Israel Cannot be an Apartheid State

[Solomon2]

That's not relevant to the topic at all, you are just trying to make my position look bad without tackling the actual subject at hand.

You've already conceded the right of the Jews to re-settle within the Mandate. You then asked a question with a presumed basis. You're not ready to challenge the presumed basis: you are poised to simply deny anything I bring to the table, just as the flat-earthers do.

 

[Hamza913]

You've already conceded the right of the Jews to re-settle within the Mandate. You then asked a question with a presumed basis. You're not ready to challenge the presumed basis: you are poised to simply deny anything I bring to the table, just as the flat-earthers do.

No, I never said that. I have always said Jews can migrate to and live in Palestine, so long as they live under Arab rule and do not attempt to gain autonomy or impose their rule over the Arabs.

You haven't brought anything to the table. There's nothing to debunk. Either bring something or stop wasting my time.

 

[Solomon2]

No, I never said that. I have always said Jews can migrate to and live in Palestine, so long as they live under Arab rule -

Ah, that's the result you WANT. But is that supported by the historical record leading up to the establishment of the State of Israel? That's what you have to investigate, pro- and con-.

 

[Hamza913]

Ah, that's the result you WANT. But is that supported by the historical record leading up to the establishment of the State of Israel? That's what you have to investigate, pro- and con-.

That's the fair result, why should the Arabs accept rule imposed upon them by foreign immigrants who are not native to Palestine?

 

[Jungibaaz]

Israel cannot not be what it already is. Israel's actions are characterised as apartheid by those very same South Africans who fought against it.

 

[LeGenD]

It's not just about being righteous, that's to do with whether or not I will support the state.

Legitimacy, for me, is determined by whether or not Israel has a valid reason for its formation.

Hebrews settled in Palestine thousands of years earlier and established Kingdom of Israel in the region which was uprooted by foreign forces twice. However, jews have resided in Palestine non-stop.

Modern-era Israel emerged in response to Soviet and European persecutions of Jewish minorities in their respective regions. Now that Israel exit, Palestinians should come to terms with this reality and file for Israeli citizenship.

I see no point in questioning the existence of Israel, otherwise existence of virtually every modern-era state can be questioned. This is a Pandora box.

 

[Hamza913]

Hebrews settled in Palestine thousands of years earlier and established Kingdom of Israel in the region which was uprooted by foreign forces twice. However, jews have resided in Palestine non-stop.

Modern-era Israel emerged in response to Soviet and European persecutions of Jewish minorities in their respective regions. Now that Israel exit, Palestinians should come to terms with this reality and file for Israeli citizenship.

I see no point in questioning the existence of Israel, otherwise existence of virtually every modern-era state can be questioned. This is a Pandora box.

Asalamu Alaikum

And what evidence do modern day Jews have that they are descended from the previous Hebrews?

Israel should have been set up in Nazi Germany, they did the holocaust, not the Palestinians.

I see no validity to Israel's existence.

 

[LeGenD]

And what evidence do modern day Jews have that they are descended from the previous Hebrews?

You will find answers in this article: https://academic.oup.com/jlb/article/2/2/469/826237

Israel should have been set up in Nazi Germany, they did the holocaust, not the Palestinians.

I see no validity to Israel's existence.

They chose a piece of land where they have over 2000 years of history and have owned property (make sense to me). British Empire established modern-era Israel much like other states in the Middle East and elsewhere.

Questioning the validity of existence of Israel is pointless. It happened and we need to embrace this reality.

 

[Hamza913]

You will find answers in this article: https://academic.oup.com/jlb/article/2/2/469/826237


They chose a piece of land where they have over 2000 years of history and have owned property (make sense to me). British Empire established modern-era Israel much like other states in the Middle East and elsewhere.

Questioning the validity of existence of Israel is pointless. It happened and we need to embrace this reality.

I still doubt that every Jew has Hebrew ancestry, and even if they did, the Palestinians are also children of Ibrahim (Peace Be Upon Him).

No, the Germans did the holocaust, not the Palestinians. They should face the consequences, not the Palestinians.

 

[The Accountant]

You will find answers in this article: https://academic.oup.com/jlb/article/2/2/469/826237


They chose a piece of land where they have over 2000 years of history and have owned property (make sense to me). British Empire established modern-era Israel much like other states in the Middle East and elsewhere.

Questioning the validity of existence of Israel is pointless. It happened and we need to embrace this reality.

So out of no where British seems to recognise religion as the base of nationality ? why this rinciple was not followed for muslims ? Why they were divided based on ethinicity ?

Based on ethinicity Israel belongs to arabs living in palestine as they keep on changing religion based on time ...

If you are supporting ISrael instance then you should give away Pakisn's land to Hindus and should move to KSA (only if they allows you to enter) ...