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It is smaller and can carry lesser payload, range, men, speed and the AIP has a shorter time frame but this is still good enough compared to other submarines2nd strike capability is a must for Pakistan, sooner we attain better it will be. If Pakistan is able to use Babur LACM from its submarines it would be a great step and the the country would become safer than before.
One more thing, apart from the absence of AIP what are the other differences between S-20 and Yuan class?
What I have heard and read from different sources almost all say AIP is absent, but you say something different. Can you state the source?AIP has a shorter time frame
I say this because there is an option for upgradation to AIP for anyone who buys these submarines. Pakistan already has 3 AIP equipped submarines so why would it knowingly downgrade? Even if it does it will buy the AIP's for its submarines later as it is inevitable in current scenario.What I have heard and read from different sources almost all say AIP is absent, but you say something different. Can you state the source?
You are living a third class living standard as a muslim in india and are confused about your identity and yet here on online forums showing your loyalty to india.You look ready for ghar wapisi?In ancient times the land known as Bharat Varsh or Jambu Dweep or Aryavart was the land shown in the map of Akhand Bharat. Today's Bharat is khandit Bharat and not Akhand. Tell any staunch hindu nationalist in India if he would like Pakistan or Bangladesh to merge, his answer will be NO WAY.... it was a good riddance. This Akhand Bharat refers only to where hindu civilization was born and flourished. Much water has flown since. Advent of Buddhism, Islam and christianity has changed the culture of India. In fact SAARC is Akhand Bharat. When students are asked to draw the map of India during Ashoka's reign, it covers Afghanistan. In hitherto history Akhan Bharat was never ruled by one king. Let history be history. Any fear that Akhand Bharat is the agenda of Indians is nothing but a propaganda.
You are living a third class living standard as a muslim in india and are confused about your identity and yet here on online forums showing your loyalty to india.You look ready for ghar wapisi?
How can you be loyal to a so called hindu secular india which hates islam with passion and after gujrat and kashmir genocide they want to kill even more muslims? Dear pakistan was made for a purpose it was not just created overnight .Those who did not migrate are still paying the price.As a muslim you cannot buy or rent a home in any big indian city and yet you call yourself a proud indian.I salute your patriotism.Ramzan Mumbarak Bhai and to all PDF members!
I am an Indian so its obvious that I am loyal to my country. No one should have any doubt about it. In a virtual forum and being anonymous there is nothing to show off to anyone. Its just expressing my innerself. What makes you feel that I am confused about my identity??? I am a proud muslim, a proud Indian and a proud woman living happily with my small family.
I wish Allah subhan wa ta'ala blesses all during the month of Ramzan!!!
RAW, Mossad and NDS behind terrorism in Pakistan, say security agencies | Terminal XOn what basis are you claiming muslims are confused about their identity? Are there no incidents of sectarian violence in Pakistan?
@Razia Sultana - Ramzan Mubarak to you and your family as well.
Ramdhan Mubarak to you. You as a Indian Muslims should be proud of your country and should follow its laws and rules etc but sometime Muslims in India try to express unnecessary hatred for Pakistani Muslims to show their loyalty for India and to please Hinduvata nationalist . Primary identity of all Muslims should be Islam before anything else unless they put country above God and we can oppose a ruler or polices of a country if its against basic Islamic principles.. What you say as Indian Muslim? What you gonna do in scenario where your national interests conflict with Islam or Islamic principles? I personally consider my self Muslim before pakistani or british as Islam is against blind nationalismI am a proud muslim, a proud Indian and a proud woman living happily with my small family.
I wish Allah subhan wa ta'ala blesses all during the month of Ramzan!!!
What is your solution for those Muslims in India? what else they should do if not be loyal to India which is their home?How can you be loyal to a so called hindu secular india which hates islam with passion and after gujrat and kashmir genocide they want to kill even more muslims? Dear pakistan was made for a purpose it was not just created overnight .Those who did not migrate are still paying the price.As a muslim you cannot buy or rent a home in any big indian city and yet you call yourself a proud indian.I salute your patriotism.
Unfortunately there is no solution for poor indian muslims.They will be treated as third class citizens .But i retaliated because her posts are anti-pakistan as usual for showing her loyalty to hindu india. What i said to her was not a solution that was retaliation.Ramdhan Mubarak to you. You as a Indian Muslims should be proud of your country and should follow its laws and rules etc but sometime Muslims in India try to express unnecessary hatred for Pakistani Muslims to show their loyalty for India and to please Hinduvata nationalist . Primary identity of all Muslims should be Islam before anything else unless they put country above God and we can oppose a ruler or polices of a country if its against basic Islamic principles.. What you say as Indian Muslim? What you gonna do in scenario where your national interests conflict with Islam or Islamic principles? I personally consider my self Muslim before pakistani or british as Islam is against blind nationalism
What is your solution for those Muslims in India? what else they should do if not be loyal to India which is their home?
may be thats the only option left for them to hate us and get approval and patriotic certificate from fellow Hindu thekadaar of India If hating us or our country give them some peace then you dont take their hate on your heartUnfortunately there is no solution for poor indian muslims.They will be treated as third class citizens .But i retaliated because her posts are anti-pakistan as usual for showing her loyalty to hindu india. What i said to her was not a solution that was retaliation.
That,s right Also india would not be too bad for them if they really applied the concept of secularism there.But india is one big joke in the name of secularism. I believe we should be secular muslim majority state and there is nothing wrong with it,at least that will stop religion being misused by the terrorists. The problem with indian muslims is that they are muslims who are trapped inside a hindu india .They are indians but treated as a third class citizens in so called secular india. MA jinnah saw it coming but the ones who did not left india were fooled in the name of secularism and now they are paying the price.may be thats the only option left for them to hate us and get approval and patriotic certificate from fellow Hindu thekadaar of India If hating us or our country give them some peace then you dont take their hate on your heart
Thankyou. One should always be loyal to his motherland.Ramdhan Mubarak to you. You as a Indian Muslims should be proud of your country and should follow its laws and rules etc but sometime Muslims in India try to express unnecessary hatred for Pakistani Muslims to show their loyalty for India and to please Hinduvata nationalist . Primary identity of all Muslims should be Islam before anything else unless they put country above God and we can oppose a ruler or polices of a country if its against basic Islamic principles.. What you say as Indian Muslim? What you gonna do in scenario where your national interests conflict with Islam or Islamic principles? I personally consider my self Muslim before pakistani or british as Islam is against blind nationalism
What is your solution for those Muslims in India? what else they should do if not be loyal to India which is their home?
India is not a Hindu Republic but a Secular nation. An indian will always be pro-indian. Even those muslims who supported Jinnah and did not migrate to pakistan, dont regret their decision of staying back in India.Unfortunately there is no solution for poor indian muslims.They will be treated as third class citizens .But i retaliated because her posts are anti-pakistan as usual for showing her loyalty to hindu india. What i said to her was not a solution that was retaliation.
And what Pakistan has been teaching their kids in schools? Akhand Bharat is history. No Indian dreams of hoisting tricolor on Minar-e-Pakistan but kids in Pakistan are sold the dreams of ghazwa-e-hind and hoisting pakistani flag on lal qila.
Pakistan would have died of heart attack if her threats were as large as India's and her defence budget was as low as India's.