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ISPR vows to respond to terrorist surge.

no action will have consequences more dire than taking action... in my opinion
 
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More imp than any f16s or any other thing is the will and decisiveness to hit terrorists and indian targets in afghanistan... Once will is there, everything else will follow....but...we lack will/ firmness of intent in this regard


Agree with you. But i was just suggesting because it is the law of Qisas so we should take the revenge. Islamic shariah law also suggest that if someone do or support such act should be punish in the front of people .. Believe me if one of them will just hang over like that no incidents would took place..i got some news from bajaur agency that these groups came at night and they eat ,they bought things for themselves and also stay in people houses what does this mean??? Holding again what about this, i wasn't believing but it turn to real when a son of ESSA KHEL nation person was kidnapped and the assistant political agent need to help him but he said that you should give him 6 lakh rupees to those khawarij and they will release your son on such stupid arguments the ESSA KHEL nation roll against the APA of mohmand..but this incident was slightly ignore..

Artillery barrage is more than enough.



Acha g. I guess this khawarajul khabees had strong hold near mohmand border.first hit from that area..

no action will have consequences more dire than taking action... in my opinion


So what to do now?
 
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So what to do now?


you quotted sharia above... do u know that how prophet SAW went after the people who attacked and killed a muslim tribe, first hudaybia treaty was scrapped... followed by invasion of mecca... these people fled to roman empire (Syria saudia border) and were being sheltered by rome... prophet SAW arranged an expedition against sheltering tribe (war of mauta, rise of khalid bin waleed). ... but after that was unsuccessfull led full muslim force against romans (ghazwa tabbuk). a roman castle was attacked and culprits were brought back and put to sword......


blood of innocents have been spilled.... u have the example from your prophet.... now you tell me what we should do?
 
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i can understand the high emotions of our people, i also want our military to engage the terrorist hidden in Afghanistan but dont you think if we will engage terrorists in Afghanistan through our physical appearance in afghan territories , it will give a reason to india to engage territories in pakistan... on the other hand to please the Americans our govts have destroyed their relation with Afghan talibans, otherwise it was possible to engage the TTP through them in Afghanistan. so my point is ... engaged the command and control of TTP in Afghanistan in a manner that on international front our incompetent political leaders could handle it.

and by the way, it is really very sad that many innocent people died in the blast but this misery was aggravated by the poor handling of PPP govt .. in their almost 9 year long rule in sindh the fail to deliver anything even now they have called up military to handle the situation, no hospitals no infrastructure....... but trust me .. in next election people of sindh will vote them once again .. and this show will keep going and on
 
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you quotted sharia above... do u know that how prophet SAW went after the people who attacked and killed a muslim tribe, first hudaybia treaty was scrapped... followed by invasion of mecca... these people fled to roman empire (Syria saudia border) and were being sheltered by rome... prophet SAW arranged an expedition against sheltering tribe (war of mauta, rise of khalid bin waleed). ... but after that was unsuccessfull led full muslim force against romans (ghazwa tabbuk). a roman castle was attacked and culprits were brought back and put to sword......


blood of innocents have been spilled.... u have the example from your prophet.... now you tell me what we should do?
Just pray for now for those who passed away and are injured there will be a time to pay back.
 
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you quotted sharia above... do u know that how prophet SAW went after the people who attacked and killed a muslim tribe, first hudaybia treaty was scrapped... followed by invasion of mecca... these people fled to roman empire (Syria saudia border) and were being sheltered by rome... prophet SAW arranged an expedition against sheltering tribe (war of mauta, rise of khalid bin waleed). ... but after that was unsuccessfull led full muslim force against romans (ghazwa tabbuk). a roman castle was attacked and culprits were brought back and put to sword......


blood of innocents have been spilled.... u have the example from your prophet.... now you tell me what we should do?




I respect your words and i my self a student of shariah law there is no such words which i used as a violence or other but please remember principles of Islam . Quran sunnah ijma ijtihad qiyas.. On the basis of killing we have already quran law interpretation of qisas. If i my whole life live 600000thousand life live i can't just describe one word of quran the above i mentioned because it was killing of our people. I never never never said to kill the people of Afghanistan or woman whatever i just suggested that bring out these khawarij and kill them we got law of qisas on this base and i didnt said to kill their women or whatever..morever i also know that the suicide bombers are mostly teen ager and some of them are drugged so i just suggested to shoot out their roots... Thanks by the way sir.
 
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Absolutely


Hopefully this time response will be different and aggressive


‏لاشوں پہ لاشیں گریں ، نیند نا ٹوٹی تیری
حاکم وقت تیری مردہ ضمیری کو سلام....

یہ سارے سیاست دان بندر کے بچے صرف میڈیا پر صرف بندر ناچ دکھا سکتے تقریبا دس ہزار لوگوں نے ملک کو یرغمال بنایا ہوا ہے اللہ انکو تباہ وبرباد کر. جمہوریت کی ماں کی آنکھ .|.

اپنے نا ملے ہو تو آپ کے گھر ڈاکو کبھی ڈاکہ نہیں ڈال سکتا ۔
یعنی گھر میں کونسی چیز کدھر پڑی ہے کون کس وقت آتا ہے کس وقت جاتا ہے ۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
جب تک سہولت کاروں کو ختم نہیں کیا جاتا یہ سلسلہ چلتا رہےگا ۔
ایسے میں مجھے سلطان صلاح الدین ایوبی کا مشہور قول یاد آتا ہے کہ کافر ( دشمن ) سے پہلے غدار کو ختم کرو ۔
 
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you quotted sharia above... do u know that how prophet SAW went after the people who attacked and killed a muslim tribe, first hudaybia treaty was scrapped... followed by invasion of mecca... these people fled to roman empire (Syria saudia border) and were being sheltered by rome... prophet SAW arranged an expedition against sheltering tribe (war of mauta, rise of khalid bin waleed). ... but after that was unsuccessfull led full muslim force against romans (ghazwa tabbuk). a roman castle was attacked and culprits were brought back and put to sword......


blood of innocents have been spilled.... u have the example from your prophet.... now you tell me what we should do?
family members of Tareekhi Taliban Hind and Jamat of Swines deserve no sympathy. They should be taken away from their men and held aside without being harmed. Their men folk should be executed.
 
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i can understand the high emotions of our people, i also want our military to engage the terrorist hidden in Afghanistan but dont you think if we will engage terrorists in Afghanistan through our physical appearance in afghan territories , it will give a reason to india to engage territories in pakistan... on the other hand to please the Americans our govts have destroyed their relation with Afghan talibans, otherwise it was possible to engage the TTP through them in Afghanistan. so my point is ... engaged the command and control of TTP in Afghanistan in a manner that on international front our incompetent political leaders could handle it.

and by the way, it is really very sad that many innocent people died in the blast but this misery was aggravated by the poor handling of PPP govt .. in their almost 9 year long rule in sindh the fail to deliver anything even now they have called up military to handle the situation, no hospitals no infrastructure....... but trust me .. in next election people of sindh will vote them once again .. and this show will keep going and on




Agreed 100%
 
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i can understand the high emotions of our people, i also want our military to engage the terrorist hidden in Afghanistan but dont you think if we will engage terrorists in Afghanistan through our physical appearance in afghan territories , it will give a reason to india to engage territories in pakistan... on the other hand to please the Americans our govts have destroyed their relation with Afghan talibans, otherwise it was possible to engage the TTP through them in Afghanistan. so my point is ... engaged the command and control of TTP in Afghanistan in a manner that on international front our incompetent political leaders could handle it.

and by the way, it is really very sad that many innocent people died in the blast but this misery was aggravated by the poor handling of PPP govt .. in their almost 9 year long rule in sindh the fail to deliver anything even now they have called up military to handle the situation, no hospitals no infrastructure....... but trust me .. in next election people of sindh will vote them once again .. and this show will keep going and on
indians don't have the guts to engage anything in Pakistan. all they can do is create fake sir jee jal tabloid drama and nothing more.

Further more, the freedom fighters of kashmir have a morally high ground to fight for their freedom from indian occupation just as the afghan taliban have a morally high ground to fight for their freedom from american occupation. the ttp on the other hand are just commiting terrorism as hired goons.
 
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What do you think we should do bro ? I mean 100+ deaths in 7-8 Different Attack within a week ? Army is saying that the planners are sitting in Afghanistan so lets assume they got some Intel , what else is there not to ACT ? Think Pakistan as your HOME, if someone from Outside comes into your house and killed 7 out 20 Family members , and than you know where the criminals are , what will you do ? what will anyone of us will do ? Tweet , Release Statements or ACT aggressive to take a Revenge .. ?
my Anger may not letting me see another option that is why i ask you, what do you think can be a Alternative yet equally Hard way to give these Terrorist a Message ?

I'd start with sealing the Afghan border.
Deploy army assets in every city and town, recruit more men if needed.
Suspects should be outright tortured, the Geneva convention does not apply to them.
Improve the intelligence apparatus i.e. mobile phone intercepts, hack into computers etc.
Assassination squads should be in full swing. Other states use them with great effect, with some finishing off an insurgency through the killing of leaders.
 
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I'd start with sealing the Afghan border.
Deploy army assets in every city and town, recruit more men if needed.
Suspects should be outright tortured, the Geneva convention does not apply to them.
Improve the intelligence apparatus i.e. mobile phone intercepts, hack into computers etc.
Assassination squads should be in full swing. Other states use them with great effect, with some finishing off an insurgency through the killing of leaders.
So for how long will you do this? this more or less looks like trump idea. Walls dont stop ppl,certainly not the religious ones.

Pakistan needs statesmen who think generations ahead not fall for illusory short term gains.
Peace in pakistan lies in stability of afghanistan, thats what pakistan should work towards. Peace in afghanistan will drain away the refugees from pakistan. A strong afghanistan will act against terrorists and combined action will leave terrorist to go now where.
But instead we see the opposite , radical groups still roam in pakistan and taliban runs riot in afghanistan. End result is choas,anarchy and pain.
 
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indians don't have the guts to engage anything in Pakistan. all they can do is create fake sir jee jal tabloid drama and nothing more.

Further more, the freedom fighters of kashmir have a morally high ground to fight for their freedom from indian occupation just as the afghan taliban have a morally high ground to fight for their freedom from american occupation. the ttp on the other hand are just commiting terrorism as hired goons.
this is our perception but world has a different opinion, and there is no harm to engage the enemy militarily as well as politically for that purpose govt should first deploy the team of good foreign affair experts .. but what an irony we dont have any foreign minster yet... so what case we will present to world ? our case is solid but have no quality voice to present it infront of world
 
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this is our perception but world has a different opinion, and there is no harm to engage the enemy militarily as well as politically for that purpose govt should first deploy the team of good foreign affair experts .. but what an irony we dont have any foreign minster yet... so what case we will present to world ? our case is solid but have no quality voice to present it infront of world
We would be wise to not consider the world's perceptions as facts and consider that ground realities as facts. After all, at the end of the day, facts stand alone and tall because they are not dependent on anyone's perceptions, be they global or otherwise. And the facts on the ground dictate that the sons of any soil have the God given right to fight for their fatherland's freedom and protection from any foreign occupation be it american or indian or martian. no international perception can ever change that.
 
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Very soon chinese will b targetted.... this is a ploy ti hide the real intentions
 
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