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Israel & Pakistani View: Is that correct?

Extremists always play on insecurity among masses. The key to success is to beat the terrorists in their own game: Address their insecurities, sentiments and frustration! Rob extremists off the very ground, they stand on.

That's the long term & conclusive solution...
 
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There is military trade and military trade. Mind telling me what was sold to china recently?:)

Well, it is commonly believed that the J-10 is a derivative from the IAI Lavi (which was cancelled due to US pressure).

According to Wikipedia, China did import a wide variety of military equipment and satellite systems from Israel. The exact details are unknown.

It is also said that Israel did have the intention to export military goods to China, but still very limited due to US pressure. The Americans don't want their technology to be exported to China. But China's intention to move into more closer ties with Israel is pretty apparent.

Some time back, they wanted the Israeli Phancon, but couldn't since it has US technology.

Some high ranking PLA officials did visit Israeli recently.

China, Israel take steps to resume military ties*|*China Military Power Mashup
Chen's planned Israeli trip signals a thaw|World|chinadaily.com.cn
Chinese Chief of Staff to Visit Israel - Inside Israel - News - Israel National News

There is scope for China-Israel trade as far as military technology goes, but limited due to US pressure. The Americans are probably afraid that the Chinese would copy their technologies. China is known to be pretty notorious in copy right and trade mark violations - something that not even the US can do anything to enforce it.
 
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Well, it is commonly believed that the J-10 is a derivative from the IAI Lavi (which was cancelled due to US pressure).

According to Wikipedia, China did import a wide variety of military equipment and satellite systems from Israel. The exact details are unknown.

It is also said that Israel did have the intention to export military goods to China, but still very limited due to US pressure. The Americans don't want their technology to be exported to China. But China's intention to move into more closer ties with Israel is pretty apparent.

Some time back, they wanted the Israeli Phancon, but couldn't since it has US technology.

Some high ranking PLA officials did visit Israeli recently.

China, Israel take steps to resume military ties*|*China Military Power Mashup
Chen's planned Israeli trip signals a thaw|World|chinadaily.com.cn
Chinese Chief of Staff to Visit Israel - Inside Israel - News - Israel National News

There is scope for China-Israel trade as far as military technology goes, but limited due to US pressure. The Americans are probably afraid that the Chinese would copy their technologies. China is known to be pretty notorious in copy right and trade mark violations - something that not even the US can do anything to enforce it.

And the Chinese Military Chief is visiting Israel this week, but you still didn`t answer the part about recent military acquisitions.
It`s a good thing to have good ties with all nations but every nation has friends and friendly nations, a very big difference between the two.
 
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So, if they are there to prevent that, why are they leaving: there has been very limited capacity building of Afghans, as yet, the Taliban, still, have a lot of clout. Occupation never solves problems, they should have let Taliban extradiate OBL, tried him in court & sent a message that see he did wrong, we got him. Mind ur own business, and we mind ours. Further, they could have spent the trillions of dollars on homeland security.

The Taliban refused to hand over OBL to the Americans - fact. If they did go by with what you are saying, they would have done so already 10 years ago. And none of this nonsense would have taken place anyways.

I agree, occupations do not solve anything. The key mistake the Americans made was that they ignored Afghanistan, and allowed to rot in civil war.

It's logical that it would have been better spent on Homeland Security, but they thought since Afghanistan was in the stone ages, it would be cheap and easy. Aaaannd...they were wrong! :lol: And of-course there was Iraq which was a complete disaster.

And Pakistan can do very well without America's concerns. TTP is a CIA offshoot, my father has served in ISI & I know this very well. Twice in 2007, we pinpointed the location of Mehsud to CIA & both the times they helped evacuate him, instead of sending in a drone. We also know what for Mr Davis was here. We also know why US does not let us fence the Pak-Afg border.

What! Seriously? Well, I have suspected something fishy about some US elements in Afghanistan. I mean, Afghanistan is the world's largest exporter of heroin. I am pretty sure that those drug operations aren't managed by a bunch of illiterate villagers. Yep, there is something fishy.

Pakistan should try its best to secure a strong foothold on itself, even if that means taking out those mysterious foreign elements.

The last war was lost by Israelis, please. And the root cause of extremism has been oppression. The day Palestine, Kashmir & oppression elsewhere ceases, we will know peace, atleast brighter than today.

Whatever strange plans some lunatics in The Knesset had for Lebanon, it failed - end of story. Israel can never go in and occupy neighboring Arab countries, it's impossible - a pipe dream!

But main point is that whatever strange plans some gringos are planning, Muslims should stand firm according to their national interests. And yes, patriotism is important. Whoever Pakistanis are collaborating with those foreign elements, they should be tried for treason.

Conclusion:

Extremists always prey on insecurity among masses. The key to success is to beat the terrorists in their own game: Address their insecurities, sentiments and frustration! Rob extremists off the very ground, they stand on.

That's the long term & conclusive solution...

Hopefully the Allies understand that, other than going into full-fledged wars!
 
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The Taliban refused to hand over OBL to the Americans - fact. If they did go by with what you are saying, they would have done so already 10 years ago. And none of this nonsense would have taken place anyways.


Sure, they did not offer a direct hand over but the Taliban were willing to extradiate Bin Laden to a third country, obviously except US. And, we all know very well that US could always have got him from there.

As for the rest of points, I am glad to have found common ground.

:)
 
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So not an actual axis then, except in fertile minds of few Pakistanis?
 
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Never mind :lol: It's just for fun ;)

Israel being a democracy and good technology, it's a pretty cool country if we leave out all the politics.

yes. Israel is always ready to make good relation with other countries. Diplomatic relations with countries like Bangladesh is very important to them.It will give them a lot of validity to Muslim World. Bangladesh will be benefited a lot from such relation both militarily and economically. For example look at Azerbaijan. Israel was one of the counties who recognized Bangladesh very early. But Bangladesh from its birth walked to opposite direction. And to me it is justified. Personally i have nothing against Jews. But they are killing our brothers.. their birth is on the dead bodies of our brothers...
 
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Not on Anti-Islam, but even anti-Humanity..
Just tell us who wanders in the streets raping girls and harassing kids?
Who goes all around searching for people to kill? Israelis.
There isin't a worse Nation than Israel... or is there any?

If you see some Israeli terrorists (aka in Army uniform) entering your home. Wont you fight them to save your wife from getting raped and your children getting chopped off or used as human shields? And when you fight them, you get killed saying that you were a terrorist trying to kill the real terrorist... insane..
Sir don't mind me asking this that on one side you are naming your missile after gauri{due to respect}..and on the other hand you are calling Israelies as inhuman......if you go through their deeds you will find out that gauri did the same thing with ajmer what Israelies are doing with Palestine ....so why do you have double standards....
 
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