyahu is going to have something in plan for Iran.
I don't get it, Israel is allowed to have nukes, but Iran isn't.
If Iran had nukes, i'm sure the equality of power in the Middle-East would be completely balanced, and we most likely wouldn't see any one-sided Palestinian massacre anymore.
I feel these warmongering Israelis have not shed enough blood in the Gaza strip and want to go even further then that.
These Israeli politicians and especially Netanyahu is threatening Iran to gain sympathy and popularity among his own people so that he can be the leader of Israel instead of Livni.
Anyways, I wonder what the U.S. will do about this, especially Obama.

 

[Shiny Capstar]

Quit trying to be so damned lucid and coherant.

Rant more or post elsewhere.

You're an embarassment to the British Army, sir.

Hmmm.... we need to bomb Iran back to the stone age or else the evil terrorists will overrun all of our countries and destroy our beloved international Zionism!!! (How was that?)

 

[Muradk]

Hmmm.... we need to bomb Iran back to the stone age or else the evil terrorists will overrun all of our countries and destroy our beloved international Zionism!!! (How was that?)

Now that came from your heart ( How is that ).
You haven't answered my question about your self????????

 

[Shiny Capstar]

Shiny Capstar could you please share with the forum about your self and your military experience.Are you currently serving or retired.
By the way you said that what Israel did in the 40s was wrong, but in the last 4 years they have killed thousands of men women and children ( civilian's ) what about them. Does Israel have justification and please don't say that they bombed the crap out of them with F-16S BECAUSE 2 Army guys were kidnapped by Hamas.

I shall gladly share details in PM's even, but not on the open forum.

Now, yes Israel does have justification. They have been attacked with rockets consistently for long enough by anyone's standard to justify striking back. They needed to not just strike at the terrorist infrastructure but strike those firing rockets into their country and those firing the rockets were firing from built up areas in which there were civilians. Trying to hide behind a human shield of sorts. It was that which led to so many civilian casualties, it is the groups which were firing the rockets who are responsible for the amount of civilian casualties that we have seen (there will always be some) as they know that firing from where they were firing would bring in retaliation, yet they fire them anyway. The retaliatory strikes kill civilians and actually help their (the terrorists) cause as it gains them more support, at least among those who were not in the area the strike was brought into.
You cannot expect Israel to just sit and take it, sending out a message that if you are in an area where there are civilians you can hit them as much as you like.

If someone is attacking your country for so long with the sole intention of killing your civilians you strike back at those striking you, sadly those striking Israel often hide behind civilian human shields. That does not however change the fact that you should strike back.

In the 1940's there were some who were purposefully trying to wipe out civilians, it is different now.

 

[Shiny Capstar]

Now that came from your heart ( How is that ).
You haven't answered my question about your self????????

You missed out calling me a puppet of the Zionists controlling the west but apart from that, great.

 

[Rehmat]

Zionist entity's last 60 year aggression regard shows that they are only good for attacking the stone-throwers or civilians. But when it comes to regular armies of its enemies - it always beg American assistance.

After being humiliated by Hizb'Allah in 2006 - Zionists would be committing suicide to attack the more powerful Hizb'Allah - Islamic Iran.

 

[ARSENAL6]

Now that just takes the biscuit, you are suggesting that I am a piece of Nazi scum. Most of my families lineage was destroyed and a lot of my family were killed in the war against them, not just in fighting. One relative was shot just for being Jewish. Heck even my grandparents split all connections with their home country after they surrendered to the Nazi's.
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Aside with the name calling that both of us can deal with out, Shining Capster what about my Friends Uncle who 2006 was shot by Israeli sniper or another friend of mine who got Bombed by Israel UAV again 2006. Or what about the Israel running over civillains


Having someone you known killed is one thing but then having the media dancing on thier grave like they deserved to die in that manner, Now that got to me.

As for the terrorist like 7/7 Like you said theres bad apple in all walks of the life by no means they represent the majority. Ie Most Practicing Muslims do not preach hate.

 

[Muradk]

You missed out calling me a puppet of the Zionists controlling the west but apart from that, great.

will wait for your PM, You can check my background by asking anyone. I am only interested, I might learn a few things from people coming from different Forces. That is all.

 

[araz]

I shall gladly share details in PM's even, but not on the open forum.

Now, yes Israel does have justification. They have been attacked with rockets consistently for long enough by anyone's standard to justify striking back. They needed to not just strike at the terrorist infrastructure but strike those firing rockets into their country and those firing the rockets were firing from built up areas in which there were civilians. Trying to hide behind a human shield of sorts. It was that which led to so many civilian casualties, it is the groups which were firing the rockets who are responsible for the amount of civilian casualties that we have seen (there will always be some) as they know that firing from where they were firing would bring in retaliation, yet they fire them anyway. The retaliatory strikes kill civilians and actually help their (the terrorists) cause as it gains them more support, at least among those who were not in the area the strike was brought into.
You cannot expect Israel to just sit and take it, sending out a message that if you are in an area where there are civilians you can hit them as much as you like.

If someone is attacking your country for so long with the sole intention of killing your civilians you strike back at those striking you, sadly those striking Israel often hide behind civilian human shields. That does not however change the fact that you should strike back.

In the 1940's there were some who were purposefully trying to wipe out civilians, it is different now.

Hi !
Shiny capstar, would you like to comment on the first 5 months of the cease fire, during which no rockets were fired. The rockets started being fired after the isaraeli Blockade continuing without justification
Secondly, would you also like to comment on why the british can deal with Shin fein(SP??)with its known links to IRA, but the Israelis cant deal with the elected representatives of the people of the West bank.
Thank you .
Araz