Islamic State: What do young British Muslims think about the Caliphate? BBC News

[Jaanbaz]

 

[rockstar08]

those who fed them , dont even like them either now

 

[EasyNow]

those who fed them , dont even like them either now

'they' are us bro. This is the problem, we look at ISIS, Taliban etc and say they are on someone's payroll, they are the product of someone else's scheme. But the truth is these are everyday Muslims now. Many people who I meet daily sympathise with ttp, ISIS - you think they were created too?

Too many British young Muslims don't understand jacks##t about anything but have an issue against the rest of the world.

Just like the 2 mullah boys here, they're flipping and flopping trying to support ISIS but also not support it. Confused jahils everywhere man.

At least seculars / liberals are honest. When we like something we take ownership.

 

[Dubious]

But the truth is these are everyday Muslims now. Many people who I meet daily sympathise with ttp, ISIS - you think they were created too?

Yes they were...Coz many of the people I meet say that is not even what Islam teaches guess what those people who said that are not even Muslims so I sympathize with those who call themselves Muslims and dont know what Islam teaches!

And I am not sure if you read your own papers...was in London on 20th and while using the tube I read the papers all talking about how British Muslims - even parents of those whose kids are in ISIL rejecting what this was!

If you still think it is part of Islam or even part of being Muslim than that is really sad!

Coz even Non Muslims can trace it out that what these idiots are doing is far from any Islam they have heard off!

Maybe my circle includes educated Muslims and NON Muslims alike not Jahils!

Not 1 thing that ISIL did was or is Part of Islam infact it is 100% part of the twisted meaning of Islam that was shown to the world post 9/11.....The part on which documentaries and books were written and were sold! Yes that screwed up meaning of a religion to suit sales and someone's pockets!

 

[liontk]

Yes they were...Coz many of the people I meet say that is not even what Islam teaches guess what those people who said that are not even Muslims so I sympathize with those who call themselves Muslims and dont know what Islam teaches!

And I am not sure if you read your own papers...was in London on 20th and while using the tube I read the papers all talking about how British Muslims - even parents of those whose kids are in ISIL rejecting what this was!

If you still think it is part of Islam or even part of being Muslim than that is really sad!

Coz even Non Muslims can trace it out that what these idiots are doing is far from any Islam they have heard off!

Maybe my circle includes educated Muslims and NON Muslims alike not Jahils!

Not 1 thing that ISIL did was or is Part of Islam infact it is 100% part of the twisted meaning of Islam that was shown to the world post 9/11.....The part on which documentaries and books were written and were sold! Yes that screwed up meaning of a religion to suit sales and someone's pockets!

Perception is reality and we as a muslim community have failed to educate our youth properly and this is a mistake on our part. Its easy to disassociate but difficult to try and fixing this very problem. Its sometimes sad to think that lance corporal jabron(may Allah bless his soul) of royal marines died for the very same country that some of his compatriot's hate. Its ironic but a sad reality that wahabi ideology has gained traction and it is something we can no longer close our eyes to. In fact in Canada we have youth especially from Calgary numbering almost 100 by some sources that have left for ISIS.

ISIS 'betraying' Muslims, says Calgary imam before hunger strike - Calgary - CBC News
Instead of simply rejecting, we have to try and fix the problem like Imam Soharwardy for his action to promote a positive image for our community. Remember "PERCEPTION IS REALITY" and a sad one indeed.

 

[Dubious]

Perception is reality and we as a muslim community have failed to educate our youth properly and this is a mistake on our part. Its easy to disassociate but difficult to try and fixing this very problem. Its sometimes sad to think that lance corporal jabron(may Allah bless his soul) of royal marines died for the very same country that some of his compatriot's hate. Its ironic but a sad reality that wahabi ideology has gained traction and it is something we can no longer close our eyes to. In fact in Canada we have youth especially from Calgary numbering almost 100 by some sources that have left for ISIS.

Well not all fingers are equal and not all youth are brainwashed....Hence claiming at such is doing injustice to the ones who are not!

That is sad that almost a 100 went astray...

It is sadder that in 1 breath you blame it on the community and then in the oher you blame it on Wahabi ideology...

Honestly speaking for those who left for ISIL probably were told they were helping Islam but it is sad that once there they couldnt differentiate as this was nothing related to Islam or were they forced to stay? Whatever the reason I feel sorry for them and their souls which were sold to the devil purely coz they didnt have knowledge about what they are doing....

Instead of simply dissociating we have to commend muslims like Imam Soharwardy for his action to promote a positive image for our community. Remember "PERCEPTION IS REALITY" and a sad one inde

We need to dissociate with this stuff and raise awareness that this is not Islam and stop eating the bait left by others! Maybe by raising this awareness many will finally wake up and realize this is BS and not Islam...

Why should we accept the wrongs of others? ALLAH will never ask us to justify others but will definitely ask us what we did with our time....

As for condemning a unity of scholars already have I think @Aeronaut opened the thread when the 1st set of images came to the web of people being brutally beheaded by these people....and were condemned again when this Jihad sex BS came on the web!

While some scholars are ONLY now opening their mouths when that American journalist case came up! Seriously were the thousands in Iraq's lives not worth that of that 1 journalist? That is rather shameful to only codemn when America starts crying like those thousands were not even human!

 

[Contrarian]

Nice video.
If we break down the participants into the sects, an interesting picture emerges of the differing perceptions.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Nice video.
If we break down the participants into the sects, an interesting picture emerges of the differing perceptions.

Notice the Saif Ul Islam Gentleman. He is from the same group as Muslim Sharia patrol and a friend of Mr Anjem Choudhry. So definitely a clear picture emerges who are supporting groups like IS.

those who fed them , dont even like them either now

If you come to UK I will personally take you to some mosques in UK that preach the same things as ISIS. Their heroes are Osama Bin Laden and their worst enemy are anyone who don't agree with their version of Islam.

 

[Jungibaaz]

Idiots. Why does no-one ever consult me or bring me on to one of these panels? I'd tear shit up, especially with that first guy.

If you come to UK I will personally take you to some mosques in UK that preach the same things as ISIS. Their heroes are Osama Bin Laden and their worst enemy are anyone who don't agree with their version of Islam.

Yup, I've seen one myself, I reported it to the authorities.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Idiots. Why does no-one ever consult me or bring me on to one of these panels? I'd tear shit up, especially with that first guy

All the media outlets have Anejm Choudhry and his gang's mobile numbers.

 

[Jungibaaz]

All the media outlets have Anejm Choudhry and his gang's mobile numbers.

I'd pay my weight in fake gold to give that guy a punch. I seriously support any calls for him to be tried, imprisoned for inciting terrorism via an extremist agenda.

 

[Jaanbaz]

I'd pay my weight in fake gold to give that guy a punch. I seriously support any calls for him to be tried, imprisoned for inciting terrorism via an extremist agenda.

Well BBC at least made the effort to bring other contributors too. I really like the Sunni guy with shirt he was talking sense.

 

[Butchcassidy]

Its nothing but a lot of bored western muslim youth seeking thrill. Its like the spanish civil war of our times

 

[livingdead]

both the sharia dudes (wearing white) are definitely bangladeshi ..

 

[Informant]

Look at these idiots. Jesus.

@waz what are your countrymen dreaming of?