Islamic terrorist or Indian trained & owned terrorist: Ajmal Kasab

[Albatross]

• Oberoi Trident at Nariman Point;
• TAJ MAHAl Palace & Tower
• Leopold Cafe
• Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus (CST) railway station
• St. Xavier's College
• Cama and Albless Hospital
• Nariman House (Chabad House)
• Metro Cinema
• Badruddin Tayabji Lane behind the Times of India building

Its very encouraging to see some of my friends across the border also thinking logically .Here is another thing to ponder as well. Above is a list of attacked sites during the 4 days mumbai attacks by 10 men high on cocaine and LSD's as per Indian official investigations.

All except one are proper places like hotels, restaurants , residential complex or a train station all are crowded place where such men with weapons and hand on triggers can get plenty preys but it doesn't satisfy logic that then 1-2 of them just stood calmly behind a tree on a back lane waiting for a particular private car with one police station right there a few yards away right in front of their eyes. Such audacity and precision can only be achieved when you know your target very well why were they not firing at other moving vehicles on road as no other such incident has been reported during all those 3-4 day

It cant be done by foreigners on a killing spree . It was an inside job .
@Czar786

 

[Dubious]

Thank you for attempting to answer my question!

Dear Talon,

The following reasons could be there for him calling out Bhagwaan instead of Allah:
1. He was brainwashed soo much by their mentors that India is a Hindu country that when we was finally caught he would have not dared to call out Allah so bubba can do his magic

That is beyond ridiculous! Apparently anything sounds ok to Indians? Then he for sure was not trained by some extremists...They believe that whatever the case, you should remain as a Muslim...

2. When the police guys would be putting him in remand a lot of hindu police wala's would be 'dandaing' him and saying to him "bhagwaan se toh dar" so the aftereffect (this is a pure guess)

Even if someone catches me at gun point my 1st and only savior would be ALLAH and I am not even an extremist!

3. He must have thought that bringing out Bhagwaan name will save them from evil yindoos

This could be the only valid point though not sure why everyone is ruling out the point that maybe just maybe he was a hindu! which should be the 1st point in a balanced opinion!

If I was a terrorist in Pakistan and caught, I would say "Allah ke liye maaf kar do", cozz I would know ki Bhagwaan ka naam liya to Pakistani bubba will do his magic on me.

I see where your assumptions are coming....That would be an Indian's reaction...to go with the country you are caught in...makes the guy more Indian than a "trained Pakistani terrorist"

The fact is very simple and since your media has confirmed that he is indeed a Pakistani and his village was cordoned off is proof enough for one to believe that Kasab was a Pakistani and possibly trained in Pakistan/Afghanistan. I am not sure who trained him, it could be IM as well, however the topic here is Ajmal was a Pakistani or not and the evidences suggest that he was a Pakistani. If Ajmal is not Pakistani, then Osama was never found in Attotabad and Osama is actually an Indian hiding in Sri Lanka.

1 simple wuld be Bhagwan = Hindu not Bhagwan = Pakistani Muslim
2 our media agrees to anything thrown at them...They are always the first to agree and throw in a news...But the same article said over and over no solid proof...
3 Believe is not the same as reality!
4 mo proof was presented! It just jumped to believe!

The last line in bold shows your thinking which is it has to be this or nothing else! No space for the obvious Bhagwan = Hindu

Thank you!

 

[karan.1970]

Wondering, when Allama Iqbal can talk about lord Rama (of Ram Janm Bhoomi fame), and call him Imam-e-Hind, then using the term Bhagwan should not automatically disqualify Ajmal Kasab (a proven resident of Pakistan, and so admitted by GoP), from being a Muslim

Labreiz Hai Sharaabe haqeeqat se Jaame hind.
Sab falsafi Hain Khitai Maghrib ke Raame Hind .
Hai Raam Ke wajood Pe Hindostaan ko Naaz,
Ahle Nazar Samjhatein hain Unko Imaame Hind.

A rough translation-
The cup of India is full to its brim with the wine of truth.
The thinkers of west actually reflect the philosophy of Rama.
India is proud that Rama existed, thinkers and philosophers consider Rama the religious leader of entire India.

 

[kingdurgaking]

Thank you for attempting to answer my question!

That is beyond ridiculous! Apparently anything sounds ok to Indians? Then he for sure was not trained by some extremists...They believe that whatever the case, you should remain as a Muslim...
Even if someone catches me at gun point my 1st and only savior would be ALLAH and I am not even an extremist!
This could be the only valid point though not sure why everyone is ruling out the point that maybe just maybe he was a hindu! which should be the 1st point in a balanced opinion!
I see where your assumptions are coming....That would be an Indian's reaction...to go with the country you are caught in...makes the guy more Indian than a "trained Pakistani terrorist"

1 simple wuld be Bhagwan = Hindu not Bhagwan = Pakistani Muslim
2 our media agrees to anything thrown at them...They are always the first to agree and throw in a news...But the same article said over and over no solid proof...
3 Believe is not the same as reality!
4 mo proof was presented! It just jumped to believe!

The last line in bold shows your thinking which is it has to be this or nothing else! No space for the obvious Bhagwan = Hindu

Thank you!

If you simply consider the word Bhagwan or accent and saffron band in his hand you guys must be seriously intelligent... You know apart from Indians many Americans, and Israeli did die.. Do you know the international community did what? For your information every one started there own investigation and have done all the analysis part. Do you know what is the outcome of the investigation?? All the investigation from across all the countries whose citizen have died has pointed their finger to Pakistan..

So you can say the whole world is wrong and Pakistan is right? Check your politicians dignity nowadays.. Many country openly criticize them in public especially the former Afghan intelligence officer.. He is making mockery of your country establishment so badly in all news channels openly.. And no one from Pakistan politicians or military establishments are able to counter him... why?? why silence??.. Which means what?? If you have some wound it pains ..

Try to accept the fact... if you live in denial or deception you are the looser not we ...

 

[Dubious]

If you simply consider the word Bhagwan or accent and saffron band in his hand you guys must be seriously intelligent... You know apart from Indians many Americans, and Israeli did die.. Do you know the international community did what? For your information every one started there own investigation and have done all the analysis part. Do you know what is the outcome of the investigation?? All the investigation from across all the countries whose citizen have died has pointed their finger to Pakistan..

None have ever been too fond of us so why not jump in the blame bandwagon? My question was only about the Bhagwan bit...When one sees himself in trouble does he or does he not call upon his savior? What did this guy do?

So you can say the whole world is wrong and Pakistan is right? Check your politicians dignity nowadays.. Many country openly criticize them in public especially the former Afghan intelligence officer.. He is making mockery of your country establishment so badly in all news channels openly.. And no one from Pakistan politicians or military establishments are able to counter him... why?? why silence??.. Which means what?? If you have some wound it pains ..

Why the silence? We dont really care what all of you guys do....It really is another's problem to talk crap in public! Esp when we have enough problems at hand...Why on earth do should we care which side of our border is barking and who feels the need to throw their comments at us uninvited?

Try to accept the fact... if you live in denial or deception you are the looser not we ...

Then provide me proof instead of getting personal!

 

[kingdurgaking]

None have ever been too fond of us so why not jump in the blame bandwagon? My question was only about the Bhagwan bit...When one sees himself in trouble does he or does he not call upon his savior? What did this guy do?
Why the silence? We dont really care what all of you guys do....It really is another's problem to talk crap in public! Esp when we have enough problems at hand...Why on earth do should we care which side of our border is barking and who feels the need to throw their comments at us uninvited?

Then provide me proof instead of getting personal!

Ok why every one needs to blame Pakistan? are they obsessed with it? Dont you feel bad when some is making mockery of your nation? .. If so it is bad.. i have seen you people becoming bad or sad only when you loose to India in world cup matches.. rest of the time dont care attitude..

If you want proof ... i have one idea to help you out.. File a case against Geo TV for misleading your nation and you will get your answer.. For you rest of the proof will not suffice because for Pakistanis "World is obsessed with Pakistan" no proof will suffice you guys.. International or Indians or even Pakistan

 

[Rank]

He is the one and only so called MUSLIM TERRORIST from past Thousands of years who dont even know the meaning of JEHAD and talk about BAGWAN rather than Allah kamaal hogay hey idar Chutyee Indians bhaetay hain jinsay reality dekhi nahe jati bas Video daek kar phati hey tu NO NO karna hsuruu kardetay hain AS USUAL ***** indians of PDF hahahhah nothing new....

 

[Foo_Fighter]

Thank you for attempting to answer my question!

That is beyond ridiculous! Apparently anything sounds ok to Indians? Then he for sure was not trained by some extremists...They believe that whatever the case, you should remain as a Muslim...
Even if someone catches me at gun point my 1st and only savior would be ALLAH and I am not even an extremist!
This could be the only valid point though not sure why everyone is ruling out the point that maybe just maybe he was a hindu! which should be the 1st point in a balanced opinion!
I see where your assumptions are coming....That would be an Indian's reaction...to go with the country you are caught in...makes the guy more Indian than a "trained Pakistani terrorist"

1 simple wuld be Bhagwan = Hindu not Bhagwan = Pakistani Muslim
2 our media agrees to anything thrown at them...They are always the first to agree and throw in a news...But the same article said over and over no solid proof...
3 Believe is not the same as reality!
4 mo proof was presented! It just jumped to believe!

The last line in bold shows your thinking which is it has to be this or nothing else! No space for the obvious Bhagwan = Hindu

Thank you!

Well I don't wanna get into the discussion of why Pakistanis identify themselves as Indians in US after 26/11, but yes I welcome some of your points such as the media throwing garbage, I completely agree this... but media is not a traitor of Pakistan... they wouldn't stoop down to this level.

 

[Dubious]

Ok why every one needs to blame Pakistan? are they obsessed with it?

You tell me

1) America has always given proposals on how to get into the nation....not sure what that is called
2)Israel's ego is still bruised from not being recognized
3) Many Indians still think Pakistan should not be made and the list continues...

Nothing to do with the topic at hand though!

Dont you feel bad when some is making mockery of your nation?

Why should I feel bad when the people mocking rarely have been to the country! When the people chatting the crap just watch media which are paid for the "best" story be it true or not that is up to the reader to decide and pass on!

.. If so it is bad.. i have seen you people becoming bad or sad only when you loose to India in world cup matches.. rest of the time dont care attitude..

How is this relevant to the topic at hand? Or are you just trying to get a few thanks?

If you want proof ... i have one idea to help you out.. File a case against Geo TV for misleading your nation and you will get your answer.. For you rest of the proof will not suffice because for Pakistanis "World is obsessed with Pakistan" no proof will suffice you guys.. International or Indians or even Pakistan

When the president at that time clearly said he was not provided any proof....whatelse can be said...

Geotv has also shown rubbish many a time...But how again is that relevant?

As for Indians they have failed to pick the most important point...In the mind of the said "terrorist" he was doing it for Islam...Then where did his Islam go when caught? I have seen Mullahs being caught and they yell rubbish from ALLAH is witness to You all are kafits and ALLAH will avenge or something along those lines!

While Hindus when it trouble seek their Bhagwan...How is this not logical?

This guy didnt even relate to ALLAH...

That alone was my question...nothing your book of interrogation provided!

Please dont quote me to get a ticket to derailing ....stick to the topic and quote me when you find the answers!

 

[Parul]

We are admitting from the 1st page of this thread that Ajmal Kasab aka Amar Singh is Hindu, Nationality - Indian. 26/11 was stage to malign the name of Pakistan.

My Lord - ab toh case close kar do...

 

[Dubious]

Well I don't wanna get into the discussion of why Pakistanis identify themselves as Indians in US after 26/11, but yes I welcome some of your points such as the media throwing garbage, I completely agree this... but media is not a traitor of Pakistan... they wouldn't stoop down to this level.

1) I have no idea why Pakistanis would denounce themselves...It could be for security purposes maybe....Everyone has a right to be secure esp when everyother person suffers from Islamophobia....
But after 26/11 happened in India so why the heck would anyone do that in US? Please provide proof of such sayings!

2) Have you watched Pakistani media? Every channel will be giving their assumptions rather than facts...It is all messed up esp when it comes to terrorists....it is just like in US where any alert points to Islam...while a white doing the same thing is just called psycho and sent to psych ward! And yea, Geonews giving Bharat as reference was giving its reports! Bharat could have said he lived in the back ally and Geonews would have said that...

We are admitting from the 1st page of this thread that Ajmal Kasab aka Amar Singh is Hindu, Nationality - Indian. 26/11 was stage to malign the name of Pakistan.

My Lord - ab toh case close kar do...

Are we?

Nothing new to see here, same old retarded conspiracy theories. He is a dark skinned hindu whose real name in Amar Singh.

tl;dr: Zaid HAmid.

Oh Pakistani Propaganda is here...

I rarely doubt confession statements are put into internet....!! Perhaps someone need to show this to Kasab parents, who identified their son. Cheap propaganda.!

he is one of the first victims of Indian cultural invasion, he probably watched too much chota bheem

Which one is in par with your thoughts?

 

[Dubious]

Aur Kidya, Ki hal chal hai?

I & majority of Indian members have admitted it.

This one is at par:

Wasnt sure if that was sarcasm...same guy came over and said the opposite!

This one is also at par:

This is saying rather the opposite...Plus geonews's reference was Mumbai news...Bharat kay janay say...everything was from India

This one is at par:

Prob the only one!

 

[Abingdonboy]

Worth a watch:

These are British (so objective) journalists who travelled to Pak Punjab and met the families of the 26/11 scumbags. They are quite scathing of the Mumbai Police and Tatas so aren't pro-India before you say anything. I'd recommend all Pakistanis to watch this in FULL before pulling out any more conspiracy nonsense.

 

[Vinod2070]

Worth a watch:

These are British (so objective) journalists who travelled to Pak Punjab and met the families of the 26/11 scumbags. They are quite scathing of the Mumbai Police and Tatas so aren't pro-India before you say anything. I'd recommend all Pakistanis to watch this in FULL before pulling out any more conspiracy nonsense.

It is amazing that these people can still be in denial. Though not unusual as even 9/11 is a conspiracy for so many of them.

Sir, mujhe mera gunah kabool hai (I plead guilty to my crime). We had been coached in Hindi by an Indian trainer in Azad Kashmir. His name is Abu Jundal. I killed people at CST. I was firing and Abu (Ismail) was hurling hand grenades. I fired at a policeman after which there was no firing from the police side. In the Cama Hospital lane, we saw a car with a red light. When the occupants inside (ATS chief Hemant Karkare, Ashok Kamte, Vijay Salaskar and Arun Jadhav) started firing, Abu got mad and fired several bullets at them t I didn’t kill constable Ombale at Chowpatty
t Please finish this trial at the earliest and mete out my punishment.

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Wonder why such small things as his peaking in "Hindi" should be such a big issue. All Pakistanis watch our movies and already use "Hindi words" that make many of them go bananas.

Learning a few additional words would the least of the issue.

 

[Foo_Fighter]

1) I have no idea why Pakistanis would denounce themselves...It could be for security purposes maybe....Everyone has a right to be secure esp when everyother person suffers from Islamophobia....
But after 26/11 happened in India so why the heck would anyone do that in US? Please provide proof of such sayings!

2) Have you watched Pakistani media? Every channel will be giving their assumptions rather than facts...It is all messed up esp when it comes to terrorists....it is just like in US where any alert points to Islam...while a white doing the same thing is just called psycho and sent to psych ward! And yea, Geonews giving Bharat as reference was giving its reports! Bharat could have said he lived in the back ally and Geonews would have said that...

Sorry I mean 9/11 instead of 26/11. And my dear that's the reason why people when they are scared they do as the people who are scaring them prefer them to do. I hope you understood my correlation.

Ok which are the good national media (there must be 1 atleast)?